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No luteal swelling

#11

Good day everyone!
It's day 15 of my November cycle. I keep doing massage whenever I can. Light, moderate massage in circular motion for minimum of 10 minutes. The purpose is to make your skin absorb the batter oil and increase blood supply to your breasts and make them sensitive to your hormones. Do not massage roughly, it will just hurt your breasts' tissues. If you think it's difficult to massage longer than 1O minutes, do the massage while reading something, and it will kill your time before you even knew it Big Grin I usually do it while browsing the net with my phone Tongue

My breasts seem fuller, my old 32B bra feels quite tight on the left side. Yes, my breasts size are uneven. That's why I keep massaging the right breast. My left breast responded well even though lacking of massage there. And that's the very reason why I focus on topical massage only at my right side.

My topical oil massage is an infusion of olive oil with small amount of PM (considering how potent it is and our skin absorption is 10 times stronger than our stomach) and cinnamon powder. Since I'm Asian, I believe the cinnamon is not real cinnamon like in the U.S, it is Cinnamon burmannii. For those who live in Europe or U.S can just use any cinnamon you got in your country. it's meant for blood circulation.

Breasts are still tender. I'm being cautios with PM intake. Remember not to stall, and DO NOT reach maximum potential of your luteal swelling. Fennels, fenugreeks, asparagus, are good to take during luteal to avoid bloating or water retention. Plus, they are mildly estrogenic, and increase progesterone and prolactin level too. Which means they are very likely to actually mimick your natural hormones level during luteal phase.

I'm going to report again if there is anything needed to be shared here. So, Good Luck to me with my program and everyone who does NBE~

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#12

I just feel I need to write this as a bookmark for my future reference. I'm just too lazy to write in a book Tongue
I'm not taking PM last night, just massage. I think it's becoming easier for my boob to absorb batter oil. Usually I just pour some oil (if you are not sure how much, just use 5-7 drops of oil. Too much oil will just acts like a barrier againts skin and your skin can't take much so it's useless) and apply it on my breast. Massage inwards, starts with big circle and then smaller and smaller towards the areola. Just follow your breast shape.

I wake up at 4 a.m in the morning, and my breast is throbbing (again!) like a muscle pain deep underneath the nipple. It's not really throbbing but more like pounding. Not sure what will happen this time. I just pray that the muscle pain indicates that your breast tissues are expanding and growing Big Grin (wishful thinking!! I know xD)

And I found this big-tts Japanese girl named Momoka Nishina. Woww she's large and natural and young! No wonder she became a porn actress at young age Big Grin she's like a J cup, just like Chiyomilk. I wonder why Japanese are so busty Huh

To those who wanted to try or follow my program, don't forget to drink milk 3 and 1/2 cups a day, equivalent to 1100mg calcium . If you don't want to grow breasts, you still need 1100mg of calcium everyday! We might need more calcium than that to grow boobs.

since I've been massaging regularly or religiously, I wonder if it's ok to reduce internal herb because breasts are already sensitive, even to a small amount of hormone. I must say my right breast is filling in at the right side after all the pain I went through during period. It's fuller than I have ever been in my life Shy Thank God.

I have ovulated on day 13 or 14. Right now I'm waiting for my progesterone level to elevate (basing on my discharge) to continue with asparagus racemosus. I'll be going on a vacation with my family so I won't be massaging for a while. I bet my breasts will be missing my tender touch! Lol.

Happy boobie growing and bust of luck Big Grin ~
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#13

I visited Chiyomilk's blog to know how much she grew in the past. It took her a year to grow 2-3 cups. Now I'm thinking on how to speed up my growth. I guess everybody knows rule #1 is not to stall. but I am not sure how to avoid stalling. I think we must lower the dosage, detox@cleanse after 3 months and massage everyday. Instead of detoxing every 3 months, I think I will detox everytime I have my period. I will just take the detox tablet and one of the ingredients in the formula is Turmeric. Turmeric is good to take during period as it helps to expel period blood and eliminates body odour. One more thing is, it makes your body more sensitive to estrogen (talking from my own experience) and I will also massage during period.

Therefore, I'm not taking anything estrogenic during menstruation. If I take supplement, it will defeat my purpose of detoxification.

Today is Day 17. I expect my period to comes 12 or 13 days after this. Last month the cycle is longer and ovulation is on day 16 (don't know why period is late Huh). According to this site
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Vegan_breast_enlargement growth occurs when period is delayed. I don't think so. I agree with Wahaika, real growth takes place during follicular phase. Usually what we have during luteal is just swelling that goes away with menses. or maybe it does happen but to some people.

My breasts are still sore and itch! I mean it's so itchy that I want to scratch like crazy Angry so I scrub them everyday in the shower. In the past, it's the cinnamon that made me itchy and I thought I was growing Big Grin . Next time I will pour the oil carefully not to pour down the cinnamon powder too. and I think the new tissues have settled and blend in because my right breast is not painful and super duper sensitive to touch anymore. It feels like a breast not an alien that doesn't want to be touched Big Grin

Maybe I will start taking asparagus racemosus today in small dose. just 250 to 500 mg and ramping up to 750-1000mg until my period comes.

Now I'm starting to be positive about NBE Wink

Bust of luck y'all ~
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#14

(04-12-2012, 03:09 AM)aveh Wrote:  I visited Chiyomilk's blog to know how much she grew in the past. It took her a year to grow 2-3 cups. Now I'm thinking on how to speed up my growth. I guess everybody knows rule #1 is not to stall. but I am not sure how to avoid stalling. I think we must lower the dosage, detox@cleanse after 3 months and massage everyday. Instead of detoxing every 3 months, I think I will detox everytime I have my period. I will just take the detox tablet and one of the ingredients in the formula is Turmeric. Turmeric is good to take during period as it helps to expel period blood and eliminates body odour. One more thing is, it makes your body more sensitive to estrogen (talking from my own experience) and I will also massage during period.

Therefore, I'm not taking anything estrogenic during menstruation. If I take supplement, it will defeat my purpose of detoxification.

Today is Day 17. I expect my period to comes 12 or 13 days after this. Last month the cycle is longer and ovulation is on day 16 (don't know why period is late Huh). According to this site
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Vegan_breast_enlargement growth occurs when period is delayed. I don't think so. I agree with Wahaika, real growth takes place during follicular phase. Usually what we have during luteal is just swelling that goes away with menses. or maybe it does happen but to some people.

My breasts are still sore and itch! I mean it's so itchy that I want to scratch like crazy Angry so I scrub them everyday in the shower. In the past, it's the cinnamon that made me itchy and I thought I was growing Big Grin . Next time I will pour the oil carefully not to pour down the cinnamon powder too. and I think the new tissues have settled and blend in because my right breast is not painful and super duper sensitive to touch anymore. It feels like a breast not an alien that doesn't want to be touched Big Grin

Maybe I will start taking asparagus racemosus today in small dose. just 250 to 500 mg and ramping up to 750-1000mg until my period comes.

Now I'm starting to be positive about NBE Wink

Bust of luck y'all ~

awesome thing about Turmeric. I read it acts somewhat like a progestin. I also read women with PCO's have reversed their condition with the use of Turmeric. So You are def onto something.

Also, I read there are two times a women can get growth during her cycle, one is around the 11 day of follicular phase and the other is sometime during luteal.

Speaking from experience, I have only grown during luteal and I think it is due to my higher temps. Those who have nice temps during foll. phase probably be more likely to get growth that time.
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(04-12-2012, 03:33 AM)tibetan113 Wrote:  awesome thing about Turmeric. I read it acts somewhat like a progestin. I also read women with PCO's have reversed their condition with the use of Turmeric. So You are def onto something.

Also, I read there are two times a women can get growth during her cycle, one is around the 11 day of follicular phase and the other is sometime during luteal.

Speaking from experience, I have only grown during luteal and I think it is due to my higher temps. Those who have nice temps during foll. phase probably be more likely to get growth that time.

Hello tibetan113,
I'm not sure about Turmeric being a progestin but I'm sure it is anti-progesterone. I thought it was going to make me produce more progesterone but it stops my progesterone production instead. no wonder it is one of the abortifacients.

congratulations on your growth! Smile do you experience any pain while growing? speaking of temperature, how high is "high"? I know we are supposed to have lower temp. during period, and higher during luteal phase. what does it means to have high temperature during period? I once had a high temperature during period, and I got a fever for the first 2 days of my period. I know something went wrong but I don't know what it is Huh
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#16

I know I shouldn't be updating everytime. So I'm going to edit this post later with my progress.

Day 17 of November cycle
-I think deep pain@muscle pain is back (right breast)
- sore and tingles (left breast)
I don't know if massaging can be "excessive" that it hurts breasts' tissues?
- take 500gm shatavari@asparagus racemosus with milk.


Day 18 of November cycle
-deep, muscle pain is really back. positive
when I thought my right breast is slowly growing, my left breast surpassed my right, so the difference became quite visible again. It makes me wanted to massage more and more Sad like every 2,3 hours if possible. I really wanted my right breast to catch up with the left, so they can grow big together Big Grin
-last cycle I didn't massage during luteal, but this cycle I keep massaging because I believe I'm in the "growing phase". I kind of believe massage speeds up growth Tongue
-take 500mg shatavari with milk in the morning with empty stomach.

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#17

(04-12-2012, 10:07 AM)aveh Wrote:  
(04-12-2012, 03:33 AM)tibetan113 Wrote:  awesome thing about Turmeric. I read it acts somewhat like a progestin. I also read women with PCO's have reversed their condition with the use of Turmeric. So You are def onto something.

Also, I read there are two times a women can get growth during her cycle, one is around the 11 day of follicular phase and the other is sometime during luteal.

Speaking from experience, I have only grown during luteal and I think it is due to my higher temps. Those who have nice temps during foll. phase probably be more likely to get growth that time.

Hello tibetan113,
I'm not sure about Turmeric being a progestin but I'm sure it is anti-progesterone. I thought it was going to make me produce more progesterone but it stops my progesterone production instead. no wonder it is one of the abortifacients.

congratulations on your growth! Smile do you experience any pain while growing? speaking of temperature, how high is "high"? I know we are supposed to have lower temp. during period, and higher during luteal phase. what does it means to have high temperature during period? I once had a high temperature during period, and I got a fever for the first 2 days of my period. I know something went wrong but I don't know what it is Huh

WOW,
Turmeric is indeed a mystery. Body Basal Temps are important for nbe growth just as they are important to conceive. I guess when the body is hot, it can ready the womb for incubating. This affects your metabolism in a good way to burn fat and utilize hormones. So growth happens easy supposedly at, or around 98.3

As for pain, within these four months on BO, it has happened every other month. Then when there is no pain, my breasts are squishy. So yes, off and on, you will feel this pain, soreness and some tingles.

Don't know about your temps being so high, that is strange, hope you are better next time around.
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(04-12-2012, 06:42 PM)tibetan113 Wrote:  WOW,
Turmeric is indeed a mystery. Body Basal Temps are important for nbe growth just as they are important to conceive. I guess when the body is hot, it can ready the womb for incubating. This affects your metabolism in a good way to burn fat and utilize hormones. So growth happens easy supposedly at, or around 98.3

As for pain, within these four months on BO, it has happened every other month. Then when there is no pain, my breasts are squishy. So yes, off and on, you will feel this pain, soreness and some tingles.

Don't know about your temps being so high, that is strange, hope you are better next time around.

At that time I was taking turmeric with PM to see if I can get some swelling Big Grin but all I got was severe back pain with fever. definitely won't do that again. Tongue

so how can we get our body temperature to stay elevated? by using herbs?
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#19

It seems that I can't edit a post after a certain period of time. so I'm gonna update here.

Day 20 of November cycle

My breasts are fuller and I feel bigger today, especially at my left. 32 b cup is definitely small for my left. I'm in luteal phase, it's probably just swelling but my breasts have been aching for the past few days. I have increased shatavari to 750mg, and will take PM too if shatavari isn't strong.

I have a feeling that I'm gonna ditch this bra Tongue so I just keep wearing it and it serves as a measuring tool too Big Grin

I don't use any of these anymore:-
-PC
-EPO/FSO
-Blackseed
-Collagen
-L-Arginine
-Fennel
-Fenugreek

But I might use again if needed in future. And I'm thinking of adding Grapeseed oil into my diet. It's an aromatase inhibitor. So I will take grape seed oil during luteal. Hope it will make my receptors more sensitive to progesterone.

Bust of luck to me with NBE~
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#20

Day 22 of November cycle
Cinnamon from the batter oil made my skin itchy again. My breasts are red from scratching so I will stop massage for a while and resume with period.

I don't notice any swelling, I mean it's not noticeable. Maybe due to shatavari diuretic property. I used to swell bigger than now, full C cup at my left and now it's just a small C. It's ok, I don't want to reach maximum swelling either.

Let's see how it's coming in the next cycle Smile
~good luck~
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