(11-05-2014, 11:11 PM)rocketmelon Wrote: Lotus what are your comments on primrose oil ..is it true it causes excess androgen? ...apparently I heard it can cause acne and loss of nbe fullness O=
and you said earlier
you can mix fg with pm ? is that because they are both strong estrogen so won't cancel each other out ......? was thinking of mixing maca seeing it promotes hormonal balance too
you heard of aguaje I hear you can mix it with pm for growing your butt =p
oh and do you know much on dandelion? is it for hormonal balance or contains hormones ?
sorry for the questions =/ only answer ones you already researched in the past ^^ so I'm not a bother
-I haven't found EPO to have estrogenic effects, I have found a study about it and Aromatase (converts testosterone to estrogen) below
. Everyone's different, so what works for some may not work for others, (ie take what my dear lovely friend Ceci wrote about FSO:
(11-05-2014, 04:15 AM)Ceci82 Wrote: FSO was the cause of my stalling ! when I started properly NBE I massaged with any cream, after reading Emily´s success I really wanted to use FSO, I couldn´t found it ( thanks God !) for almost a year and a half.
A short time after I got some FSO my growth slowed down ( I never connected this fact with FSO). To make the story short a month ago I ran out of FSO and I´ve been using since then Coconut oil instead and I think my breast is starting to growth again
I thought that maybe all this thing about FSO was a crazy idea, but after reading Lotus´s thread I think I´m doing the right thing leaving FSO behind.
Many of you have success with FSO, but for me was like SP: both killed my growth.
I wouldn't use it (my apologies if that upsets people), I think coconut oil is better suited for NBE, (just my opinion though).
-Effect of epidermal growth factor and prostaglandin on the expression of aromatase (CYP19) in human adrenocortical carcinoma cell line NCI-H295R cells.
-PM And FG imo belong in the same program, just don't overdue it and monitor the results.
Fenugreek-Prolactin stimulate, increases production of estrogen, phytoestrogen, adaptogen, Fenugreek contains diosgenin, and is capable of binding to estrogen receptor-sites. Fenugreek Flavonoids (phytoestrogens), regulates the hormonal production and facilitates the development of the mammary glands which 'feed' on estrogens.
Pueraria Mirifica-The most potent phytoestrogen, targets E receptors, minor anti-androgen (daidzien). PM likes to park in the E-receptors and block out the harmful real estrogens that have the potential to become cancerous.
For added butt growth, well we have quite a few members that take maca, so from what I've seen and researched is that results may vary. Eat healthy Fats, nuts, protein and do squats (one legged ones too) stair steppers. I haven't found much on aguaje except from what distributors have put out there, sorry!!
Foods for NBE
Dandelion root-Upregulates estrogen receptors, uses the estrogen you are putting in.
It doesn't contain hormones, it has the potential to up-regulate hormones, other than being a weed it needs to be taken with phytoestrogens to be effective, it also works as a diuretic and laxative. Dandelion extract increases the action of estrogen and progesterone receptors. It may prove to be a useful treatment for reproductive hormone-related problems including PMS. It's also an anti-oxidant and liver and gull-bladder detoxifier.
Sorry Frenchboobs, I was working on the post roughly the same time as yours, nothing intentional.