12-05-2014, 01:53 AM
(12-05-2014, 01:44 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote:(12-05-2014, 01:20 AM)Lotus Wrote:(12-05-2014, 12:53 AM)ELLACRAIG Wrote: So Lotus.
Fenugreek and other weaker phytoestrgoens bind to any/all e receptor sites and to a lesser degree estradiol. Where as PM binds more specifically to Estradiol blocking that out, the strongest estrogen responsible for potential development of cancer and E dominance.
So by rights PM is probably the most beneficial phytoestrogen out there??? And maybe for those out there who are E dominant do you think that PM would have the capabilities to knock estradiol out and replace it rendering the E dominance less harmful?
This is really interesting!
Boy!!!, you ask tough questions lol. Well I suppose it makes sense right?, I mean anything that's used for NBE should have one if not the biggest goal in mind for breast growth and that's targeting E receptors. Sure, there are other things to consider but the basis is the targeting with receptor happy supplements. The top three phytoestrogens are:
1) PM
2) Red Clover
3) FG
And if you wanted the best results for a phytoestrogen it would be PM (extract) and applied directly to the breasts.
Now to knock-out E dominance, PC needs to be in the program to balance out the excess, even PM can cause dominate estrogenic like effects, (nothing is a gimme in NBE).
Is that what you mean?
LOL sorry you know me, I get all over excited and it all comes tumbling out, sometimes back to front
So you've listed the top 3 phytos and fenugreek is up there! That's good But what I was trying to understand is if Fenugreek takes up Estradiol receptors as well or is it just PM that targets the Estradiol?
Cause estradiol being the strongest type we want to knock it off its perch so I figured if PM targets estradiol then in my eyes PM is a relatively safe herb??? Sorry hope that makes more sence.
Oh ok, I understand,
I think of it as if we're sending E-2 on a secret mission to which there's no point of return. Or we're packing her bags and sending her on a long trip, to nowhere lol.
Seriously though, that's theoretically what's happening with phytoestrogens.