(21-05-2015, 02:45 PM)surferjoe2007 Wrote: Estrogen can do this and PM is a strong estrogen imitator. You could still use MSM and/or maybe a little progesterone cream. I've heard of fenugreek causing weight gain for some and weight loss for others. Wild yam, goat's rue, black cohosh and shatavari are similar to fenugreek. Most other herbal NBE acts like estrogen and would be like PM except weaker. You can also tone your stomach with stomach exercises to get it a little flatter even without losing weight.
Thank you Suferjoe I know you are very educated in this subject but after the initial growth spurt in my boobs it seems I then started gaining a tummy which is very hard to overcome even with excersize while on NBE, I just think my body is very sensitive to estrogen. For not im stopping because it's the easiest way to be sure I can smil down on weight, I'm still massaging with my own raw aloe mixture.