[hannah]

So you only had a few pm pills over your whole follicular then a little bit of pc cream but not daily either in luteal and that helped your appetite mood but you had a longer cycle??
If so that's scary a few pills can do that?

I've got this pm here, it's a menopause formula
http://nz.iherb.com/product-reviews/Solg...13362/?p=3

They "reckon" it's an esteogen adaptogen which pure pm should all be and at a very low dose. I'm still too scared to take it but almost tempted to have a pill or two next follicular. Only thing is that some complain of the high B12 content. But I thought your body just simply peed out excess b vitamins and not store it like some negative comments.

My last hormone test had both my e and p at the lower end.

Yeh well the messing up started previous month with 38 days.. that month I took full dose of everything, this cycle is a couple of days shorter already..so maybe my body tried to restore a bit already.
Anyhow b12 in pm is new to me, my hair do feels softer though..but excess vitamins are pied out indeed, it can only be harmful for the kidneys or the liver if its really a lot.

My initial thought while starting NBE is using the natural approach because Ive just been underfed for a long time...and you cant expect a body that not nourished well that its balanced. In puberty everything started to grow and within a year everything was gone, breasts butt etcetera all due to not eating.
So ive always thought that I am in a vicous circle, not having enough tissue(tissues create hormones, are breeding places for hormones). So also have a bad hormonal balance. Without good hormonal balance its also hard to gain weight. As with fat people its often the other way around. They have to much tissue and too much estrogen so are often uable to loose weight.

So I started eating more, paying attention to al the nutrients in ''the rainbow'' etc. But it was VERY hard...my body constantly wanted to go back to its ''set point'''(google term, its interesting) Its a zone a body is familiar with and accordingly regulates your metabolism etc to that.
So I gained maybe 2 kgs then Ate one week a bit more bad, and then all my weight was gone.
Now I see that if I give it a bit extra estrogen, I get appetite back and my body is tending to forget that set point.. why would we want a small stomach and eat so little.. Without Pm i can only eat like a mice. And with I suddenly can eat plenty whenever I want. Normally even tiny bit of food made me bloated, just because I wasnt used to eating :S.

So heres how people can get stuck in certain habits, like overeating or anorexic.. Once your anorexic your body is used to that and even makes you feel as if it wants to stay anorexic. I'm sure PM would work great for such girls.

I'm sure once I get to a healthy weight my body hormones are just normal but right now I tend to think everything is just low just like with you Ella.
But I have not (yet) done testing..Im scared of needles..