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liquid herbs!
March 16 2008 at 6:03 AM Melissa (Login ditavt)
Hi everyone!!
I, too am looking to enlarge my non-existing boobies and am planning on doing single herbs, instead of herbal formulas.
As i was searching the Vitamin Shoppe website, i came across liquid forms of certain herbs, and have decided to purchase the liquid form instead of the dried pills.
I did some research on the advantage of liquids and found that liquid forms of the herbs are much more potent and yield faster results.
1. dried herbs lose a significant percent of their potency because they are diluted.
2. liquids are faster absorbed through the bloodstream, which mean faster results
[i currently do not have the url to the website where i got all this info, but once i find it, ill post, so sorry about that!]
Anyway, basically, i know that some have had success on dried pills alone, i wonder if anyone is actually taking the liquid form of these herbs, and if it in fact does yield better results.
The brand of my liquid herbs is "Nature's Way", which reminds me specifically of "Natureday" [which is one of the only liquid commerical products that i know of...and i also know many have had success on]
So yea, my point, maybe we should all give the liquids a try instead of the pills...just maybe it might yield better results for all of us!
I will begin taking saw palmetto, wild yam, fennel seed, fenugreek, and dong quai root this week, and will update all of you if i see some progress.
Good luck to all you boobie-growers!! =]]
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 16 2008, 7:17 AM
Melissa,
Hello there. It sounds like what you are talking about are liquid herbal extracts, sometimes also called tinctures. Nature's Way is a popular supplement supplier in the U.S. They have no connection to Natureday (the names do rhyme, though!)
I have had similar questions as you regarding liquid herbal extracts versus dried herbs. I too share your thought that liquid extracts sound like an optimal choice, as they do enter the bloodstream more directly (our bodies don't have to do all the hard work digesting fibers, etc.).
I have made a couple posts about this subject, but there wasn't much response regarding the potency or use of these. Granted, posts can get buried fast sometimes, but it seems like most here are using dried herbs in their various forms. I've come to a few conclusions(but would love to be corrected if anyone feels otherwise!) regarding why it seems that most on the forum are using dried herbs:
1) People have noticed results with them and don't feel the need to seek out other options. Also to consider: some people take pills, as you spoke of, which tend to be the DRIED herbal extracts, which are more concentrated than powdered herbs (loose or in capsules). These are probably more potent than just the powdered forms.
2) Liquid herbal extracts seem like a "newer" trend, especially in the U.S. -they don't seem as popular in other branches of herbalism (European, etc.)
3) There are also conflicting opinions on whether dried herbs are more beneficial, as they tend to use the whole plant, and thus none of the therapeutic elements are disregarded. Liquid herbal extracts usually use only isolated parts of a plant (i.e. root, leaf, etc.)
I am considering the use of herbs (namely, liquid herbal extracts) in the near future. Maybe we'll just have to be pioneers in this regard and see how it goes.
Keep us posted!
Durga
This message has been edited by durga on Mar 16, 2008 7:30 AM
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 16 2008, 7:58 AM
One more thing...
You stated: "dried herbs lose a significant percent of their potency because they are diluted." I'm not sure what you meant by "diluted". It is true that SOME powdered herb blends also contain fillers and stabilizers-it is best to check the labels.
However, another factor to consider is how dried herbs are prepared. Other processing factors that compromise the delicate potency of herbs are: exposure to sunlight and air, methods of cutting and sifting and storage/distribution time.
Unfortunately, herbal products (at least here in the U.S.) are barely regulated, if at all. We never really know what we're getting unless we grow them ourselves (sounds nice, no?)...That said, I continue to look at this forum and see that there are responses to herbs bought at the supermarket, so...
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 16 2008, 6:37 PM
I'm not sure that drying herbs does them any good! Even in recipes you would use a different quantity or fresh vs dry herbs but it's easier to copy someone elses program using dry herbs because that's what most people have used so we have more info on the correct dosage.
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 17 2008, 4:55 AM
Louise,
Good point about dried herbs being easier to copy. That is probably the main reason they're so popular. It would be interesting to see if anyone has switched from powdered dried herbs- with no results-to liquid extracts and see if they notice any difference. Ah, but there are so many individual variables...
Durga
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 17 2008, 5:52 AM
Durga - I would say mainly the dosage problem again. When I used separate herbs I calculated that WU is short of what Eve took by certain amounts then tried to add those to my porridge using 1tsp = 5000mg but I've found out since that that's not the case so my measurements were wrong! I think that means I was taking too little but I still felt it gave me more feelings than either 6x or 7x WU alone so I will probably take exactly those amounts again and be less lazy about sticking to it.
March 16 2008 at 6:03 AM Melissa (Login ditavt)
Hi everyone!!
I, too am looking to enlarge my non-existing boobies and am planning on doing single herbs, instead of herbal formulas.
As i was searching the Vitamin Shoppe website, i came across liquid forms of certain herbs, and have decided to purchase the liquid form instead of the dried pills.
I did some research on the advantage of liquids and found that liquid forms of the herbs are much more potent and yield faster results.
1. dried herbs lose a significant percent of their potency because they are diluted.
2. liquids are faster absorbed through the bloodstream, which mean faster results
[i currently do not have the url to the website where i got all this info, but once i find it, ill post, so sorry about that!]
Anyway, basically, i know that some have had success on dried pills alone, i wonder if anyone is actually taking the liquid form of these herbs, and if it in fact does yield better results.
The brand of my liquid herbs is "Nature's Way", which reminds me specifically of "Natureday" [which is one of the only liquid commerical products that i know of...and i also know many have had success on]
So yea, my point, maybe we should all give the liquids a try instead of the pills...just maybe it might yield better results for all of us!
I will begin taking saw palmetto, wild yam, fennel seed, fenugreek, and dong quai root this week, and will update all of you if i see some progress.
Good luck to all you boobie-growers!! =]]
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 16 2008, 7:17 AM
Melissa,
Hello there. It sounds like what you are talking about are liquid herbal extracts, sometimes also called tinctures. Nature's Way is a popular supplement supplier in the U.S. They have no connection to Natureday (the names do rhyme, though!)
I have had similar questions as you regarding liquid herbal extracts versus dried herbs. I too share your thought that liquid extracts sound like an optimal choice, as they do enter the bloodstream more directly (our bodies don't have to do all the hard work digesting fibers, etc.).
I have made a couple posts about this subject, but there wasn't much response regarding the potency or use of these. Granted, posts can get buried fast sometimes, but it seems like most here are using dried herbs in their various forms. I've come to a few conclusions(but would love to be corrected if anyone feels otherwise!) regarding why it seems that most on the forum are using dried herbs:
1) People have noticed results with them and don't feel the need to seek out other options. Also to consider: some people take pills, as you spoke of, which tend to be the DRIED herbal extracts, which are more concentrated than powdered herbs (loose or in capsules). These are probably more potent than just the powdered forms.
2) Liquid herbal extracts seem like a "newer" trend, especially in the U.S. -they don't seem as popular in other branches of herbalism (European, etc.)
3) There are also conflicting opinions on whether dried herbs are more beneficial, as they tend to use the whole plant, and thus none of the therapeutic elements are disregarded. Liquid herbal extracts usually use only isolated parts of a plant (i.e. root, leaf, etc.)
I am considering the use of herbs (namely, liquid herbal extracts) in the near future. Maybe we'll just have to be pioneers in this regard and see how it goes.
Keep us posted!
Durga
This message has been edited by durga on Mar 16, 2008 7:30 AM
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 16 2008, 7:58 AM
One more thing...
You stated: "dried herbs lose a significant percent of their potency because they are diluted." I'm not sure what you meant by "diluted". It is true that SOME powdered herb blends also contain fillers and stabilizers-it is best to check the labels.
However, another factor to consider is how dried herbs are prepared. Other processing factors that compromise the delicate potency of herbs are: exposure to sunlight and air, methods of cutting and sifting and storage/distribution time.
Unfortunately, herbal products (at least here in the U.S.) are barely regulated, if at all. We never really know what we're getting unless we grow them ourselves (sounds nice, no?)...That said, I continue to look at this forum and see that there are responses to herbs bought at the supermarket, so...
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 16 2008, 6:37 PM
I'm not sure that drying herbs does them any good! Even in recipes you would use a different quantity or fresh vs dry herbs but it's easier to copy someone elses program using dry herbs because that's what most people have used so we have more info on the correct dosage.
Durga
(Login durga)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 17 2008, 4:55 AM
Louise,
Good point about dried herbs being easier to copy. That is probably the main reason they're so popular. It would be interesting to see if anyone has switched from powdered dried herbs- with no results-to liquid extracts and see if they notice any difference. Ah, but there are so many individual variables...
Durga
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: liquid herbs!
March 17 2008, 5:52 AM
Durga - I would say mainly the dosage problem again. When I used separate herbs I calculated that WU is short of what Eve took by certain amounts then tried to add those to my porridge using 1tsp = 5000mg but I've found out since that that's not the case so my measurements were wrong! I think that means I was taking too little but I still felt it gave me more feelings than either 6x or 7x WU alone so I will probably take exactly those amounts again and be less lazy about sticking to it.