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EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008 at 4:19 AM
may (Login Cselestyna)
i posted this a while ago, and there seem to be alot of repeat questions, so i am posting it again for anyone who may need it. here it is, i have added a few more things to my personal notes, down at the bottom section, do not worry the part telling eve's program is exact, down to the letter.:
Re: How does one develop their own program? August 3 2008, 5:53 AM
it's all really just trial and error, if you want to try a program i reccomend you try EveM's program, i reccomend her because she had such AMAZING growth and hers it a very popular program,. though i don't know of anyone who actually followed it her pictures should be enough proof for you
, she has a program page, but its alot to take in so in a "easier" to understand format, her program is thus:
(if taken in capsules it's easier, sooo)
barley grass- 800mg (divide it into three portions)
Bere(beremeal) or if you can't find bere you can use Alfalfa- 400mg (divide into 3 portions
fennel- 400mg-again divide into 3 portions)
fenugreek-1800mg -divide into 3 portions
hops-1800mg divide into 3 portions
flaxseed (linseed)-1000mg- divide into 3 portions
oatstraw (aveena sativa)-800mg divide into 3 portions
soy powder( make sure it is a good quality, or you can make your own soy milk at home and just drink a glass or two of that a day, the recipe is in the boobie foods forum)-1000mg (powdered)- you can divide into 3 portions or take it all at once
all the above herbs are in POWDER format and you can buy all of it at www.mountainroseherbs.com except hops powder, flaxseed powder, oatstraw powder you can get those 3 at www.starwestbotanicals.com you can get encapsulators and '00' sized capsules at www.mountainroseherbs.com for a good price as well, the first costs will be about 130+ dollars but in the long run you will SAVE more money than if you buy it already encapsulated or if you buy it at a store, if you buy these herbs by the LB (Pound) you actually save)
if you decide to encapsulate them your self buy at least 3 quantities of '00' capsules, that way you get 3000 capsules and it should last you 3 months or so. you'll also need a weigh scale, cheap at wal-mart, safe-way or anyother grocery store.
that makes for 8 capsules 3 times/day
you also drink 3 cups of tea/day, each time you drink a different tea, rotating between, barley tea, fennel tea and hops tea.
at night you massage your breasts with starflower oil, but you must mix oatsrtaw powder, soy powder and hops into in, you blend it all together, let it sit for a few days and the herbs should either disolve or soften, don't worry if they dry on your skin overnight. you'll wash them off in the morning.
this is her daily routine
My Own Personal Notes:
you could also add shatavari root, one '00' sized capsule2-3 times/day should be sufficient, and if you don't want to take those teas you could also take bustea, found at www.greenbush.net they also have liquid extracts which have been noted to absorb faster if you want a little something extra, however the herbs in the program should be enough.
also it is popular to add a heating pad after your massage, for 20 mins MAX on LOW, a higher heat level could destroy the herbal properties that you are massaging into your routine. there is a massaging forum as well that you can explore as well as some good videos on youtube.
again these are only suggestions but her routine should be good enough
when EveM was finnished growing she went on maintenence for a year to make sure all her growth stayed, she took Fennel 400mg, Fenugreek 1800mg, Hops 1800mg, Linseed 1000mg /day (again divided into three portions)
the best times to take the herbs are once in the morning on an empty stomach, like 30 mins before eating or an hour after eating, once in the middle of your day, again on an empty stomach either 30mons before or 1 hour after eating
and lastly at night, most likely before you go to bed, on an empty stomach.
it is better to take the herbs on an empty stomach because your body then has nothing else to break down and absorbe.
make sure to drink half your wieght in ounces/water (EG my sister is 120lbs so she drinks 60 oz water/day at least
also do not consume caffiene if you can help it, teas are okay, but anything else is a no no, don't smoke or consume drugs. and Exersize, and don't stress out! stress is bad hormones which comflicts with the good hormones the herbs are creating to make boobies.
EAT CLEAN! no junk or processed foods! if you need good eat clean books i STRONGLY suggest you buy Tosca Reno's 'the eat clean diet book ' and Tosca Reno's 'The eat clean diet cook book' these books are like my food bibles, I never have had to lose weight or anything but what these books entail are the foundation to a heathy body which will GREATLY HELP you in you quest for boobies. it says DIET on the cover but what a diet really is is what you consume, if you only eat mc.donalds then that is your diet, the eat clean diet books, help you get to your healthy weight and stay there, so if you lose weight thats great, i have been using it for a while and i haven't lost weight, because i don't need to, but for those looking to lose wieght at the same time this is a very healthy alternative to fast diet pills.
chicken feet soup is also popular to make, and so are smoothies which you can add herbs to, and other foods. you can find these types of boobie foods on the main page under breast foods and drinks (or some title like that.
at the same time, the yin/yang topic is very helpful, there is a test you can take to determine if you are yin, yang or balanced, depending on what you are you will have to take certain foods to reach optimum health, that is what most asian cultures believe, for example i am Severely YANG, so i must eat YIN foods to balance me out. it's alot like estrogen dominant, if you have to much take the oppisite to balance yourself out.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/5120.html
you can also take a non invasive test to tell you what your hormone balance is like.
Also if you have tried other N.B.E things i suggest you take a liver/digestive tract cleanse, to rid yourself of all the left over Boobie 'Junk'. as well don't give up on any program too soon, i'd reccomend go through with a program for 8 months at the very least, consistently.
i hope this helps, and if you have any questions feel free to ask, also if you have questions about EveM's program just ask her
good luck and keep smiling
Frostedmint06
(Login frostedmint06)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008, 5:20 AM
Just to add, Eve said you can use milky oat seed as an alternative to oatstraw in her program.
may
(Login Cselestyna)
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008, 5:45 AM
the herb oatstraw uses the WHOLE plant, the seeds, leaves stems, everything, it is finly chopped. that is why i put it in the list, it IS aneva sativa, but it contains the WHOLE plant not just the seeds. the seeds (which are the tops) and oatstraw can be found at www.mountainroseherbs.com along niether are powdered.
Milky oat refers to the unripened green seed(top) of the wild oat plant
you can get it at these places
http://www.oregonswildharvest.com/owh/br...tops_whole
http://www.earthmedicine.ca/herbs.html
that one is EXPENSIVE!!!!!!
http://www.vitadigest.com/al-avena-sativ...s-100.html
http://www.nutriherb.net/avena_sativa_oats_herb.html
http://www.acadiaherbals.com/Herbs.html
if you go to www.mountainroseherbs.com you will see in the photo that their oattops are in the milky stage, and are 5$ cheaper than the cheapest website for a 1lb order.
so if you want to use oat tops thats fine but oatstraw will work just the same as it is the whole plant, crushed up.
regardless of what you use, these are all going to have to be ground up yourself, say in a grinder or with a mortar and pestle. you may buy them already encapsulated but that is FAR more expensive.
i hope this clears up any misconceptions.
Frostedmint06
(Login frostedmint06)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008, 11:31 PM
Not meaning to be pedantic, but 800 mg of oatstraw is not equivalent to 800mg of oatseed. Oatstraw is the leaves, stems and seeds ( all the aerial parts) so you don't know how much of the seeds you are actually getting. It's far better to just take the seeds because that's the only way to accurately gauge the correct amount.
maylynn
(Login Cselestyna)
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 9 2008, 12:55 PM
what was the point of that? i explained why i put it in there, as well as added a few websites where you can buy it, alongeside mountainroseherbs.the fact that the whole plant isn't the same as the tops is pretty self explanitory.
i believe i did a pretty good job in my thread, if yourself and others want a different write up of her program then by all means write another one. but so far no one else has put the time or effort into writing it up for the reast of the forum. i understand you were correcting my error at first, but i don't understand why there was need for a second critisism.
either way for those who have found any of this thread useful, F.M.06 is perhaps right it is best to just use the tops, make sure they are green though, and you will get them cheaper whole, do not get them shelled or chopped up, if they are shelled or chopped you then alot of the good stuff will probably have been lost. you should be able to grind them up yourself easily with a coffee grinder or someother type of electric grinder.
another thing i should add, it is a good idea to take a daily multi-vitamin, also if you are taking a calcium/magnesium supplement, make sure you take it 4 hours before anyother supplement, or herb, or else the calcium/magnesium will override and destroy your other things. it usually tells you that on the box/container.
hope this helps.
davina
(Login Davina)
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 10 2008, 10:10 AM
Oats is the most confusing herb ever, but the good news is that oatstraw supplements and oatseed suplements are both useful for NBE. So long as you are getting avena sativa it's going to be good for you.
November 7 2008 at 4:19 AM
may (Login Cselestyna)
i posted this a while ago, and there seem to be alot of repeat questions, so i am posting it again for anyone who may need it. here it is, i have added a few more things to my personal notes, down at the bottom section, do not worry the part telling eve's program is exact, down to the letter.:
Re: How does one develop their own program? August 3 2008, 5:53 AM
it's all really just trial and error, if you want to try a program i reccomend you try EveM's program, i reccomend her because she had such AMAZING growth and hers it a very popular program,. though i don't know of anyone who actually followed it her pictures should be enough proof for you
, she has a program page, but its alot to take in so in a "easier" to understand format, her program is thus:(if taken in capsules it's easier, sooo)
barley grass- 800mg (divide it into three portions)
Bere(beremeal) or if you can't find bere you can use Alfalfa- 400mg (divide into 3 portions
fennel- 400mg-again divide into 3 portions)
fenugreek-1800mg -divide into 3 portions
hops-1800mg divide into 3 portions
flaxseed (linseed)-1000mg- divide into 3 portions
oatstraw (aveena sativa)-800mg divide into 3 portions
soy powder( make sure it is a good quality, or you can make your own soy milk at home and just drink a glass or two of that a day, the recipe is in the boobie foods forum)-1000mg (powdered)- you can divide into 3 portions or take it all at once
all the above herbs are in POWDER format and you can buy all of it at www.mountainroseherbs.com except hops powder, flaxseed powder, oatstraw powder you can get those 3 at www.starwestbotanicals.com you can get encapsulators and '00' sized capsules at www.mountainroseherbs.com for a good price as well, the first costs will be about 130+ dollars but in the long run you will SAVE more money than if you buy it already encapsulated or if you buy it at a store, if you buy these herbs by the LB (Pound) you actually save)
if you decide to encapsulate them your self buy at least 3 quantities of '00' capsules, that way you get 3000 capsules and it should last you 3 months or so. you'll also need a weigh scale, cheap at wal-mart, safe-way or anyother grocery store.
that makes for 8 capsules 3 times/day
you also drink 3 cups of tea/day, each time you drink a different tea, rotating between, barley tea, fennel tea and hops tea.
at night you massage your breasts with starflower oil, but you must mix oatsrtaw powder, soy powder and hops into in, you blend it all together, let it sit for a few days and the herbs should either disolve or soften, don't worry if they dry on your skin overnight. you'll wash them off in the morning.
this is her daily routine
My Own Personal Notes:
you could also add shatavari root, one '00' sized capsule2-3 times/day should be sufficient, and if you don't want to take those teas you could also take bustea, found at www.greenbush.net they also have liquid extracts which have been noted to absorb faster if you want a little something extra, however the herbs in the program should be enough.
also it is popular to add a heating pad after your massage, for 20 mins MAX on LOW, a higher heat level could destroy the herbal properties that you are massaging into your routine. there is a massaging forum as well that you can explore as well as some good videos on youtube.
again these are only suggestions but her routine should be good enough
when EveM was finnished growing she went on maintenence for a year to make sure all her growth stayed, she took Fennel 400mg, Fenugreek 1800mg, Hops 1800mg, Linseed 1000mg /day (again divided into three portions)
the best times to take the herbs are once in the morning on an empty stomach, like 30 mins before eating or an hour after eating, once in the middle of your day, again on an empty stomach either 30mons before or 1 hour after eating
and lastly at night, most likely before you go to bed, on an empty stomach.
it is better to take the herbs on an empty stomach because your body then has nothing else to break down and absorbe.
make sure to drink half your wieght in ounces/water (EG my sister is 120lbs so she drinks 60 oz water/day at least
also do not consume caffiene if you can help it, teas are okay, but anything else is a no no, don't smoke or consume drugs. and Exersize, and don't stress out! stress is bad hormones which comflicts with the good hormones the herbs are creating to make boobies.
EAT CLEAN! no junk or processed foods! if you need good eat clean books i STRONGLY suggest you buy Tosca Reno's 'the eat clean diet book ' and Tosca Reno's 'The eat clean diet cook book' these books are like my food bibles, I never have had to lose weight or anything but what these books entail are the foundation to a heathy body which will GREATLY HELP you in you quest for boobies. it says DIET on the cover but what a diet really is is what you consume, if you only eat mc.donalds then that is your diet, the eat clean diet books, help you get to your healthy weight and stay there, so if you lose weight thats great, i have been using it for a while and i haven't lost weight, because i don't need to, but for those looking to lose wieght at the same time this is a very healthy alternative to fast diet pills.
chicken feet soup is also popular to make, and so are smoothies which you can add herbs to, and other foods. you can find these types of boobie foods on the main page under breast foods and drinks (or some title like that.
at the same time, the yin/yang topic is very helpful, there is a test you can take to determine if you are yin, yang or balanced, depending on what you are you will have to take certain foods to reach optimum health, that is what most asian cultures believe, for example i am Severely YANG, so i must eat YIN foods to balance me out. it's alot like estrogen dominant, if you have to much take the oppisite to balance yourself out.
http://www.enotalone.com/article/5120.html
you can also take a non invasive test to tell you what your hormone balance is like.
Also if you have tried other N.B.E things i suggest you take a liver/digestive tract cleanse, to rid yourself of all the left over Boobie 'Junk'. as well don't give up on any program too soon, i'd reccomend go through with a program for 8 months at the very least, consistently.
i hope this helps, and if you have any questions feel free to ask, also if you have questions about EveM's program just ask her
good luck and keep smiling
Frostedmint06
(Login frostedmint06)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008, 5:20 AM
Just to add, Eve said you can use milky oat seed as an alternative to oatstraw in her program.
may
(Login Cselestyna)
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008, 5:45 AM
the herb oatstraw uses the WHOLE plant, the seeds, leaves stems, everything, it is finly chopped. that is why i put it in the list, it IS aneva sativa, but it contains the WHOLE plant not just the seeds. the seeds (which are the tops) and oatstraw can be found at www.mountainroseherbs.com along niether are powdered.
Milky oat refers to the unripened green seed(top) of the wild oat plant
you can get it at these places
http://www.oregonswildharvest.com/owh/br...tops_whole
http://www.earthmedicine.ca/herbs.html
that one is EXPENSIVE!!!!!!
http://www.vitadigest.com/al-avena-sativ...s-100.html
http://www.nutriherb.net/avena_sativa_oats_herb.html
http://www.acadiaherbals.com/Herbs.html
if you go to www.mountainroseherbs.com you will see in the photo that their oattops are in the milky stage, and are 5$ cheaper than the cheapest website for a 1lb order.
so if you want to use oat tops thats fine but oatstraw will work just the same as it is the whole plant, crushed up.
regardless of what you use, these are all going to have to be ground up yourself, say in a grinder or with a mortar and pestle. you may buy them already encapsulated but that is FAR more expensive.
i hope this clears up any misconceptions.
Frostedmint06
(Login frostedmint06)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 7 2008, 11:31 PM
Not meaning to be pedantic, but 800 mg of oatstraw is not equivalent to 800mg of oatseed. Oatstraw is the leaves, stems and seeds ( all the aerial parts) so you don't know how much of the seeds you are actually getting. It's far better to just take the seeds because that's the only way to accurately gauge the correct amount.
maylynn
(Login Cselestyna)
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 9 2008, 12:55 PM
what was the point of that? i explained why i put it in there, as well as added a few websites where you can buy it, alongeside mountainroseherbs.the fact that the whole plant isn't the same as the tops is pretty self explanitory.
i believe i did a pretty good job in my thread, if yourself and others want a different write up of her program then by all means write another one. but so far no one else has put the time or effort into writing it up for the reast of the forum. i understand you were correcting my error at first, but i don't understand why there was need for a second critisism.
either way for those who have found any of this thread useful, F.M.06 is perhaps right it is best to just use the tops, make sure they are green though, and you will get them cheaper whole, do not get them shelled or chopped up, if they are shelled or chopped you then alot of the good stuff will probably have been lost. you should be able to grind them up yourself easily with a coffee grinder or someother type of electric grinder.
another thing i should add, it is a good idea to take a daily multi-vitamin, also if you are taking a calcium/magnesium supplement, make sure you take it 4 hours before anyother supplement, or herb, or else the calcium/magnesium will override and destroy your other things. it usually tells you that on the box/container.
hope this helps.
davina
(Login Davina)
Re: EveM's ENTIRE program!
November 10 2008, 10:10 AM
Oats is the most confusing herb ever, but the good news is that oatstraw supplements and oatseed suplements are both useful for NBE. So long as you are getting avena sativa it's going to be good for you.
I hope it fits okay :S Where in the US do you live? If you live anywhere near New York, I would visit this store called Ripplu. People who order online seem to have problems with their sizing so going to the actually store would be better. I've only ordered 2 online and hestitate to buy a another (even though I like the 2 I have) because the two I have bought fit very differently even though they are the same size. Weird. Another US site I can think of Bareneccessities. Alot of bras on Figleaves are also sold on that site.