23-05-2017, 05:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 23-05-2017, 05:50 PM by surferjoe2007.)
52.91 ng/g was the whole antler, not the more concentrated extract.
The extract I linked to is a 43:1 tip extract (if you get the 1100) but only 36.7 mg extract per dose. So 80 ng, i.e. 0.08 mcg.
Pro bodybuilders use 40 mcg, which is too much for common use and will get them banned from sports. Deer velvet won't. They also use it every other day, so actually 20 mcg per day. And they use 10-20mcg per 2 days if avoiding side effects. These dosages also might carry unknown long term risks that we haven't learned about yet too. Though as far as drugs go IGF seems to be pretty tame. Probably why it isn't a scheduled drug like steroids. Also that's the amount for athletes to build a lot of muscle and testosterone. Not NBE.
Yeah 80 ng is not a lot. I was surprised that they put only 36.7 mg extract in 2 mL (2 gramsl liquid). Maybe I need to keep looking. OTOH some bodybuilder got mild results, so I'm confused. Maybe it was because the extract also has tribilus in it. I found some other IGF supplements that also had around 0.08 mcg or 0.03 mcg.
Where can you find that specific colostrum extract used in the study? I found colostrum but not colostrum extract. The one in the study used highly toxic acids and a centrifuge followed by multiple chemical processes to extract, which I don't think you'll find in a supplement. In fact it seems like they extracted pure IGF-1 molecules similar to synthetic IGF-1 and probably just as illegal. Also IGF-1 is not absorbed through the skin. You have to inject or put under the tongue.
I found this deer velvet extract that claims 0.4 mcg per serving and has 60 servings:
http://www.antlerfarms.co/Deer-Antler-Sp...aQoddesMjQ
http://www.antlerfarms.co/Deer-Antler-Sp...aQod0YUBZA
That's at least a more reasonable amount. Assuming 5-10 mcg per day is a bit extreme for casual use or NBE, 0.4 mcg may not be that low.
Got a good review here for joint pain, post 11/13: http://forum.muscleandstrength.com/threa...ong-Living
Person used 3 doses per day though (1.2 mcg IGF-1) and it took 1 month.
Tthough he put his parents on 1 dose a day for general health because they aren't athletes.
I'm going to order some, try 3 doses a day for male stuff and report back.
The extract I linked to is a 43:1 tip extract (if you get the 1100) but only 36.7 mg extract per dose. So 80 ng, i.e. 0.08 mcg.
Pro bodybuilders use 40 mcg, which is too much for common use and will get them banned from sports. Deer velvet won't. They also use it every other day, so actually 20 mcg per day. And they use 10-20mcg per 2 days if avoiding side effects. These dosages also might carry unknown long term risks that we haven't learned about yet too. Though as far as drugs go IGF seems to be pretty tame. Probably why it isn't a scheduled drug like steroids. Also that's the amount for athletes to build a lot of muscle and testosterone. Not NBE.
Yeah 80 ng is not a lot. I was surprised that they put only 36.7 mg extract in 2 mL (2 gramsl liquid). Maybe I need to keep looking. OTOH some bodybuilder got mild results, so I'm confused. Maybe it was because the extract also has tribilus in it. I found some other IGF supplements that also had around 0.08 mcg or 0.03 mcg.
Where can you find that specific colostrum extract used in the study? I found colostrum but not colostrum extract. The one in the study used highly toxic acids and a centrifuge followed by multiple chemical processes to extract, which I don't think you'll find in a supplement. In fact it seems like they extracted pure IGF-1 molecules similar to synthetic IGF-1 and probably just as illegal. Also IGF-1 is not absorbed through the skin. You have to inject or put under the tongue.
I found this deer velvet extract that claims 0.4 mcg per serving and has 60 servings:
http://www.antlerfarms.co/Deer-Antler-Sp...aQoddesMjQ
http://www.antlerfarms.co/Deer-Antler-Sp...aQod0YUBZA
That's at least a more reasonable amount. Assuming 5-10 mcg per day is a bit extreme for casual use or NBE, 0.4 mcg may not be that low.
Got a good review here for joint pain, post 11/13: http://forum.muscleandstrength.com/threa...ong-Living
Person used 3 doses per day though (1.2 mcg IGF-1) and it took 1 month.
Tthough he put his parents on 1 dose a day for general health because they aren't athletes.
I'm going to order some, try 3 doses a day for male stuff and report back.