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Unread post 23 Jul 2009, 20:28 #1
*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

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Unread post 23 Jul 2009, 21:00 #2
I guess some would think I have it easy. There are people on here that put a lot more into this, I just started posting my program really bc I wanted to be 1 more in the positive stat that NBE can work, but I havent learned anything about permanence yet.
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Unread post 23 Jul 2009, 21:11 #3

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

Just in case anyone is thinking of evegen or femagis, I ordered mine from different ebay sellers, the original product sites are quite pricey$$$$.
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Unread post 06 Aug 2009, 14:30 #4

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

Just a little update

fullness maintained, less tender.

wt 124 lbs

applying femagis to only R breast, believe its only working bc this is the only breast massaged, think the femagis still effects the other breast. You just cant use something topically for an internal effect without effecting the entire body Thats how hormone/nicotine/medication patches work.

Topicals only work locally on external areas, like fungal creams for ring worm, or hydrocortisone for bug bites. Thought I'd throw that info in for anyone who just hadn't thought about it.

My wishful thinking keeps me at it! I am certain the massage/heat helps one breast though!
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Unread post 10 Aug 2009, 02:11 #5

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

No new changes growth wise, adding to routine:

TAGAMET 400mg twice daily
evegen 3 caps twice daily
femagis cr. R breast twice daily

Just remembered Tagamet blocks androgen as a side effect!

All vitamins, etc. same as prev posts.
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Unread post 12 Aug 2009, 00:24 #6

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

NEW herbs are here, they came in today!

adding sea kelp 100mg daily to the vitamin routine,

BREAST ROUTINE:
Tagamet 400mg 2x/day
Evegen 3 caps 2x/day
Femagis cr/massage R breast only

(Puritans pride whole herb Capsules, not standardized or extract)
Fenugreek 610mg 2x/day
Fennel seed 480mg 2x/day
EPO+soy isoflavones(epo500mg/soy50mg)per capsule 2x/day

may ramp up over the next few days, will see. Only got 4-6wks of good growing time for the year, then I'll ramp down for the winter and pick back up in spring.Depends on my weight really, if it looks like Im packin on the pounds this fall, then I'll ramp down and count my calories for a while, if no weight problems then I may keep going.


Noticed a decrease in growing pains, but maintained majority of fullness, maybe this will get me going again!
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Unread post 12 Aug 2009, 14:41 #7

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

wish i knew how to edit my posts, then i wouldnt have so many new posts everytime i think to put in more information!!

measurements 36-30-28-37 (bust-underbust-waist-hips)

wt 124 lbs -cant seem to get back to my 119 since starting NBE, but dont seem to be gaining more, leveled off for now, i think.

according to most bra calculators I am 34b(cant breathe).I wear 36b on loosest hook(loose at top before NBE, now well filled!!!)36-38a squashes me too!

anyone welcome to post here if note anything that might be useful.thx.=)
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Unread post 14 Aug 2009, 16:42 #8

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

ok just so it has been stated, the TAGAMET, is considered unrecommended by senior members.

Adding PM 500mg to replace EPO+soy, feel uncomfortable using the EPO since I am not at present time using an omega 3 supplement to balance it.
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Unread post 16 Aug 2009, 19:06 #9

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

ok, I saw that to much estrogen can lead to feeling some tiredness, I think that could be happening, my energy levels are very sensitive, so lets back off a tad:

Evegen 2 caps 2/x day
fenugr 2 caps 2x/day, 610mg caps
fennel 1 cap 2x/day, 480mg caps
wild y 1 cap 2x/day, 405mg caps

stress multivit 1x/day with alternated vit(s) QOD as aforementioned
sea kelp 250mg 1x/day
amino acid complex 2x/day
enteric coated baby asprin 81mg 1x/day(fear of blood clot since playing with hormones)

Discontinued: EPO+soy and Tagamet and PM 500mg(may resume later), Femagis breast cream(may resume at later date)

Booby batter: regular perfumed body lotion 6oz, added wild yam and hops---massage R breast 2x/day for about 3min.(lazy I guess)

noticing increased visibility of blue veins in chest(especially the R breast, massaged)-also a heavy feeling of breasts, though no more growth noted at present, no more sharp tingle pains like first mo., now just kinda dull heavy feeling(about 2 full mo of NBE now)

been switching program around a lot, gonna try to stick to this now.(impatient i guess)

PLEASE IF YOU NOTICE ANYTHING NEGATIVE/DANGEROUS HERE, OPINIONS ARE APPRECIATED!THX!
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Unread post 31 Aug 2009, 01:48 #10

*30yrs
*HT 5'5"
*4yrs post preggers,all bottle fed x3, never breast
*smoker/caffiene user (no alcohol or street)cigs ultralight 1pk day
*Rx meds -- prozac 40mg qd
depo IM q3mo.(contraceptive)bout 10yrs
*Supplements--otc stress multi with min.everyday
12.5 mg dhea about 2x wkly(more makes me cranky)
extra vits every other day(A-not beta,C,D,Bcomp.,E,zinc, selenium,calcium)
daily fiber drink(helps me keep my wt down post preg, whatever, dunno, it works)
caffiene 400mg in morning, 200mg in afternoon(low energy person, no coffee/soda rare)
*Current Health, DX--depression (managing well)

I AM THE GIRL EVERYONE TEASED IN HIGH SCHOOL, THERE IS HOPE FOR THOSE BEANPOLES, FEATHERWEIGHTS, AND MOSQUITO BITES! LOL!

*NBE HX-- erdic($$$)---about 10 yrs ago, 1 post preg., got results.(nothing major, just post preg refill)But I didnt do it right, only about 2mo., nasty pills and too many(couldnt handle it)Do remember some wt gain with it though not major.

*NBE program-- Evegen 3 caps BID(twice daily)since about mid june
* did a natural detox of own devised, no marketed brand,(was coincidence, not done for NBE)no hormone tests done ever

*appx. mid June 09
bra-36b, loose at top, swell filled
wt 119lbs (fairly natural, though I do watch it a little)no great diet/exercise plans
measure 35-28-36
jeans--tight 3, relaxed 5, 4 isnt right somehow

*July 21,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 124lbs
added femagis cream (why not experiment)rt breast slightly less full than left
rt breast--cream applied twice daily, lt breast once daily (we'll see)

*July 23,09
bra-36b, very full and tender
wt 122lbs, last wt was 124lbs(eating out a lot, everyday, not my usual habit & cut back no
related breast loss noted)
nothing special to note

coolin it for the winter----

fenugreek 610mg/D
fennel 480mg/D
wild yam 405mg/D
PM 500mg/D

stopping evegen til spring

sea kelp 50mg /D
stress multi vit 1 tab/D
vit E 400iu/D
vit c 500mg/D
vit a 8000iu/D (retinol pal)
gelatin 650mg/D
multiple aminos 500mg/D (calcium caseinate)
b-comp 75mg/D
dhea 6.25mg/D

wt 127lbs-----urgh!!

36- 28 1/2- 37
well filled 36b