Have tossed the fennel batter. Smell was unbearable. Massaging with cocoa butter and vit e now.
Massage technique: rubbing it in with circular movements with fingers first and then with knuckles every evening and morning. Not sure it is intensive enough as i read some girls on here use heat before and after and massage for longer time. I only massage 5 minutes but after massaging boobs definately feel different and tingly so i am hoping i am doing enough to make them understand they need to grow.
Have been two days on program now and have actually felt some sharp pains in breasts last night. Not sure if it wasn't just the massage but i hope it means the Fenugreek is doing it's job.
Will stay on this for another few days to see if sensations stay and then look into what to add next. I might add fennel but not sure as i don't want to overdo the estrogens and stall. As i feel sensations i guess it means the dose might be just right for me? Other options i can add are: saw palmetto. wild yam, red clover, hops. I think i should add saw palmetto as my next step?
Btw. I don't mind anyone posting comments on my program.
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Unread postJan 27, 2008
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking 
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program 
Do you have signs of excess androgens? Acne, greasy hair, hairy body? If so then the saw palmetto will definitely be a good thing to try... if not though you probably don't need to bother trying to take it...
good luck
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Unread postJan 27, 2008
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program
Have tried to figure out if i have any hormonal imbalance but i recognise myself in every list of symptoms a bit, lol, so really not sure. I do have some hot flashes from time to time, but i guess the fenugreek might be causing this? It sometimes comes with the (hopefully growing) pains in my boobs.
Have decided not to add any Fennel yet. fenugreek and fennel have the same properties so i might consider them one herb and i think for my weight and cupsize i am allready on a pretty high dose of Fenugreek (1830 mg).
Made new booby batter of EPO, olive oil, fenugreek caps and fennel caps. Will let it steep for a week before using it. Looks like it's still going to be messy and gritty but have thought of a solution to that: Will wrap boobs in plastic before sleeping so i dont stain bed. Hope that will not hinder growth though. Morning massage will still consist of vit e/coconut only as i dont see possibility to go to work with messy batter applied. Really wondering how others manage to do this?
As from tomorrow will add Saw Palmetto 600 mg caps and ramp up daily by one. Hopefully will get even more sensations. Fingers crossed!
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program
Uhm is saw palmetto a libido enhancer? :S
And i have only started with one. Don't want to know how it will feel when i ramp it up. This is torture for a single woman, lol.
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Unread postJan 31, 2008
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program
Well have been slacking a bit. took pills only once yesterday.
Have ramped up to this program though:
am:
kelp
borage oil
fenugreek 610
saw palmetto 600
noon:
fenugreek 610
saw palmetto 600
protein shake
pm:
multivitamin
fenugreek 610
saw palmetto 600
Breasts feel sore and there are stabbing pains under nipples but i guess that is because my body is adjusting to higher level of herbs. I noticed sensations got weaker on fenugreek after a couple of days. I'll just wait and see if this happens with sp too.
Need to watch alcohol intake, sleep and eat better.
Have noticed sensations get much stronger after massage and/or heat so must go buy me a heating pad and try to use that before going to sleep.
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Unread postFeb 03, 2008
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program
The saw palmetto is giving me moodswings, headaches, gas/cramps.
It is also making my breasts very sore.
Decided to ramp down to 1 dose in the evening though as i really don't like how it makes my body feel althought judging from the sensations in my breasts it seems to work.
Will start to take Wild yam tomorrow and if that doesn't do the trick might decide to ramp up sp again.
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program
I have started on Wonderup today which came in with my period.
I have quit the herbs in february as it was a period of stress, not eating well and smoking a lot, so i figured it wouldn't do anything for me anyway. In march i stayed with my grandma for a month where i ate very healthy and minimized the smoking so i started again. I had loads of tingles then. After a couple of weeks a friend of mine came over and i started smoking more and as i didn't know how to explain to him why i was taking loads of pills 3 times a day i quit again.
I am starting on wonderup as from today and hope it will be easier to stick to as i don't have to take that many pills. Still smoking though and looking into a supplement to help wit that. I quit the kelp as it was slowing down my metabolism to much.
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Unread postJun 09, 2008
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Sex: female
Age: 28
Height: 164 cm
Weight: 57 kg
Current Size
Bust: 85 cm
Rib: 75 cm
(aprox, but not sure if i measured right, have to go buy good measuring tape)
so here in europe a 75 AA although i wear B bras, but maybe that is wishfull thinking
No health problems, no medications, no birth control, no children.
Body type: very slender, narrow hips, small breasts, do have a booty though and a tummy pouch at the moment as i have gained some weight over christmas.
My goal is a full B cup, but if i could get to a c i would be over the moon.
I have the feeling my boobs have got a lot firmer, but i guess that's because i have gained some weight and have managed to stop smoking (yay!). I don't think they have ever been so big though so i hope that means this is a good moment to start my NBE program.
I am starting a detox with ultimate cleanse as from today to make my body ready for the NBE.
When my period starts i will start ramping up herbs.
Wish me luck! Can't wait to actually start my program
My bust is measuring 86 cm right now so i seem to have grown 1 cm on the wonderup? Breasts feel denser and fuller when i pick them up too. I also have more cleavage.
I can't believe there is actually something happening with all the drinking and smoking i do but it is there.
I have started eating better though and have also gained some weight so it might have something to do with that. I have also started bcp Tryginon half way through my first month of WU so that might have triggered some growth too. I feel my growth happened before that though.
When i started taking WU my breasts were very swollen the first few days and i had the most sensations i ever had. They where looking like round balls the first day, almost bursting out of their skin, and i had some very deep pains. The sensations seem to have diminished since then and they are softer again, but my breasts are still feeling like there is something happening inside them all the time, especially in the morning when i have massaged good in the evening, so i can't wait to see what my second month on WU will do for them.
I like taking WU far better than all of those separate herb capsules
I have started spotting. Never had that before, so it worries me, but i guess that is due to the bcp
Also i have a better metabolism due to Wonderup, which i am very happy about. might be the gingko biloba?
I try to massage twice a day but i mostly get to it once a day. Will try to pick the evening massages up again.
I have been slacking on the protein shakes as i don't like their taste and sometimes forgot to take the Borage oil/vitam before bed as i seem to get nauseous when i take them combined with the herbs but i am planning to begin taking them again separately.
