[angelrage]

A few questions if you please...

Is there a list of herbs and their hormonal effects/content (estrogen vs progesterone)? I would at least like to know Fenugreek, Wild Yam, Fennel, Red Clover, Saw Palmetto.

Is fenugreek best for breast massage? Does the powder smell as bad as liquid extract? What is a substitute for fenugreek (same hormonal effect)?

Is putting progesterone (in cream and/or in herbs) on breasts good or bad for growth? Would an estrogenic herb be best for topical application to breasts?

How do i relate these herbs to my menstrual cycle? Do i need to take estrogenic herbs and progestin herbs at different times during my cycle? Do i continue taking them through menstruation?

What is the best mix of herbs based on their plant hormones? More estrogen herbs than progestenic? Equal amount?

Are there others besides estrogen and progesterone that must be incorporated into a NBE program?

I know that if you're over 30 you may need growth hormones. Try to eat organic and avoid xenoestrogens. Try to keep your blood sugar from spiking...

Thank you for your input!
Angel

[PrincessLyn]

You've raised some good questions, I'm interested in finding out these answers as well

~Lyn

[Andy]

Found this somewhere, probably here. Don't remember where. I would double check info listed. I would access the archive for the old site. And use the search feature to serch for the herbs individually. I would try both the mens and general discusion sections. I am, slowly building tissue so the info is valid from both.

Hope this helps.

andy

gotta get a new signiture line. Edna's on vacation. Wish I was there.

Helps Produce More Female-like Hormone Balance and Breast Growth:
Red Clover Blossoms - High in phytoestrogen to make your breast grow.


Licorice Root - Phytoestrogen, take one month at a time and take two months off. Can effect your blood pressure.


Chaste Tree Berries - One of the highest phytoestrogens around, takes about a month to build up in your system...


Saw Palmetto - Testosterone blocker.


Black Cohosh Root - Phytoestrogen and progestrone stimulater.


PABA - Keeps hormones and phytoestrogens in your sysytem at higher levels.


GABA - A growth hormone stimulater that causes the growth hormones in your body to increase.


Wild Yam Root - Natural progesterone.


Progesterone Cream - Use for three weeks, then one week off.

[Andy]

Take a look at this page. I believe it will answer most of your questions. I had another page somewhere for you to look at. I'll find it later. Also I would go to tghe site search engine and search for newbie. Also do so under each of the old archive site. You can click archive from within each section of the new site. It will take you to the old site section individually. Then click on search this forum. There is a ton of info in the old site.

andy

http://beboard.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Routines&action=display&thread=3029

[Andy]

Try these posts. They are from the mens forum on the old site, but may be revalent. Don't forget to go back to the original post so you can understand the thread.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/547753/me...i+Twink%21

http://www.network54.com/Forum/547753/me...lations%21

http://www.network54.com/Forum/547753/me...a+break%21

Here is some more liks to relavent info.

This link will take you to the old forums general forum. The search page the link will take you to is full of threads. I believe on topic.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/371678/se...sort=match


This page is by fennel fairy on skin structure and adsorbtion. Here is the link. Good reading.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/547753/me...E+massage-

I use a mix of steeped fenugreek and fennel seed. I take a recipe for tea and up the fennel content a little. I tsp and a half of fennel to a cup of water. Added into a mixed cream of Lubriderm, lavender essential Oil body lottion with Eucalyptus essential oil. Can't say how effective this is, and is not the cheapest way to go. Will probably change mix to a oil base like oilve oil or baby lotion next batch. Gotta soak the stuff in the oilve oil first. See link in post before this one for more info. I would recomend doing a search through the forum to find even more info. But this information will give you the basic idea.

The Fenugreek listed can be bought cheeper online, Puritans Pride, Greenbush, and others. If you can not buy online you can buy it at GNC and other health food supliers. Keep in maind though. GNC is usually higher on prices.

andy

[angelrage]

thank you for finding all that information andy! i have a lot to read.
the 5 links in post #5 don't work, cuz of the ...

off the top of your head, what's the GLA content of flax seed oil, is it good for massage?

and also does the greenbush fenugreek POWDER smell as mapley as the extract? i cant use it for massage if that is the case...