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In the light of recent events, I started thinking about something. Is there a difference in men and women growing breasts? If yes, how much difference? Men have all the structures of a real breast but it is not developed. Every embryo develops as a female and at some point the male chromosome becomes active and starts producing male sexual characterisitcs for men. One of the byproducts of this is breasts. Breasts and nipples are formed before Y chromosome activation. And as we have seen on here, when hormones are manipulated, a man can grow breasts. I believe the only difference between men and women growing breasts is hormone related. So how different can our journeys be? What do you think?
I know either way, the men on here who have grown breasts have been a tremendous inspiration to me as much as the women. It's very intriguing to see that one can change their body.
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(02-07-2010, 07:16 AM)Hazel Wrote: In the light of recent events, I started thinking about something. Is there a difference in men and women growing breasts? If yes, how much difference? Men have all the structures of a real breast but it is not developed. Every embryo develops as a female and at some point the male chromosome becomes active and starts producing male sexual characterisitcs for men. One of the byproducts of this is breasts. Breasts and nipples are formed before Y chromosome activation.
Exactly!! That is what I was thinking the whole time that ridiculous argument about their breasts being different was brought up. I don't know, I'm not a doctor, but I'm sure Cheryl can shed some light. Her breasts look every bit natural and female. Based on the above facts, I'd have to say that it is of my opinion that given Cheryl's low testosterone and the fact she took mammary female hormones, her breasts are probably every bit as booby-like as any female's. I can't see any difference tbh, it's all down to hormones at the end of the day. O and I hope she doesn't mind me sharing, but when I was worried I had started lactating she said she had and described the symptoms. I hadn't, thankfully. But yes, if her breasts can produce milk in a full blown lactation, and that is what nature intended breasts for, then I would have to side with the view that she grew fully fledged breasts as a biological male. It's quite amazing, it really is.
Cheryl, if you read this, you're a treasure and I'm glad we have you on this board. You give hope and inspiration to all of us non-judgemental majority. Your growth is phenomenal. And hell, if BO (hehe that always makes me giggle) and NB can give a biological male bonafide breasts, then why the hell shouldn't it work for us biological ladies?
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Actually when I was breastfeeding I was very active in La Leche League which is a worldwide organization that promotes and helps moms with nursing and there I met an adoptive mother who was breastfeeding her baby. She had her glands activated with some medication and was stimulating her breasts with massage to bring on the milk.
We were all wow-ed with this and then we got on talking about men who nurse their kids - actually there are cases of dads who develop breasts and start producing sufficient (and perfectly good) milk to nurse their kids.
Don´t ask me how it´s done, but it does work. Which goes to show that male and female breasts are basically the same thing, only in the case of females it is more developed. So yeah, that explains why nbe works for men as well I think.
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Hi everyone, as far as i know male and female chests are identical, its only when puberty starts and a woman starts to produce estrogen and other hormones that the breast and nipples develop. So if a man develops breasts they are identical inside to that of a womans, now the problem is alot of men have so many other hormones in there body like testosterone that when they do want to develop breasts many find it hard or develop breasts which are not fully formed due to these male hormones blocking the results and ofcourse the older they get the more the body struggles to use estrogen to develop breasts that why many trans women who began hormone treatment in there teens tend to develop full female breasts, and the older you get the least chance you have to become fully developed. It actually amazes me that something like hormones can change so much and are so powerful. i often wonder how i managed to develop so well and the answer my specialist gives is, i am lucky and was born to be a woman lol so i feel so grateful for everything i have gained and all in a natural way.
Hugs Cheryl xxxx
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Here is a link to page that covers the development of the breast in M2F transgendered.
http://www.tgguide.com/Library/breast-development.htm
I hope the information contained is of some use.
andy
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Sorry, forgot to mention that the page I listed is with genetic males transitioning on prescription hormones. The same priciples and development should still apply. The page also only covers (unless I missed something) development only with hormone treatment. I believe the use of a NB or vaccum device, masseage, etc. Can help with development.
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Well I think you can grow a breast on your thigh with a NB if you want, but that's another matter. Thank you Andy for the site, it's just what I was looking for. It's interesting though that the older a man gets, the less likely they are to grow fully developed breasts. Also that site made me realize I am stuck in tanner stage IV, I don't know what this means for me.
roseability, I was thinking this the whole time too. What is so different between a man and a woman growing breasts? Just hormones. So we can all contribute in each others' programs. Either way, looking at Cheryl's photos I could tell NBE works.
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Quote:It's interesting though that the older a man gets, the less likely they are to grow fully developed breasts.
Yes time can be against us. I would mention again that I am not convinced that full. Or near full development cannot be achieved using techniques ranging from the NB to herbs and supliments.
As to being stuck in stage four. Well one way to look at it is this. You may have some more growing to do in the near future.
If I can find some refrence material (web site) that I have misplaced. I may have a better answer for you.
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(02-07-2010, 09:23 PM)Cheryl1989 Wrote: Hi everyone, as far as i know male and female chests are identical, its only when puberty starts and a woman starts to produce estrogen and other hormones that the breast and nipples develop. So if a man develops breasts they are identical inside to that of a womans, now the problem is alot of men have so many other hormones in there body like testosterone that when they do want to develop breasts many find it hard or develop breasts which are not fully formed due to these male hormones blocking the results and ofcourse the older they get the more the body struggles to use estrogen to develop breasts that why many trans women who began hormone treatment in there teens tend to develop full female breasts, and the older you get the least chance you have to become fully developed. It actually amazes me that something like hormones can change so much and are so powerful. i often wonder how i managed to develop so well and the answer my specialist gives is, i am lucky and was born to be a woman lol so i feel so grateful for everything i have gained and all in a natural way.
Hugs Cheryl xxxx
i wanna become a member of your site please cheryl please
