Morning All .....
Isabelle I was reading over some of my old notes and I found something in an old PM that got me wondering ....
Here's what it said ....
"Xanthohumol … this is an anti-androgen (blocks 5AR) plus it contains a weak phyto-estrogen (but lots of it) . The phyto-estrogen in xanthohumol, although weak, is a stronger binder to the estrogen receptors. As long as xanthohumol is on the receptors, it will inhibit estradiol converting estrogens from binding to the receptors. On the board, we know it takes a week to a month to clear the receptors. So what you do is take hops with a light meal. That will allow your body to metabolize the xanthohumol phyto-estrogens into a form of 8-prenylnaringenin …. Which is converted into Estradiol … good for NBE"
This sounds like if I take Hops with Water it kinda defeats the purpose (effectiveness) of then taking it with a meal to force digestion since the receptors will have already been bound to the xanthohumol preventing it from binding to the 8-prenylnaringenin.
Have you seen anything new on this? Or maybe taking "both" ways may not be a good idea ....
Could this also prevent the Estradiol that is created from the Testim from binding to the receptors? Or is that more of a "phtyo-estrogen binding" concern than estradiol that is being converted directly from Testosterone?
Thoughts .....
Karen
Isabelle I was reading over some of my old notes and I found something in an old PM that got me wondering ....
Here's what it said ....
"Xanthohumol … this is an anti-androgen (blocks 5AR) plus it contains a weak phyto-estrogen (but lots of it) . The phyto-estrogen in xanthohumol, although weak, is a stronger binder to the estrogen receptors. As long as xanthohumol is on the receptors, it will inhibit estradiol converting estrogens from binding to the receptors. On the board, we know it takes a week to a month to clear the receptors. So what you do is take hops with a light meal. That will allow your body to metabolize the xanthohumol phyto-estrogens into a form of 8-prenylnaringenin …. Which is converted into Estradiol … good for NBE"
This sounds like if I take Hops with Water it kinda defeats the purpose (effectiveness) of then taking it with a meal to force digestion since the receptors will have already been bound to the xanthohumol preventing it from binding to the 8-prenylnaringenin.
Have you seen anything new on this? Or maybe taking "both" ways may not be a good idea ....
Could this also prevent the Estradiol that is created from the Testim from binding to the receptors? Or is that more of a "phtyo-estrogen binding" concern than estradiol that is being converted directly from Testosterone?
Thoughts .....
Karen