25-06-2012, 09:24 PM
Yes mochaccino,
Menohop contains a probiotic. It colonizes the large intestine with Eubacterium Limosum, which makes 8-prenylnaringenin from isoxanthohumol. Chocolate is used as a carrier to get the bacterium through the stomach alive.
Even if I take only 2,500 mg of fenugreek, I never get estrogen dominance symptoms, because my natural estrogens are low. You may get headaches on days 25-11. If a reasonable dose of fenugreek doesn't help, add fennel seed tea.
For me, the xanthohumol in hops is sufficient to lower DHT: I hardly ever get pimples, even at only 1,800 mg hops. Eve M took barley grass and borage oil too. I bought both, but never used them. She squeezed a 1,000 mg borage oil softgel in her topical. For the barley grass dose, check her program page. I think it was about 1,000 mg. The problem with hops is that you can't just increase the dose if you get androgen symptoms: it will affect your mood. That's why in the beginning, I used to keep a stash of other anti-androgens like barley grass and borage oil as an emergency cabinet, just in case I would break out or lose hair or something. I never used them, and now I keep just the barley grass for you-never-know. Gave away the borage oil, tossed the SP/PB/PSO formula.
If you inhibit the formation of DHT from testosterone, you increase testosterone and estrogens, yes. That's what you want. You may grow muscle a little easier in the gym, but if you don't want that, just moderate your exercise program, or target only butt and pecs. The problem starts because hops is depressing at the dose I take. Then I take maca because there is an antidepressant in it that works very well with hops for me. Only, some women break out on maca. I never did, but then my body was once used to much higher DHT than what I have left now.
1:4 of 2,000 mg is 500 mg extract. An advantage of extracts is that they are made using alcohol. You get less sleepy than on the raw hops, and maybe less depressed too.
Menohop contains a probiotic. It colonizes the large intestine with Eubacterium Limosum, which makes 8-prenylnaringenin from isoxanthohumol. Chocolate is used as a carrier to get the bacterium through the stomach alive.
Even if I take only 2,500 mg of fenugreek, I never get estrogen dominance symptoms, because my natural estrogens are low. You may get headaches on days 25-11. If a reasonable dose of fenugreek doesn't help, add fennel seed tea.
For me, the xanthohumol in hops is sufficient to lower DHT: I hardly ever get pimples, even at only 1,800 mg hops. Eve M took barley grass and borage oil too. I bought both, but never used them. She squeezed a 1,000 mg borage oil softgel in her topical. For the barley grass dose, check her program page. I think it was about 1,000 mg. The problem with hops is that you can't just increase the dose if you get androgen symptoms: it will affect your mood. That's why in the beginning, I used to keep a stash of other anti-androgens like barley grass and borage oil as an emergency cabinet, just in case I would break out or lose hair or something. I never used them, and now I keep just the barley grass for you-never-know. Gave away the borage oil, tossed the SP/PB/PSO formula.
If you inhibit the formation of DHT from testosterone, you increase testosterone and estrogens, yes. That's what you want. You may grow muscle a little easier in the gym, but if you don't want that, just moderate your exercise program, or target only butt and pecs. The problem starts because hops is depressing at the dose I take. Then I take maca because there is an antidepressant in it that works very well with hops for me. Only, some women break out on maca. I never did, but then my body was once used to much higher DHT than what I have left now.
1:4 of 2,000 mg is 500 mg extract. An advantage of extracts is that they are made using alcohol. You get less sleepy than on the raw hops, and maybe less depressed too.