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What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 8 2007 at 2:47 PM momXseven (Login momXseven)
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I would like to add more protein to my diet but all the protein shacks are high in calories, I can't add more calories. I'm trying my best to loss this last bit of weight that I have been trying to loss this past year. I know I can just eat more protein rich foods but being a mommy of seven kids I don't have time to fix there meals and than something different for me. Anyone know of a protein shack that is not high in calories (that also taste good)? I would love it if someone would just come out with protein pills, LOL.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 8 2007, 5:22 PM
This site is UK only so I think you'd pay a lot for shipping but see if you can get the same stuff in the US - it's basically powdered milk without the milk taste, you can make a shake or just mix it in any wet foods, it's genuinely tasteless.
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/...ncentrate/
The only calories in this stuff are the calories you get if your body is burning the excess protein as a food source:
For 30g serving:
Energy 111.0cal
Energy 464.0kJ
Protein (dry basis) 26.2g
Protein (as-is) 24.9g
Lactose (Carbs) 1.3g
Fat 0.5g
Calcium 639.0mg
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 8 2007, 9:25 PM
Thank you Louise, this sounds like what I want.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 3:47 AM
I've been drinking Special K's Protein water. I'm not sure if you are in the US or UK, but it's got 5 grams of protein and only 30 calories per serving. It doesn't taste bad either.
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November 9 2007, 12:43 PM
My brother used to be a body builder, he always tanked up on tuna and raw eggs. No, I couldn't do the raw eggs either. But tuna on the side with a salad everyday I could do. Canned Tuna, packed in salt water, low on the salt could be an option if your a fish person.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 2:15 PM
Thank you momtoo6, My only thing about the Special K's Protein water is that isn't ONLY 5 grams of protein. I'm trying to add about 40 grams. I would have to drink 8 of these a day if this was the only thing I did to add protein, it's great for when I'm going to be drinking some thing anyway but I can't relay on the Special K only.
Thank you Snowflake, I'm not a fish person but I do try to eat tuna now and than.
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November 9 2007, 2:29 PM
Hi,
I've been makine my own jello with a sugar free drink (or maybe fresh lemon juice and stevia)plus unlfavored gelatin. Gelatin has surprisingly a fairly high amount of protein, plus it is a sugar free treat, and I believe gelatin is good for boobie growth.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 2:51 PM
myjourney I was taking gelatin caps but didn't know they had protein, I guess I should add them back in.
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November 9 2007, 2:55 PM
Hi,
my box of knox (Dr. suess!!!) Says a quarter package has 2g of protein. But to make jello, I use 4 packages...so that means 32g of protein for a small batch of jello. Thats pretty good! I don't know how much the pills have...does it say on the bottle?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 3:02 PM
one of the best things for protein is egg whites, egg whites have only 15 calories per large egg and 6g of protein, its the egg yolk that has all the calories and fat and it doesnt have protein, oh and it doesn't have to be raw, a lot of body builders make a big omelette or scrambled egg or something with around 6 egg whites, some of them would add one or two of the yolks to it as well for more flavour, eggs are so cheap too, also like someone said before eat lots of tuna, some cereals have a lot more protein than others like special k for example
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 3:27 PM
myjourney, no it doesn't say. This is the one I have.
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?pro...age=family
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November 9 2007, 3:38 PM
Hi,
I found this on that web page...
778mg. or 12 grains of pure natural source gelatin
My package says that 1/4 pack equals 1.8g which have 2g of protein. maybe you can convert the mg to grams and make a comparison?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 6:41 PM
That's 0.778g so roughly half maybe equivalent to 3.5g protein assuming they haven't done anything to it. You're right about the egg whites - all the protein and no fat, the white is going to become the chicken and the yolk is it's food source. Scrambled egg with white only isn't very nice though - better hardboiled and put in salad or sandwich.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 21 2007, 7:56 PM
MomXseven - Have a look at Gatorade as recommended on the other protein post, sounds like what I have but US source.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 21 2007, 9:51 PM
Louise
Gatorade does not have protein at all.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 21 2007, 10:03 PM
Sorry, it was Naturade! Close!
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 21 2007, 11:07 PM
I use Naturade Veg protein booster. It provides 48g of protein for about 218 calories. I just cut out 200 or so calories from the rest of my diet so as not to gain weight. I use the plain kind but it does come in other flavours. Their website is www.naturade.com. Mine comes from the local Wal-mart so it's not hard to find.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 2:12 AM
I'll look into that, thank you.
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November 22 2007, 9:54 AM
One of my friends had fibroids in her uterus but it all of sudden grew more than double in size just within months and then her doctor had it removed for her. My friend suspected that she had taken too much protein - 2 egg whites each day. I also have fibroids in my uterus and I am worried that by taking more protein might make it grow. Do you think this is possible?
PH
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 6:19 PM
Difficult to say but I think combining protein with estrogenic hormones may be a bad idea, as estrogen encourages growth of the breast and uterine tissue (healthy cells or otherwise) and protein gives the building blocks to do it so if your friend's hormone levels were quite high I guess that couldv'e caused it. Are you under regular medical follow-up to check if it's progressing? I'd say you may be safer with some of the suction devices as they work (or don't for everyone) only on the breast.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 6:35 PM
Louise- Which estrogenic herbs do you mean? I had no idea that eating more protein could be such a bad thing... Now you've got me worried!
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November 22 2007, 7:59 PM
Fenugreek, fennel, red clover, soy, hops, PM, ? ginseng, ? barley, ? oats.....nearly all of the NBE herbs are estrogenic which means that technically if you had low body estrogen and a hormone regulated tumour you would encourage tumour growth. Similarly if you have higher natural hormones the NBE herbs are protective as they are weaker than natural hormones but block the hormone receptors so you'll discourage tumour growth. To put it in perspective though what you get in your 6 wonderup tablets is tiny compared to 1 birth control pill and even that is tiny compared to the hormone levels in your body so it shouldn't make any difference. We use protein for growth and repair so technically you could probably stop tumour cells reproducing by totally avoiding any protein but then you wouldn't be able to regenerate the healthy cells you need for your blood, organs, skin etc. It's all so different for each individual and you'll probably never know exactly where you stand medically without loads of blood tests and a full body MRI but generally I think the herbs are more likely to be weaker than stronger so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 8:29 PM
Okay you had more worried there for a minute but thanks for the quick reply as usual Louise
good luck
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 4:29 PM
I'm on Weight Watchers and I was also looking for a protein shake that was low on calories and high on protein. Nature's Plus has different ones that are mostly under 200 calories.
http://www.naturesplus.com/products/cate...mber=45941
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 4:59 PM
I think the best way would be too look through different protein powders and compare protein content to calory value. I'v noticed that they vary quite a lot, from some that have only like 5% protein content to the highest I found was one third. But the highest the protein content the more yucky they tend to taste.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 5:05 PM
I think the one I use should be at the top of this thread and it's about 97% protein (obviously if you make the shake out of it and use full fat milk there will be more calories but I just put it in food). Also you have to consider the type of protein you're getting because the body uses some better than others - I think egg source is best then milk or whey, soy comes a lot further down because it's a veg source, there's another post here somewhere where Waxingmoon gives better info about this.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 5:16 PM
Just a general FYI about protein.
We must have protein to live. Many tissues, hormones and enzymes in our body are protein based.
If your protein level drops too low, your body begins to fail. If you don't get all the essential amino acids you need your body begins to fail. Essential amino acids are found in complete proteins (animal products) and by combining incomplete proteins (beans and rice, etc).
The World Health Organization has estimated that people need to have a diet of 10% protein in order to be healthy. This would mean a person eating 1500 calories per day would have to have 38 grams of protein per day to equal that 10%. But this is the bare minimum. The US RDA for protein is more like 15% - which in the above example would be 56 grams of protein minimum. For athletes and those who are recovering from illness, the recommended amount of protein is 30% - or 112 grams of protein.
That's just for a 1500 calorie diet.
For 1800 calories your protein needs are (10%) 45 grams, (15%) 68 grams and (30%) 135 grams.
For 2000 calories it is (10%) 50 grams, (15%) 75 grams and (30%) 150 grams.
For NBE we should be somewhere between the 15% and 30% amount of protein to achieve the best growth.
A whole egg has 6 grams of protein.
Egg white = 3 grams
3-4 oz of fish, chicken or beef = about 20 grams
8 oz of milk = 10 grams
1 cup of beans with 1 cup of rice = 25 grams
1 scoop of whey protein = 16 grams
So, in the above post where someone's friend had 2 egg white a day - she was increasing her protein by 6 grams - not in anyway 'too much' protein.
Hope this is some help,
waxingmoon
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November 26 2007, 1:43 AM
The easiest way I have found to get enough protein is eating tuna for lunch. I buy the tuna chunks in brine (tinned) and 200g of tuna equals about 44g protein and is about 190 calories. I also eat two eggs for breakfast and eat chicken or beef for dinner each night. I know tuna isn't to everyone's taste, but I like it with a bit of low fat mayo - yum and my protein needs and my lunch are taken care of - not keen on protein shakes at all. Just my two cents worth !!!!
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 26 2007, 5:36 AM
Waxingmoon, I'm sure an egg white has more protein than that - more like 6-8g (isn't all the protein in the white bit that would become a new chicken and all the fat in te yolk which is upoosed to be its food source?)
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November 26 2007, 3:23 PM
Louise,
Unless that is one HUGE chicken (lol), then the egg white is only 3 grams. An average whole egg is a total of 6 grams. While it is true the egg white is pure protein, the egg yolk has an equal amount of protein along with fat and cholesterol.
waxingmoon
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November 26 2007, 4:10 PM
According to the American Egg Board (thought I would just go to the source of all this talk) "One egg provides 6 grams of protein, or 12% of the Recommended Daily Value." http://www.aeb.org/Nutrition/Protien_Wei...ement.html
And to be more specific, the egg white has 3.66 grams and the yolk typically has 2.7 grams. http://www.aeb.org/Nutrition/images/PDF/...ge_Egg.pdf
Hope that helped, good luck everyone
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 28 2007, 7:35 PM
I just found CytoSport Protein Pure Performance Drink , it has only 160 calories and 40 grams of protein per 20oz drink. Also has 0 crabs & 0 sugar! It's pricey, so far I found it at GNC at $42.99 for 12 bottles, that's about $3.60 each and you only need 1 per day. I'm going to keep looking for a better price.
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?pro...30.2108256
Just want to add that I have found this much cheaper after Googleing it. Not sure on the lowest price but I have seen it for $20 something for 12 bottles.
If you want to get just 1 bottle to try it I found where you can buy 1 bottle at $3.95 each, this comes in 3 flavors, watermelon, tangerine & tropical. Shipping is a bit high for just 3 bottles at $6.95.
http://www.nashuanutrition.com/store/ind...uct_id=343
This message has been edited by momXseven on Nov 28, 2007 8:06 PM
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November 29 2007, 6:43 AM
there are so many different protein powders, one is bound to find something that suits both one's taste and nutritional preference. whey, soy, spirulina, you name it. i mix my (brown rice) protein powder in my (soy) milk. mixes pretty well; tastes pretty good too. may sound like an overkill but a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do for bigger boobs.
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December 5 2007, 12:54 AM
I found something I LOVE, It's Isopure made by Nature's Best. It's 40 grams protein & 160 calories per 20 oz and they taste good. The local GNC is giving me a deal at $3.00 each.
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?pro...age=search
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 5 2007, 1:23 AM
how many grams of protein is needed daily for nbe?
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December 5 2007, 3:05 AM
As far as how much protein we need, this is what I found online (I can't say for just NBE).......
Q: How much protein do I really need to eat every day?
A: If you're mildly active (you exercise three times a week for 30-60 minutes), you probably don't need more than the RDA -- 0.4 grams per pound of ideal body weight, says Melinda Manore, Ph.D. To calculate your daily protein needs in grams, multiply your weight by 0.4. (For a 145-pound woman, that's 58 grams, or 12-15 percent of total daily calories.)
If you're moderately active (you exercise four to six days a week for 30-60 minutes), you may need slightly more -- from 0.6-0.7 grams. (That's 87-101.5 grams, or about 20 percent of total daily calories, for a 145-pound woman.)
If you're highly active (you exercise daily for an hour or more) you may need even more protein than that -- from 0.9-1 gram. (For a 145-pound woman, that's 130.5-145 grams, or about 30 percent of total daily calories.)
You also may need this amount if you are recovering from a serious illness or exercising at higher altitudes than usual -- for example, you're backpacking at 7,000 feet but live at sea level. At higher altitudes, your body is deprived of oxygen until you adapt, placing a stress on all systems and increasing cellular damage. Protein helps protect and repair cells while your body acclimates, which can take several weeks.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 5 2007, 3:45 AM
This may be a bit off the topic. I understand that certain weight is necessary to achieve goals in NBE. I, a mother of 3 and approaching 40 years old, already have a round tummy, although my breast size is pathetic, 34AA. So I don't want to add the weight to the wrong place. It's disheartening to hear that weight loss comes from the breast first, which makes me wonder if weight gain will go to the breast last! I am afraid that the easiest answer to this question is "everybody is built differently, so there is no tell how your body will respond" or "there is no way to isolate weight gain or weight loss - it will just spread over your body the way your genetic programming dictates". But I want to see if anyone out there has any good ideas - not gaining weight at all, or at least not in the tummy, but increase the breast size. Thanks.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 9:46 PM
have you tried skin brushing? I am already losing inches off my thighs and waist but have not lost any weight at all, dont ever exercise or diet. so I think it must be from combination of skin brushing and taking herbs to lower stress levels. (stress is believed to cause weight gain in tummy and lower body).
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 9:48 PM
momxseven, so if we are not exercising but only doing nbe do you think we need more than the RDA?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 10:41 PM
Kieyah - I know this wasn't addressed to me but Waxingmoon gave very specific advice about protein and calorie needs for NBE without weight gain in a post I started about a week or so ago, I think she recommended 30% of your total calories from protein but you might want to check.
What herbs do you recommend for stress? - I've got a lot of stressful things happening but don't feel stressed.
What exactly is your method for dry brushing? Do you do it every day? How long for? Have you tried negative magnetic fields for fat busting?
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December 6 2007, 10:44 PM
kieyah, I haven't really heard of "skin brushing", I just googled it so know that I know of it I'll try it.
I can't really say about the needing more or lose protein, I don't understand it yet.
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December 6 2007, 11:30 PM
awesome, thanks louise! I will check it out.
on the skin brushing I just do about 3-5 strokes each toward the breast area, so for legs and butt would go upwards and for back I go downwards, tummy upwards, arms overhead goes downwards. Only takes a couple minutes. I use a natural bristled brush the kind in the natual health section ment for cleaning your back in the shower. make sure it is dry. 3-5 strokes upward from ankle to knee, move over a couple inches, 3 more strokes, and so on all the way around. when I don't have much time i only do inner thighs and butt. I try to do every evening before bed or before shower, you can do twice daily though, it is very relaxing. I lost circumfrence from my waist, thighs and also the lump of fat behind my hips that never goes away even when I weighed 20lbs less then I do now. I can't measure this part but I can see it is gone when I skin brush. when I forget to do it for a while the hip fat starts coming back. It is not ment for weight loss. maybe it is just tightening the skin, but I know my waist and thigh measurments have gone down without diet or exercise so something is up with this stuff.
If you don't feel stressed, then you probably don't need anything. I take 5-htp, st johns wort, and licorice root. I think 5-htp is the best out of these. though I don't think it is for long-term use.
I had a thought on the skin brushing as to why it may be working to reduce my thighs and hip fat, maybe it is releasing the fluid retention. if this is the case, it would make sence that it would come back when I quit for a while.
November 8 2007 at 2:47 PM momXseven (Login momXseven)
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I would like to add more protein to my diet but all the protein shacks are high in calories, I can't add more calories. I'm trying my best to loss this last bit of weight that I have been trying to loss this past year. I know I can just eat more protein rich foods but being a mommy of seven kids I don't have time to fix there meals and than something different for me. Anyone know of a protein shack that is not high in calories (that also taste good)? I would love it if someone would just come out with protein pills, LOL.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 8 2007, 5:22 PM
This site is UK only so I think you'd pay a lot for shipping but see if you can get the same stuff in the US - it's basically powdered milk without the milk taste, you can make a shake or just mix it in any wet foods, it's genuinely tasteless.
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/...ncentrate/
The only calories in this stuff are the calories you get if your body is burning the excess protein as a food source:
For 30g serving:
Energy 111.0cal
Energy 464.0kJ
Protein (dry basis) 26.2g
Protein (as-is) 24.9g
Lactose (Carbs) 1.3g
Fat 0.5g
Calcium 639.0mg
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 8 2007, 9:25 PM
Thank you Louise, this sounds like what I want.
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November 9 2007, 3:47 AM
I've been drinking Special K's Protein water. I'm not sure if you are in the US or UK, but it's got 5 grams of protein and only 30 calories per serving. It doesn't taste bad either.
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November 9 2007, 12:43 PM
My brother used to be a body builder, he always tanked up on tuna and raw eggs. No, I couldn't do the raw eggs either. But tuna on the side with a salad everyday I could do. Canned Tuna, packed in salt water, low on the salt could be an option if your a fish person.
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November 9 2007, 2:15 PM
Thank you momtoo6, My only thing about the Special K's Protein water is that isn't ONLY 5 grams of protein. I'm trying to add about 40 grams. I would have to drink 8 of these a day if this was the only thing I did to add protein, it's great for when I'm going to be drinking some thing anyway but I can't relay on the Special K only.
Thank you Snowflake, I'm not a fish person but I do try to eat tuna now and than.
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November 9 2007, 2:29 PM
Hi,
I've been makine my own jello with a sugar free drink (or maybe fresh lemon juice and stevia)plus unlfavored gelatin. Gelatin has surprisingly a fairly high amount of protein, plus it is a sugar free treat, and I believe gelatin is good for boobie growth.
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November 9 2007, 2:51 PM
myjourney I was taking gelatin caps but didn't know they had protein, I guess I should add them back in.
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November 9 2007, 2:55 PM
Hi,
my box of knox (Dr. suess!!!) Says a quarter package has 2g of protein. But to make jello, I use 4 packages...so that means 32g of protein for a small batch of jello. Thats pretty good! I don't know how much the pills have...does it say on the bottle?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 9 2007, 3:02 PM
one of the best things for protein is egg whites, egg whites have only 15 calories per large egg and 6g of protein, its the egg yolk that has all the calories and fat and it doesnt have protein, oh and it doesn't have to be raw, a lot of body builders make a big omelette or scrambled egg or something with around 6 egg whites, some of them would add one or two of the yolks to it as well for more flavour, eggs are so cheap too, also like someone said before eat lots of tuna, some cereals have a lot more protein than others like special k for example
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November 9 2007, 3:27 PM
myjourney, no it doesn't say. This is the one I have.
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?pro...age=family
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November 9 2007, 3:38 PM
Hi,
I found this on that web page...
778mg. or 12 grains of pure natural source gelatin
My package says that 1/4 pack equals 1.8g which have 2g of protein. maybe you can convert the mg to grams and make a comparison?
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November 9 2007, 6:41 PM
That's 0.778g so roughly half maybe equivalent to 3.5g protein assuming they haven't done anything to it. You're right about the egg whites - all the protein and no fat, the white is going to become the chicken and the yolk is it's food source. Scrambled egg with white only isn't very nice though - better hardboiled and put in salad or sandwich.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 21 2007, 7:56 PM
MomXseven - Have a look at Gatorade as recommended on the other protein post, sounds like what I have but US source.
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November 21 2007, 9:51 PM
Louise
Gatorade does not have protein at all.
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November 21 2007, 10:03 PM
Sorry, it was Naturade! Close!
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November 21 2007, 11:07 PM
I use Naturade Veg protein booster. It provides 48g of protein for about 218 calories. I just cut out 200 or so calories from the rest of my diet so as not to gain weight. I use the plain kind but it does come in other flavours. Their website is www.naturade.com. Mine comes from the local Wal-mart so it's not hard to find.
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November 22 2007, 2:12 AM
I'll look into that, thank you.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 9:54 AM
One of my friends had fibroids in her uterus but it all of sudden grew more than double in size just within months and then her doctor had it removed for her. My friend suspected that she had taken too much protein - 2 egg whites each day. I also have fibroids in my uterus and I am worried that by taking more protein might make it grow. Do you think this is possible?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 6:19 PM
Difficult to say but I think combining protein with estrogenic hormones may be a bad idea, as estrogen encourages growth of the breast and uterine tissue (healthy cells or otherwise) and protein gives the building blocks to do it so if your friend's hormone levels were quite high I guess that couldv'e caused it. Are you under regular medical follow-up to check if it's progressing? I'd say you may be safer with some of the suction devices as they work (or don't for everyone) only on the breast.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 6:35 PM
Louise- Which estrogenic herbs do you mean? I had no idea that eating more protein could be such a bad thing... Now you've got me worried!
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 7:59 PM
Fenugreek, fennel, red clover, soy, hops, PM, ? ginseng, ? barley, ? oats.....nearly all of the NBE herbs are estrogenic which means that technically if you had low body estrogen and a hormone regulated tumour you would encourage tumour growth. Similarly if you have higher natural hormones the NBE herbs are protective as they are weaker than natural hormones but block the hormone receptors so you'll discourage tumour growth. To put it in perspective though what you get in your 6 wonderup tablets is tiny compared to 1 birth control pill and even that is tiny compared to the hormone levels in your body so it shouldn't make any difference. We use protein for growth and repair so technically you could probably stop tumour cells reproducing by totally avoiding any protein but then you wouldn't be able to regenerate the healthy cells you need for your blood, organs, skin etc. It's all so different for each individual and you'll probably never know exactly where you stand medically without loads of blood tests and a full body MRI but generally I think the herbs are more likely to be weaker than stronger so it shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 22 2007, 8:29 PM
Okay you had more worried there for a minute but thanks for the quick reply as usual Louise
good luck
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 4:29 PM
I'm on Weight Watchers and I was also looking for a protein shake that was low on calories and high on protein. Nature's Plus has different ones that are mostly under 200 calories.
http://www.naturesplus.com/products/cate...mber=45941
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 4:59 PM
I think the best way would be too look through different protein powders and compare protein content to calory value. I'v noticed that they vary quite a lot, from some that have only like 5% protein content to the highest I found was one third. But the highest the protein content the more yucky they tend to taste.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 5:05 PM
I think the one I use should be at the top of this thread and it's about 97% protein (obviously if you make the shake out of it and use full fat milk there will be more calories but I just put it in food). Also you have to consider the type of protein you're getting because the body uses some better than others - I think egg source is best then milk or whey, soy comes a lot further down because it's a veg source, there's another post here somewhere where Waxingmoon gives better info about this.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 25 2007, 5:16 PM
Just a general FYI about protein.
We must have protein to live. Many tissues, hormones and enzymes in our body are protein based.
If your protein level drops too low, your body begins to fail. If you don't get all the essential amino acids you need your body begins to fail. Essential amino acids are found in complete proteins (animal products) and by combining incomplete proteins (beans and rice, etc).
The World Health Organization has estimated that people need to have a diet of 10% protein in order to be healthy. This would mean a person eating 1500 calories per day would have to have 38 grams of protein per day to equal that 10%. But this is the bare minimum. The US RDA for protein is more like 15% - which in the above example would be 56 grams of protein minimum. For athletes and those who are recovering from illness, the recommended amount of protein is 30% - or 112 grams of protein.
That's just for a 1500 calorie diet.
For 1800 calories your protein needs are (10%) 45 grams, (15%) 68 grams and (30%) 135 grams.
For 2000 calories it is (10%) 50 grams, (15%) 75 grams and (30%) 150 grams.
For NBE we should be somewhere between the 15% and 30% amount of protein to achieve the best growth.
A whole egg has 6 grams of protein.
Egg white = 3 grams
3-4 oz of fish, chicken or beef = about 20 grams
8 oz of milk = 10 grams
1 cup of beans with 1 cup of rice = 25 grams
1 scoop of whey protein = 16 grams
So, in the above post where someone's friend had 2 egg white a day - she was increasing her protein by 6 grams - not in anyway 'too much' protein.
Hope this is some help,
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November 26 2007, 1:43 AM
The easiest way I have found to get enough protein is eating tuna for lunch. I buy the tuna chunks in brine (tinned) and 200g of tuna equals about 44g protein and is about 190 calories. I also eat two eggs for breakfast and eat chicken or beef for dinner each night. I know tuna isn't to everyone's taste, but I like it with a bit of low fat mayo - yum and my protein needs and my lunch are taken care of - not keen on protein shakes at all. Just my two cents worth !!!!
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 26 2007, 5:36 AM
Waxingmoon, I'm sure an egg white has more protein than that - more like 6-8g (isn't all the protein in the white bit that would become a new chicken and all the fat in te yolk which is upoosed to be its food source?)
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 26 2007, 3:23 PM
Louise,
Unless that is one HUGE chicken (lol), then the egg white is only 3 grams. An average whole egg is a total of 6 grams. While it is true the egg white is pure protein, the egg yolk has an equal amount of protein along with fat and cholesterol.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 26 2007, 4:10 PM
According to the American Egg Board (thought I would just go to the source of all this talk) "One egg provides 6 grams of protein, or 12% of the Recommended Daily Value." http://www.aeb.org/Nutrition/Protien_Wei...ement.html
And to be more specific, the egg white has 3.66 grams and the yolk typically has 2.7 grams. http://www.aeb.org/Nutrition/images/PDF/...ge_Egg.pdf
Hope that helped, good luck everyone
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 28 2007, 7:35 PM
I just found CytoSport Protein Pure Performance Drink , it has only 160 calories and 40 grams of protein per 20oz drink. Also has 0 crabs & 0 sugar! It's pricey, so far I found it at GNC at $42.99 for 12 bottles, that's about $3.60 each and you only need 1 per day. I'm going to keep looking for a better price.
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?pro...30.2108256
Just want to add that I have found this much cheaper after Googleing it. Not sure on the lowest price but I have seen it for $20 something for 12 bottles.
If you want to get just 1 bottle to try it I found where you can buy 1 bottle at $3.95 each, this comes in 3 flavors, watermelon, tangerine & tropical. Shipping is a bit high for just 3 bottles at $6.95.
http://www.nashuanutrition.com/store/ind...uct_id=343
This message has been edited by momXseven on Nov 28, 2007 8:06 PM
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
November 29 2007, 6:43 AM
there are so many different protein powders, one is bound to find something that suits both one's taste and nutritional preference. whey, soy, spirulina, you name it. i mix my (brown rice) protein powder in my (soy) milk. mixes pretty well; tastes pretty good too. may sound like an overkill but a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do for bigger boobs.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 5 2007, 12:54 AM
I found something I LOVE, It's Isopure made by Nature's Best. It's 40 grams protein & 160 calories per 20 oz and they taste good. The local GNC is giving me a deal at $3.00 each.
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?pro...age=search
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 5 2007, 1:23 AM
how many grams of protein is needed daily for nbe?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 5 2007, 3:05 AM
As far as how much protein we need, this is what I found online (I can't say for just NBE).......
Q: How much protein do I really need to eat every day?
A: If you're mildly active (you exercise three times a week for 30-60 minutes), you probably don't need more than the RDA -- 0.4 grams per pound of ideal body weight, says Melinda Manore, Ph.D. To calculate your daily protein needs in grams, multiply your weight by 0.4. (For a 145-pound woman, that's 58 grams, or 12-15 percent of total daily calories.)
If you're moderately active (you exercise four to six days a week for 30-60 minutes), you may need slightly more -- from 0.6-0.7 grams. (That's 87-101.5 grams, or about 20 percent of total daily calories, for a 145-pound woman.)
If you're highly active (you exercise daily for an hour or more) you may need even more protein than that -- from 0.9-1 gram. (For a 145-pound woman, that's 130.5-145 grams, or about 30 percent of total daily calories.)
You also may need this amount if you are recovering from a serious illness or exercising at higher altitudes than usual -- for example, you're backpacking at 7,000 feet but live at sea level. At higher altitudes, your body is deprived of oxygen until you adapt, placing a stress on all systems and increasing cellular damage. Protein helps protect and repair cells while your body acclimates, which can take several weeks.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 5 2007, 3:45 AM
This may be a bit off the topic. I understand that certain weight is necessary to achieve goals in NBE. I, a mother of 3 and approaching 40 years old, already have a round tummy, although my breast size is pathetic, 34AA. So I don't want to add the weight to the wrong place. It's disheartening to hear that weight loss comes from the breast first, which makes me wonder if weight gain will go to the breast last! I am afraid that the easiest answer to this question is "everybody is built differently, so there is no tell how your body will respond" or "there is no way to isolate weight gain or weight loss - it will just spread over your body the way your genetic programming dictates". But I want to see if anyone out there has any good ideas - not gaining weight at all, or at least not in the tummy, but increase the breast size. Thanks.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 9:46 PM
have you tried skin brushing? I am already losing inches off my thighs and waist but have not lost any weight at all, dont ever exercise or diet. so I think it must be from combination of skin brushing and taking herbs to lower stress levels. (stress is believed to cause weight gain in tummy and lower body).
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 9:48 PM
momxseven, so if we are not exercising but only doing nbe do you think we need more than the RDA?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 10:41 PM
Kieyah - I know this wasn't addressed to me but Waxingmoon gave very specific advice about protein and calorie needs for NBE without weight gain in a post I started about a week or so ago, I think she recommended 30% of your total calories from protein but you might want to check.
What herbs do you recommend for stress? - I've got a lot of stressful things happening but don't feel stressed.
What exactly is your method for dry brushing? Do you do it every day? How long for? Have you tried negative magnetic fields for fat busting?
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 10:44 PM
kieyah, I haven't really heard of "skin brushing", I just googled it so know that I know of it I'll try it.
I can't really say about the needing more or lose protein, I don't understand it yet.
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Re: What's the best why to add protein but not calories?
December 6 2007, 11:30 PM
awesome, thanks louise! I will check it out.
on the skin brushing I just do about 3-5 strokes each toward the breast area, so for legs and butt would go upwards and for back I go downwards, tummy upwards, arms overhead goes downwards. Only takes a couple minutes. I use a natural bristled brush the kind in the natual health section ment for cleaning your back in the shower. make sure it is dry. 3-5 strokes upward from ankle to knee, move over a couple inches, 3 more strokes, and so on all the way around. when I don't have much time i only do inner thighs and butt. I try to do every evening before bed or before shower, you can do twice daily though, it is very relaxing. I lost circumfrence from my waist, thighs and also the lump of fat behind my hips that never goes away even when I weighed 20lbs less then I do now. I can't measure this part but I can see it is gone when I skin brush. when I forget to do it for a while the hip fat starts coming back. It is not ment for weight loss. maybe it is just tightening the skin, but I know my waist and thigh measurments have gone down without diet or exercise so something is up with this stuff.
If you don't feel stressed, then you probably don't need anything. I take 5-htp, st johns wort, and licorice root. I think 5-htp is the best out of these. though I don't think it is for long-term use.
I had a thought on the skin brushing as to why it may be working to reduce my thighs and hip fat, maybe it is releasing the fluid retention. if this is the case, it would make sence that it would come back when I quit for a while.