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help - all changes are gone :( :(

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Hi all Smile
First of all..I love this forum Smile All the people here are so nice and obliging!!!
It's really impressive and encouraging what lots of people have already reached with NBE !

Ok but now back to my real question^^
After reading a lot in this forum,I've done a hormonal imbalance test (online) and found out that I'm probably estrogen dominant.
As I have underdeveloped breasts and a lot of other signs that match to estrogen dominance,I tried some progesterone boosters.
Last month I started with fenugreek and experienced definately fuller breasts (they looked more round instead of conical!) .
I was soooo happy...!
But suddenly,short time before my menstruation began (first time I had no PMS Smile ! ) my breasts went back to normal Sad
Now it's day 9 of the second cycle I try NBE,I added fennel,Evening primrose oil capsules and Vitex agnus castus and I listen every night to Blaketalks and massage my breasts.
But they are still smaller (and again more conical) than they were during my first cycle of fenugreek and I don't feel any growing pains.
Also I have the most painful headaches I've ever had (even wondering if this could be migraine?!)...
I searched a lot in the forum but couldn't find any reason for this - maybe it's too much progesterone?
Therefore I drunk hops tea yesterday but nothing changed...
I'm very desperate now and my headaches are killing me Sad Sad
What am I doing wrong? Sad
I just want to have normal breasts,that's all I'm wishing for Sad
It would be very nice if anyone could help me !!!
...And sorry for the long post...

Thanks in advance!
Love <3
Janelana
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#2

Hey Janelana,

Don't worry, I felt the same a couple of months ago when I started NBE. I started with Wild Yam, Fenugreek, Saw Palmetto, Ginkgo Biloba and a few other things for health/to assist with growing new breast cells (i.e. flax seed oil, multi, MSM and GABA). I'm not completely sure if those other supplements actually helped NBE but it did make my skin smoother and lashes longer.

I'm pretty sure I've been told that Fenugreek can cause headaches, a quick fix for that is supposed to be a sugary snack and a better fix is to eat slow burning carbs (I thinkDodgy). Take a look at my page, I do think that during my first 2 months of NBE my breasts were conical, now they're are starting to round out a little. I do think that noogling also made a difference.

But I have a question for you, if you are estrogen dominant why did you drink hops tea? And why did you decide to take vitex?
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#3

Hey Brilaw Smile

Thanks for your reply,and thanks for the hint with the blood sugar thing,I've thought about it and now I'm pretty sure that's the reason for my headaches..
Hmm slow burning carbs would be a good idea,my diet is anyway too unhealthy :O

Just saw your pictures - great progress!!!
I've got a question - the noogling thing,is the progress from noogleberry permanent?

Sorry,I meant estrogen dominant..
I've heard that it can be very helpful to take phytoestrogens even though you have too much estrogen because the phytoestrogens are weaker but dock at the same receptors as the normal estrogen from our body so that our own estrogen,the stronger one,can't dock there ..
That's why I drink the hops tea - but up to now not very often,I'm afraid of gaining weight :/
I thought vitex is good for the progesterone levels,isn't it?


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(08-09-2012, 17:27)janelana Wrote:  I've heard that it can be very helpful to take phytoestrogens even though you have too much estrogen because the phytoestrogens are weaker but dock at the same receptors as the normal estrogen from our body so that our own estrogen,the stronger one,can't dock there ..

Yes I heard the same. I remember reading that somewhere and thinking it seemed quite logical.
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#5

The headaches are a sign that you have overdosed on your PC cream. Hormone supplements are more likely to do harm than good, because no matter how much you use, you never know if they are actually in balance until you screw up your system and start suffering from weird symptoms.

PC cream when taken in too high quantities can cause vein thrombosis (your blood vessels will pop) which is a serious health hazard.

Please stop with PM/PC or anything else that changes your hormone levels. The risks are too great.
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