Milk
January 1 2007 at 11:51 AM Kat (no login)
Hi all!
I seem to remember reading of a woman who increased her breast size simply by drinking a liter or milk every day....anyone heard this too?
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faerycat
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 2:50 PM
I bet that if she did, she ended up with a belly to match.
LOL!!! This is a very interesting read -
http://www.milksucks.co.uk/
Love
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Alcest
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 2:51 PM
Drinking that much milk would do more harm in the end than good. I don't recommend that babe... be careful.
Kat
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 3:56 PM
Really? What can happen?...I drink quite a lot of milk...
Alcest
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 6:52 PM
Well for one, go to the link faerycat posted.
Two, remember that milk (and i'm assuming we're talking cow's milk here) was meant for baby cows to consume, not humans.
Three, there is a myriad of health problems connected with drinking milk, including high levels of cholesterol, obesity and osteoperosis.
The high levels of protein found in milk (because baby cows need LOTS of protein) leech calcium out of human bones. That is why these days health practitioners are saying 'go a little easier on the protein people". Because we are finding out the excess protein causes lots of problems.
And this is not even touching upon the sanitary conditions of what's in our milk these days due to modern factory farming.
faerycat
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 7:13 PM
The fact that it's full of pus and cow blood is enough to make me wretch.....ugh!!
Asides from that, it is high in fats and cholesterol.
How does my diet affect my cholesterol level?
There are two different types of fat, saturated and unsaturated. Animal and dairy foods in particular contain high levels of saturated fat, which can raise cholesterol levels. Therefore, the more of these foods you eat the higher your risk of developing coronary heart disease.
Unsaturated fat includes monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats. These fats have a beneficial effect on cholesterol levels. Monounsaturated fats are contained in olive oil, rapeseed oil and some spreads. Polyunsaturated fats are found in sunflower oil, safflower, corn oil, certain spreads and oily fish.
For this reason it is worth reducing the level of animal and dairy fats in your diet. By modifying your intake of fat, calories and carbohydrates, the level of cholesterol in your blood can be reduced. However, the degree of dietary restriction will depend on your age and condition.
If you smoke you need more fruit and vegetables to safeguard your vitamin intake. If there is a history of heart disease in your family, it is recommended that eat plenty of fruit and vegetables, which are rich in vitamins that may help protect against heart disease. However, there are no short cuts taking a vitamin supplement does not provide the same health benefits.
What foods are high in saturated fats?
Foods that are high in saturated fats that can raise cholesterol include:
Red meat.
Hard cheeses.
Butter.
Cream.
Full-fat milk.
Yogurt.
Lard.
Ice-cream.
Crisps.
Many processed and prepared foods such as pies, biscuits, cakes and burgers also contain large amounts of animal fat. It is worth checking the labels on these foods to determine the type and amount of saturated fat they contain.
What foods are high in cholesterol?
Food high in cholesterol include:
Kidney.
Liver.
Sweetbreads.
Shellfish such as lobster and prawns.
What foods should I consume in moderation?
There are some foods that should be taken in moderation as they can contribute to a high level of cholesterol in the blood. These include:
Meats such as fatty bacon and pork, sausages and black and white pudding.
Cooking fats including lard, dripping and vegetable oils.
Butter, margarine and other spreads.
Milk.
Cream, ice cream, artificial creams and sweet yogurts.
Thick and creamy soups.
Rich sauces and gravies, mayonnaise, and salad cream.
Cheese choose medium and low-fat varieties, and use as an alternative to meat at a meal.
Eggs use a maximum of 4 to 6 a week.
White bread and other white flour products.
Sugar, jam, soft drinks and sweet foods generally.
Foods which contain the above as ingredients, such as pastries, cakes, rich biscuits, chocolate, toffees and sweets.
Salt
While salt itself does not contribute to high cholesterol levels, eating too much can cause high blood pressure that in turn is associated with heart disease and stroke. Therefore, it is worth cutting down on the amount you eat.
Try not to add salt to food to season it, instead try freshly ground pepper or another seasoning.
Keep an eye on the amount of salty meat such as bacon, gammon and ham you eat.
Cut down on salty snacks including crisps and salted nuts.
Check food labels for sodium, salt, sodium chloride, or monosodium glutamate content. Bottled sauces and tinned foods often have a high salt content.
Hope that helps answer your question.
x
waxingmoon
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 7:21 PM
Well now, let't not bash milk too much. It does not 'leach' calcium out of our bones. It and all protein merely interfere with calcium absorption. Protein and calcium compete for the same absorption sites in our intestines, which is why it is always good to take a calcium supplement at night when your stomach is empty and you will have a good long time without eating for that calcium to be absorbed.
There are many things that cause calcium depletion. Lack of available calcium in our diets, lack of exercise to stimulate bone building, hormone imbalances, lack of vitamin D and Vitamin C which are essential for bone building... the list goes on and on. And don't think you can avoid the calcium problem by getting it from green leafy vegetables. They do contain calcium, but they also have high amounts of oxalates and phytates that are undigestible and interfere with calcium absorption. Also, use of caffeine products causes the body to secrete large amounts of calcium, so if you do coffee or colas, you are helping reduce your body stores.
The biggest reason not to drink so much milk is that we have limited supplies of digestive enzymes. If you have ancestry that came from 'herding' cultures, then you are likely to have sufficient enzymes to deal with about 8 to 16 oz of milk per meal without a problem. But some are lactose intolerant and will have trouble digesting more than 8 oz per day. This can cause bloating and other digestive problems. Very few people are actually allergic to milk, which can be a minor problem up to a life threatening problem just like any other food allergy.
I agree factory farming is a problem, but not so much with sanitation as with the way they handle the cows. Bovine stimualating hormones to increase milk yeilds, antibiotics, steroids, pesticides... the list goes on. Anyone who drinks milk or uses any animal products should really consider organic foods. Any foods with high fat content will have more of these bad things in them, so organic milk and butter are the least toxic ways to go.
As far as how much milk is too much is really a personal issue. Like NBE, each person has a different reaction. Too much of anything is not a good idea. And if you over-indulge in one product - no matter what it is, you have a greater risk of developing an allergy to it.
waxingmoon
waxingmoon
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 7:35 PM
Well, now you've got me started about cholesterol... lol
Only 20% of our bodies cholesterol comes from our diet. The other 80% is created internally.
Low cholesterol diets are not that beneficial. They really do not show a link between the consumption of high cholesterol foods and high body cholesterol. The things that lower cholesterol the most are reducing body weight through exercise. There is also a lot of new studies showing that reducing simple carbohydrates to lower triglycerides will also lower cholesterol. Remember the Atkin's diet?? As problematic as it was in other ways, it showed that consumption of protein and fats almost exclusively could lower total cholesterol levels.
Also, the jury is still out as to whether high cholesterol itself is problematic. Rather it is the type of cholesterol (LDL is the bad kind) and whether and inflammatory condition exists in the arteries that leads to plaqueing. Inappropriate B vitamin use has been linked to arterial inflammation which is a precursor to arterial plaqueing.
Bossie the cow is not a villan. When she leads an organic life, she produces a good product. Poor Bossie is getting such a bashing on this thread... lol
waxingmoon
Steph
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Nah, not for me at least
January 1 2007, 8:31 PM
I drank at least a litre of milk a day for at least 5 years... no particular reason I just like milk. And I'm still barely a 34a.
Katrina
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Re: Milk
January 1 2007, 8:34 PM
I agree more the Waxingmoon than any of these other posts.
For all of you women and even men who believe that protein and milk are bad for you, you should read this comment below:
*Dr. Mercola's Comment:
It has been known for over 80 years that increasing protein will cause your body to excrete calcium into your urine. Many have translated this to mean that eating meat will cause osteoporosis.
Nothing could be further from the truth, which is that one needs adequate protein to build strong bones. The calcium that is lost in the urine is more than easily compensated for by making sure one has adequate dietary calcium intake.
This study found that 500 mg of calcium daily was sufficient to compensate for the increased protein intake.
With respect to calcium, the best calcium is not coral calcium but calcium from real unpasteurized raw milk.
Once you have the calcium though, you need to absorb it, which is why you will want to get plenty of sunshine in the summer and high-quality cod liver oil with healthy vitamin D in the winter.
However, please remember that once the calcium is absorbed with the help of vitamin D it still needs to be plugged into your bone matrix. Vitamin K is absolutely essential here, and if you have osteoporosis you will want to make sure you are on a high-quality vitamin K supplement to optimize your bone density.
faerycat
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To waxingmoon
January 1 2007, 9:07 PM
Oh golly no, I'm not bashing milk. Only yesterday was I nagging my son for not drinking it. But we are told it is good for us, so we must believe it.
http://www.obscurious.co.uk/html/html.pages/Milk.htm
I just worry and care, that's all.
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Katrina
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Thats Okay...
January 1 2007, 10:24 PM
We all care and worry about our health (hopefully)
If we didn't we probably wouldn't be looking for natural methods to increase our breast size! But, what I do believe and know from experience, is that what works for one person will not work for another person, because we all have our own unique biochemistry. That is why there is no program (health, fitness, or breast)that will work for every individual. But here is what we are all here for, is to give our own opinions, whether right or wrong, to try and help others. Their is NOTHING wrong with that.
*HEALTHY boobie growing in the year 2007*
Alcest
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Re: Milk
January 2 2007, 1:56 AM
I was just pointing out the fact milk is not the "perfect miracle food" that we once touted it to be, and that it very well can do more harm than good, and that the way we in America aquire it is appalling and disgusting.
If anything I am sticking up for the cow...not bashing it. Although you may have been told when you were a child the cow "wants and needs" humans to drink her milk, that is not actually the truth. All the cow wants is for her calf to drink her milk. Believe me, she doesn't care either way if we do or not. But what she does care about is how we treat her, and right now, Americans and other developed countries are treating her very, very badly.
That's my rant for tonight. =)
violet
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Re: Milk
January 2 2007, 2:17 AM
Mmmm i'd say they will probably increase their breast size pretty much as the rest of their bodies. =P
Wow... thanks to all the ladies that shed some light into this issue. I had absolutely no idea about the problems associated with milk production and consumption. Hrm, now I certainly don't feel so bad for not drinking much of it... (never did, always found it really disgusting , drink 1/4 Liter per day if that much...). =x
Kat
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milk
January 2 2007, 10:07 AM
I'm very underweight, and milk (high fat) seems to give my body some good calories that I need. I don't know, since I've started drinking a lot of milk I've noticed that my breasts seem a little bigger, it's either that or I'm sexually excited all the time..could be? lol. Being in love will help it along I guess. But this milk discussion is interesting.
Alcest
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January 2 2007, 1:14 PM
If you're breasts are growing due to drinking conventional, non Organic milk then it makes perfect sense. It is the same reason why young girls (8-11 year olds) are developing faster than they used to. Little girls in America who drink a lot of conventionally grown milk are starting puberty at as young of an age as even 5 years old now sometimes. Their mothers, terrified, bring them to the doctors, showing them their sprouting pubic hair and the doctors don't know what to tell them. It's the milk and the meat, because we pump up the cows full of SO MUCH hormones and steroids and pesticides and so many awful things that screw with our own hormones and receptors(I forget what the receptor for your hormones is called...)
If anyone wants this explained in further detail I will later, I wish I coudl now but i have to go to work!
waxingmoon
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January 2 2007, 3:55 PM
Early puberty is just another one of those signs of estrogen dominance produced by a variety of environmental causes. Yes, I agree the hormones in milk and other animal products are a big part of it. But even if you are a vegetarian you are still at risk.
Pesticides, solvents, plastics... it is a big list. These things are a source of xenoestrogens. Artificial estrogens that get into our bodies and stimulate all sorts of estrogen dominance problems. Unlike phytoestrogens which take up estrogen receptors and offer a lower estrogen source for the body, these xenoestrogens increase the total body estrogen. Too much estrogen is bad news for women, men and children. Cancers of all types, hormone imbalances, infertility, early puberty, miseries in menopause... The modern plague of modern societies.
You can do a lot to cut down on your exposure. First get educated - a web search about xenoestrogens would be a good start. Eat organic foods. Avoid solvents (finger nail polish and remover are a big culprit). Avoid artificial hormones. You will reduce your health risks, increase your wellness and your NBE will work better too.
Just my soap box,
waxingmoon
Kat
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hormones
January 2 2007, 6:58 PM
I drink Swedish milk, and here in Sweden we are very restrictive with hormones given to the cows. Also I drink organic milk sometimes as well.
diana
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okay
January 2 2007, 9:00 PM
so how do i protect my 2 yr old daughter from all these things cause she loves her 'coco' milk. thanx.
waxingmoon
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Re: Milk
January 2 2007, 9:07 PM
Diana,
Organic milk would be a good idea for your daughter. That way you are avoiding hormones, antibiotics and pesticides and she gets what she wants.
Henri
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Re: Milk
January 2 2007, 9:47 PM
You know, its a real shame, that we can't just start drinking milk and grow boobs too!!!!
Katrina
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Another thing about Organic...
January 2 2007, 9:52 PM
Not only will you want to go Organic in dairy products, but you should also go non-homogonized. All milk we get in stores has gone through a process called homogenization, which breaks all of the fats up into smaller particles, which makes milk very hard to digest. Dr.Mercola (an osteopathic physician) believes it is this process that makes milk so bad (organic or not) and it is also what is causing digestive problems because this process kills all of the benificial enzymes in milk. Also, it makes the calcium in milk much harder to absorb, which is why despite the fact that there is an increase in milk consumption in America, their is still more people getting osteoporosis!
I am glad that some of you all are bringing up the way animals are being mistreated for human wants. I totally agree. But the point is, that you can get milk from cows that are treated very well: allowed to roam and eat as much grass as they please, are not fed hormones, grains, and anti-biotics.
Whether or not I believe we are not sopossed to consume milk from a cow, I do not know. But it seems that we all need some amount of calcium and you can get it from vegetables and milk, but not so much from any other foods.
Thanks for all of the opinions! I am not bashing anyone...
