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Breast massage question
January 27 2006 at 5:52 PM Ally  (no login)

How are the breast massages supposed to be done? And in what direction? I didn't know it mattered, but I read a post from SugarQ that had a website and it explained that the right hand should be going clockwise and the left should be going counter-clockwise. Is that direction relative to you? The website also said that going in the opposite direction would decrease breast size, so whether or not it's true, I really don't want to chance it.

Thanks!




SugarQ
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Re: Breast massage question
January 27 2006, 6:11 PM

the direction is inwards for both breasts towards the center. i dont think that it matters but according to some sources rotating outwards was suppose to decrease breast size so just to be safe i would just follow the inward direction. the main thing is moving is circulation and stimulation. you want to increase circulation and you want to stimuate the breasts and the nipple get the brain to release hormones (mainly prolactin). so you can do kneading massage i really dont thing it matters a whole bunch. i gave 3 sites that all have the same breast massage exercise in it. they each explain how it should be done differently but in the end its the same inwards rubbing rotation.




Ally
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Re: Breast massage question
January 27 2006, 6:25 PM

So it doesn't really matter? That's good to know, thanks!




SugarQ
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Re: Breast massage question
January 27 2006, 6:58 PM

ally, im believe it doest matter. but still follow the inwards rotation for sure. i get so many confusing sites that give different methods of massaging the breast for NBE. some say direct contact with the breast will cause shrinkage. its gets confusing but i just keep it simple and follow the massage technique that seemed to work for someone else. Lucille (f2f author) followed the inward rotation and she found that worked so i normally recommend just following her guide. but if you want to try something else then go for it.

the Deer/chi/reiki massage directions

1) place the left hand on the left breast and place the right hand on the right breast. spread your finger out a bit to over as much as the breast as possible. the palm should be over the nipple

2) press down lightly and rotate(rub the breast in a circular motion) toward the center of your chest. you should be rubing your nipples slightly(a little is good but too much can cause sensitivity and irritation). you should do about 300-400 rotations or about 5 minutes for the massage. also use a lubricant. a lotion or a breast enlargement cream or serum to do the massage.
check out lucilles picture. she drew a diagram of how the massage was suppose to be done.




Bradley
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Re: Breast massage question
January 27 2006, 11:19 PM

Clockwise on the right breast and counter-clockwise on the left.




Mrs.Taylor
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oh 4 real
March 8 2006, 10:23 PM

I read massage outwards to rub the toxins out but when I was rubbing inward they were doing better. Im switchin back to inwards..All the drama LOL



bradley
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Re: Breast massage question
March 9 2006, 12:35 AM

Aside from drama, the chi massage for breast growth should be an essential part of everone's program.

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massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006 at 6:00 PM shell (no login)

massage techniques - are u sure you right? sorry girls hope that didnt sound to harsh ! i have read the thread about massage everyone is saying go counter clockwise on the right and clockwise on the left well surely this will be moving boobs into outer arm area? i have always massaged in this way counterclockwise on left clockwise on right




Surf
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Re: massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006, 7:31 PM

Ok, I hope this helps everyone in clarifying the correct way to massage. In the cryptic image the below, the Os are your breasts, your hands should massage your breasts going around the O's from a to b to c to d to a (1 rull rotation). I think most people use their right hand on their left breast and their left hand on their right breast (easier on the arms).

head

b b
right arm a O c c O a left arm
d d

(right breast) (left breast)


It's difficult to do this without using any symbols or images (so that everyone can view it).







Surf
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Re: massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006, 7:33 PM

Darn, it didn't work. If you visually have to move the b b on top of the Os and the d d underneath the Os to get the right idea. UGH!!! This is so difficult without pictures!




Snowflake
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Trying to understand, fesl stupid,
April 13 2006, 7:55 PM

Shell. don't worry about post seeming harch, know you weren't being. Its a pain trying to type so much, some of my posts or replys seem blunt. i'm not meaning to be, just tried of typing. Really trying to get this massage right. I go Clockwise on MY left boob, counter clock wise on MY right. I hope that is correct, cause thats what feels most natural to do. Hope we can get this right. When I look at diagrams on net, by the time I go to do it I forget which way is which. Surf Thanks for trying to help withdiagram. I will keep looking at it .




Snowflake
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See, read Shell's again ,
April 13 2006, 7:58 PM

And I think I am doing it wrong.




shell
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Re: massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006, 8:39 PM

i have a leaflet from mirifem cream which is where i got my info from also i massage each breast upwards from base and sides inwards and top downwards there is a diagram but my scanner isnt working or i would post the diagram




Brenda
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Could it be the mirror???
April 13 2006, 8:54 PM

HI all

I agree with Shell but if you are looking in a mirror, it is the opposite effect.

I massage both breasts toward my breast bone. I don't cross my hands over but even if you do, if you want to massage inwards, the left breast is being massaged counter clockwise and the right clockwise.

I guess using the clock analogy is helpful - maybe it's just better to say massage them both inwards towards your sternum???

Brenda




Lisa
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Re: massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006, 9:18 PM

I thought since there has been so much confusion regarding this and I wouldn't know how to explain it any different from the way Sunset and many others already have that I thought it would maybe be good to have a picture.
I have sent one to Eve and hopefully she will post it, it is a picture taken from one of those bra measuring sites, I didn't want to use a real boob picture so that's why there is a line on it :-). My drawing isn't that great either but believe me, I tried and it took me ages to get kind of decent half circles. :-)
So hopefully that will clear up the confusion and help in future when the question arises :-).
Take care everyone and good luck growing,
Lisa




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Re: massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006, 10:29 PM

OK, the massage picture has been posted.




Lisa
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Re: massage techniques - are u sure you right?
April 13 2006, 10:38 PM

Thanks Eve for posting it, I hope it helps.

Lisa




Sunset
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It depends
April 14 2006, 2:39 AM

yes on how you look at it. If you have a clock right infront of you and you are staring right at it, then yes it is true that the right boob goes counter clock and the left goes clock wise.

I seen that Eve said she posted a picture so hopefully that will help.
The best way for me to explain is to say that BOTH breasts should be rotated IN towards the MIDDLE of the body -moving the hand and the boob under the hand IN towards the cleavage area.

------>OO<------ (right way)INWARDS

<-------OO------> (wrong way) OUTWARDS

~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*




Sunset
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Also
April 14 2006, 2:45 AM

If you look in the mirror it should not change the dirrection. I am not saying anyone is doing it wrong, I just dont want anyone to rotate outwards because I read it may actually make them smaller. I would not want that to happen to any of you!!




Sunset
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And Snowflake
April 14 2006, 2:46 AM

And Snowflake the way you described is correct. Please know that and continue that way.

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Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006 at 3:09 PM Snowflake (Login GoldSnowflake)
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Really having trouble typing this morning but here goes. Does it matter which way you massage, clockwise or counter clockwise. having trouble getting right breast to catch up with the left.. But other than that am quite full and very tender. massage aleast twice a day sometimes three. Not massageing larger brest as much as smaller.Thanks any input would be great. PS Sunset dropped the milk thislte all together starting to feel abit more like myself again.




-Moon-
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 3:19 PM

I can't really answer, cause I am wondering the same thing, but I have another question - does it matter whether you massage over the clotes, or does it have to be on bare skin?



Snowflake
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This Is embarrassing but----
April 13 2006, 3:33 PM

If I am not wearing a bra,(in the evening when I got my jammis on) watching TV, I find myself massaging myself over my t-shirt, cause the material moves for you so its kinda like using cream. I just have so much fullness I can't stop touching them. I know thats weird. And maybe alot of the fullness will be gone after my period, it will be interesting to see what happens. I would also would like to know if anyone things you can get substancial growth with just massage. So Moon, have you noticed much change since you started massage.




Sunset
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 4:10 PM

hmm, lemme see how I can expain this.
If you are standing right in front of a clock, you should move your RIGHT boob the OPPOSITE way of the hands on the clock.

You should move the LEFT boob the SAME way as the hands on the clock.
(gosh I hope that doesnt confuse anyone.)

Ok- Basically you want to massage BOTH boobs so that you are rotating INWARDS like to where the "cleavage" is. Move your hand inwards and up wards.

DO NOT move them outwards-like towards where your arms are. This may cause them to get SMALLER-and NO we dont want that..lol

I hope this helps but if I confused anyone just ask.

And as far as massaging over clothes;well my opinion it would be much better to do it on bare skin using a batter. I think it would help much more and be more effective that way. So I would aim for 2 times a day on the bare skin.

After that if you feel like you want to massage them while lounging around in your jammies-then I guess go for it..it cant hurt.

Snowflake dont be embarrassed it is wonderful to enjoy your fuller boobies! And I am glad you are feeling well after dropping the Milk thistle. Thats very good!

~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*



Helen
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 4:12 PM

Hehehe Slowflake, this is great, there's absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about - you are just loving your puppies and this is great!!!

Be careful with massaging without cream though, I know what you mean about the material moving on your skin, it feels it's "sliding", but friction can make your skin dry, so you might need to moisturise it afterwards anyway.

Same thing Moon, you can massage without the cream, but the breast skin is thin and sensitive, so friction with your hands might irritate it, make it dry or even sore - and we want to feel soreness due to growth, not massage friction, right?
Plus, by massaging with a lotion you also "feed" your skin with useful ingredients depending on the butter you use, so massaging doesn't only improve circulation but also helps the skin absorb these ingredients.

As for the "direction" of massage I had the same question myself. Well I cannot say clock-wise or not for both boobies as it would be the opposite for each one, so I would say clocwise for the left and anti-clockwise for the right (imagining you are looking at a clock while massaging). This is another way of describing this "up-" and "inwards" motion Sunset has told us about, I hope I am not wrong or I will be in trouble and a very "bad student"...! If I am wrong, plz Sunset dear, elaborate

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Love,
Helen x




Helen
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Sunset
April 13 2006, 4:18 PM

Whoops, bad synchronisation, I must have been typing when you posted

This is a relief though as I was not wrong about the clock directions (got a bit stressed there that I was doing it wrong!) hehe

Phewww thanks Sunset! xxx




Sunset
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hahaha Helen
April 13 2006, 4:24 PM

Well I must say you gave EXCELLENT advice..lol
We were typing at the same time-but wow how close our advice was!..hehe thats to cool You get an "A" for the day! lol.




Snowflake
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Yes, I was Massaging wrong then,,,,,
April 13 2006, 4:26 PM

On my right breast I was massaging counterclockwise, which is actually opposite to the way i massage the left. now I'm getting confused. My right hand massages my left breast clockwaise aand my left hand was massaging counterclockwise on my right breast. So I should be massaging clock wise with my left hand too. Maybe thats why my right boob is smaller. I will pay attention better and see if it helps even out the size. Its one thing to massage at home when watching TV, but I hope I don't start doing it in public. Will have to be careful that does not happen. I am even careful,my husband doesn't see me do it, I would never hear the end of it. How much growth do you guys think is possible with just massage, never come across BE with just massage and any kind of results.



Helen
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Yesss!!!
April 13 2006, 4:30 PM

Oh, thank you Ma'am! Super-glad I have not disappointed you! I will treasure my 'A' on the record playing subject! (yipeee)

This was funny, bless you girl x x x




Sunset
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YOU ARE DOING IT RIGHT SNOWFALKE!!
April 13 2006, 4:37 PM

You are right. No matter what boob you massage your hand should be going INWARDS to the MIDDLE of your body like where your "cleavage" is. As long as you do that your safe!

Your RIGHT boob=counter-clockwise (opposite the hands of the clock)
Your LEFT boob= Clock wise (the same direction as the hands on the clock)

You are doing it perfect so dont change a thing!!
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Helen, You have cracked me up here so many times. I am so glad you are member here. You are so funny sometimes, and I love it!

And you are giving some very good advice as well to lots of ladies about several topics. Great Job! And I wish you well on NBE too!

~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*



Snowflake
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I SOOOOO want to start my fennel,
April 13 2006, 4:43 PM

But at this point in my cycle maybe should start the SP, periods due Thursday. And haven't don the liver, gall blader flush we talked about yesterday Sunset. That sounds SOOOO drastic. Probably beneficial at my age but I am such a WUSS about something like that. I am a "what if" person. What if I made myself sick . Would really like to start a herb when I have all this fullness. What do you think girls.




Sunset
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Growth from massage
April 13 2006, 4:44 PM

Well personally I massaged 2 times a day everyday for a little over a month before ever starting herbs. I had GREW!! A little over 1/4"!!! All from massage. At that point I had used only cocoa butter and every now and then some ginsing oil. So IT IS possable!!

The article that Mel gave us about the CB/Vit E combo says that you get "as big as you want from massing under the boob and under the arm with cocoa butter" (I would STILL keep massaging right on the boob as well, it did talk about this too)
Well I think at one point your boobs would stop growing eventually, so I dont really believe an AAA cup can go to a DD if they massaged with cocoa butter everyday. I DO believe YES you will/can grow but I dont know if I believe we can grow for the rest of our lives and get bigger and bigger and bigger from it. I could be wrong though-you never know.

But yes I know from personal experience it DOES help you CAN grow, and quicker than anything, you will get fullness-plumpness and more rounded look.

~Keep playin those "records" girls! ~
~Best wishes on a growing journey!~
*Sunset*




Sunset
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Snow flake
April 13 2006, 4:51 PM

I dont blame you. I am a wuss too. Some people have no problems with it, but I have seen/heard about many who do/have.

If you dont feel comfortable with it, my suggestion would be to maybe get some progesterone USP cream ( since the milk thistle didnt agree) and you are supposed to use it 7 days before your period is due (or up till you recieve your period-which ever comes first) If you bought some today and used it , if your period is due Thursday-that would be exactlly the time recommended to use it.

I know you are excited to begin (I am excited for you too!) BUT the progesterone cream will rid you of excess hormones and it will keep your receptor sites open. That way they will readily welcome the herbs.
Thats just my opinion. I would used the Progesterone cream starting today and use it till your period comes. Then you can start herbs.

But its up to you, and if you want to begin, then do it. And I will pray that it works well for you this time!




Helen
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 13 2006, 5:02 PM

Snowflake, I haven't done a liver cleanse myself when I started, but I might consider Lisa's advise on the one she had used, if and when I consider having a break... I agree on the "drastic" side, why don't you consider a nice detox bath, like the one Sunset suggested? Or the progesterone cream? Perhaps both? Good luck girl, with whatever you decide, so that you can start soon and start seeing results! x

Sunset thanks you, you are a great person, I say it again I am lucky to have found you and all the girls in this forum! x



Snowflake
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Your Right,
April 13 2006, 5:09 PM

I'll be patient and keep massaging. Start fennel when I get my period. About the Cleanse/flush, would really like to do the liver flush, I will search more and decide later. If I choose not to do it I will certainly do the ones mentioned by Sunset and Lisa I think. I am getting excited, but you right, shouldn't just jump in till body is ready. Thanx Ladies




Moon
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Re: Breast Massage question?????
April 14 2006, 6:53 PM

Well, I thought I saw my tinny bobies a bit bigger since I've been on SP, FG with massage, but I don't know for sure, hasn't been long enough I guess. Still waiting and hoping though. ^_^




Sunset
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Snowflake & Moon
April 14 2006, 9:06 PM

I wish you both luck and am sure you will both be just fine and start growing in no time!

Helen-thank you

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Extra info on the CHI massage
December 22 2006 at 1:46 AM Katrina (Login mountainkat)
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For everyone who is wanting a good massage to use in their breast enhancement program, the chi massage is supposed to be the best.

But there may be some confusion on how it is properly done. I bought the E-book called Flat2Fab breast enlargement program and I believe that she explains how to do it incorrectly. She draws some pictures and then her directions complete contradict the pictures!


How to do the CHI massage:

1.) place your right hand on your right breast and left hand
on your left breast.
2.) spreading fingers as far apart as possible to cover the
intire area of each breast, rotate your hands while
trying to move your breasts beneath your hands (instead
of just sliding your hands across them).
3.) for LARGER breasts you have to rotate your right hand in
a counter-clockwise motion and rotate your left hand
in a clockwise motion.
4.) to DECREASE the breasts or one side you simply rotate each
hand and breast in the opposite direction I mentioned
above.

Some people may read her book and only go by the directions and do it the wrong way, which is what I did until I asked Michelle how the proper way was.




Katrina
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Re: Extra info on the CHI massage
December 22 2006, 1:49 AM

P.S. you do 360 rotations on both breasts 2x daily for maximum results.



Donna
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Now I'm really confused
December 22 2006, 3:51 AM

Just wanted to clarify - are the directions above, the right or wrong way to do CHI massage - eg. left hand clockwise, right hand anti-clockwise? Thanx




michelle choi
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hey donna
December 22 2006, 4:05 AM

Hi donna,

yes...it's left hand clockwise (inward) and right hand counter-clockwise (inward). So you're rotating your breasts inwards towards each other.

Hope this helps.

Breast of luck everyone!!



Donna
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Hi Michelle
December 22 2006, 4:22 AM

Thanks for your reply - goodness only knows where we would be without informative, helpful people like yourself and others on this forum. Please keep up the good work - Donna




organic angel
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Re: Extra info on the CHI massage
December 22 2006, 7:07 AM

I massage for 3-5 min 2-3x/daily. I have some reflexology books that I refreshed myself with, and one of their recommended breast massage techniques is to take each hand below the breast, with full flat palms, and slide slowly and firmly over your breast, making a cupping motion over your breast as you do. I also do the inward rotating movement around the breasts. And thirdly, I drag my open hand from my side/back area of my opposite breast, until I reach the nipple area.




Melanie
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Re: Extra info on the CHI massage
December 22 2006, 9:47 PM

The critical thing to remember with the chi massage for increasing breast size is that the direction of massage is always INWARDS.

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Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007 at 5:11 PM Ann5 (Login Ann5)
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Hello Surf,
I wanted to ask if you could advise me how do you do your massages. Do you do it like tiger lily's massage? I'd appreciate it, thanks.




Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007, 7:20 PM

Ok - I'm not sure how TigerLilly does her massage but here goes my current massage routine:

The following is from my personal page -

I have been massaging in the am with Palmer's Cocoa Butter Formula with Vitamin E Bust Firming Massage Cream. I have been massaging in the pm with 2 EPO capsules, 1 pumpkin seed oil capsule broken open, 1 safflower seed oil capsule broken open and vitamine E (400 iu). After my massage I rub 100% pure cocoa butter (that I have melted down) all over my chest area including under my arms. Sometimes I use 100% pure shea butter instead of the cocoa butter (I don't have to melt it down, so it's easier than the cocoa butter).
I then use heat for about 15 minutes. I use a bag that has corn in it that I pop in the microwave to heat. It is an almost moist kind of heat, but dry to the touch. The heat is low (approx 110 degrees).

Now I'll try to explain the way I massage -
After putting all the EPO, oils and vitamine E on my breasts (and sometimes I'll add in fenugreek extract at night), I put the palms of my hands over my nipples (right hand on right boob, left hand on left boob) and do 200 rotations (clockwise on my boobies). Then I put my right hand on my left boob and left hand on my right boob and do the same rotation movement for 100 more rotations. When I do these, I try to push some of the skin from under my arms towards my boobs. Then I use my knuckles (right hand on right boob, left hand on left boob) starting right below my nipples and do small rotations with my knuckles and do this motion in a clockwise roation around my boobs (like doing small circles in a circular motion around my boobs). I do this about 3 times around my boobs. Then I recently started massaging under my arms. I use my knuckles of my right hand and massage under my left arm. I go from my arm pit all the way down even with the bottom of my boob (like a 7 inch path up and down under my arm). I do this 25 times under each arm. Geez, I hope this makes sense. Then I put the melted cocoa butter all over my breasts and under my arms. I lather as much on as possible, above and below my breasts too. Then I crawl into bed and do the heat (no more than 110 degrees for about 15 minutes), then fall asleep.

I really feel like massaging is one of THE MOST IMPORTANT parts of NBE. Especially for those with poor circulation (which I believe I do, as my hands and feet are always cold). I feel like when I slack with my massages, I don't grow as much.

Since starting with the under the arm massage part of my routine, I've had very sore breasts and feel fuller. In fact, I think I finally will go and buy a new bra this week. I feel like I'm busting out of this one.

I hope this helps!

Gigando growing boobie blessing to all the boobie goddesses out there!!!




Ann5
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 8 2007, 7:57 PM

Thank you so much. I'm off to practice.




Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:21 AM

I made a mistake in my previous posting!!! At one point I said "clockwise". I should have said "clockwise for my right breast and counter-clockwise for my left breast". Ugh! Sorry!




Katrina
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To Surf...
January 9 2007, 12:39 AM

Surf, are you trying to decrease your breast size???? Because as far as I am concerned I believe that you should rotate your right breast counter-clock wie and your left breast clock-wise. At least that is what I asked Chelle Choi and that's what she said too. Lucille's book is wrong, I believe on her explanation because her pics don't match her directions.

Anyone else noticed this too?




Ann5
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:46 AM

Now I'm confused......



Sissy
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:53 AM

Are the arrows on lisa's massage page in the main menu correct? I realized last night I have been going in the wrong direction with my rotations if they are. I wasn't going to tell you all that, but oh well, I'm a knucklehead. I don't understand how I made that mistake, back in November I read all about the massages. So while taking all this stuff to grow breast, I have been massaging them away?



Tarepanda
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 12:54 AM

If you go to lisa's massage page (see main forum) you can see the directions drawn on a picture. i think that one is correct, so first inwards, down and then up (for both breasts)



Donna
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 1:03 AM

I'm with you Katrina, I asked a little while ago also which way to go and Chelle replied, left breast clockwise and right breast anti-clockwise. Seems to be working as they are fuller now.





Katrina
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The Chi Massage...
January 9 2007, 3:55 AM

I asked Lucille if she would consider changing her book so her description would match the pictures because they are confusing and contradicting, and the only reply I got back was that I was "getting confused." She never did change the description even though if anyone looks at those pictures I am pretty sure they would say that the right breast is rotating counter and the left is going clock-wise.

At lease I hope we are all right and her pictures are not just drawn wrong! But I know she did get the idea from the Chi Massage from Rieki Stein's book called Rieki Healing. I was thinking about ordering the book to see since she said the massage is explained more in depth in that book, but more confusing also. I don't know. Sometimes I think just in case I should do just regular massage with my finger tips in every direction just to be safe




jellyboobs
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 8:55 AM

well whatever surfs done it sure hasnt hurt her growth !!!!! love jelly...



Surf
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 3:10 PM

Katrina - Look at Lisa's Massage page. I do it the same way.

I shows that you should massage your right breast clockwise and your left breast counter-clockwise.

You are moving from the outside of your breast (right breast, start at 9:00), the up (right breast go the 12:00), then towards the middle (right breast go to 3:00), then down (right breast go to 6:00), then back to the outside (right breast 9:00 again). For me, this means massaging the right breast in a clockwise motion. I don't know how else to explain it.

I hope this helps.




Jen
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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 3:21 PM

Surf - I massage the direction that you describe. I also feel massage is the most important part of a routine. I have had growth and have never felt my growth has been hindered by massage. Oviously you have had awesome growth, so I don't think there is anything here to question. Thanks for sharing your techniques. They are always helpful - and inspiring!



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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 9 2007, 4:51 PM

Yes, it's clear. Thank you for your time Surf.



Katrina
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Oh....
January 9 2007, 11:01 PM

I guess we are referring to different massages. I was talking about the Chi Massage in which put your right hand on right breast and left hand on left breast, with fingers spreading apart, and then rotate your breasts in inward rotating circles moving the hold hand (right breast going counter and left breast going clock-wise). This massage sounds different from the one's you all are talking about.

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Imagine the arrows are your thumbs and they are going inwards as you rotate them doing the chi massage.



Katrina
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Found it...
January 9 2007, 11:13 PM

I found Lisa's massage, but it still appears to me the that the arrow on the right breast is going anti-clock-wise.... Does anybody else see it this way to or am I just cross sided?

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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 10 2007, 1:04 AM

Katrina - When I say the right breast, I mean MY right breast. Not the right breast of a picture (which would in fact be the left breast of that person). It may be confusing because you're looking at Lisa's massage page and it's a picture. When you're looking at a picture, you might be thinking that the right breast is the breast on the right-hand side of the picture. However, that's not what I'm talking about. When referring to right or left, I mean MY right or left. I hope this helps to explain what I mean.




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Re: Surf: Help with massage please
January 10 2007, 1:17 AM

Katrina - Another thing that might be helpful is to imagine a clock on each of your breasts. When I was trying to explain that you should start at 9:00 with YOUR right breast (not a picture of someone).

For YOUR right breast, 9:00 would be near your arm, 12:00 would be at the top, 3:00 would be between your breasts, and 6:00 would be at the bottom = clockwise.

For YOUR left breast, 3:00 would be near your arm, 12:00 would be at the top, 9:00 would be between your breasts, and 6:00 would be at the bottom = counter-clockwise.


I hope this helps to explain what I mean. Best wishes!



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Oops..
January 11 2007, 4:30 PM

Yes it's true, Lucille's chi massage or breast massage is actually a rieki massage, from Rieki Stein's book called Rieki Healing.

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Tip for massage
April 14 2007 at 3:04 AM lexy (Login lexy1983)

About massage i have a lil tip for growth. i read it in several forums and in some doctors sugestions. Must say that after i did the massage for the first time with no cream i started feeling the same kind of pain you experience before the period and my boobs got firmer so i'm keeping on with it. here's how it is:

1. Sit so that you can press the heel of one foot against the opening of the vagina. You will want a steady and fairly firm pressure against the clitoris. If it is not possible to place your foot in this position, then place a fairly hard, round object, such as one of the steel balls commonly sold in boxed sets in Chinese shops, against the vaginal opening. in other words you need to turn urself on a bit

2. Rub your hands together vigorously. This will cause heat in your hands by bringing the energy of your body into your palms and fingers.

3. Place your hands on your breasts to that you feel the heat from your hands enter into the skin.

4. Rub your breasts slowly in inward, circular motions. Your right hand will turn clockwise; your left, counter-clockwise.

5. Rub in this circular manner for a minimum of thirty-six times or a maximum of 360 times up to two times a day.

i do around 300 twice a day and my boobs are firm and they hurt and i'm not taking any herbs or eating anything special. i measured and i seem to only have a tiny bit of growth that is most likely due to them being more firm. but i only did this 4 days so i'm working on it




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Re: Tip for massage
April 20 2007, 10:00 PM

I think if I did 720 massages a day my hands would seize up with cramp or I'd get repetitive strain injury.



sugar2spice
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Re: Tip for massage
April 23 2007, 12:14 AM

when massaging, does growth remain permanent or can it go away?



anonymous
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Re: Tip for massage
April 23 2007, 6:23 AM

It goes away if you stop massageing



lexy
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Tip for massage
April 27 2007, 8:13 PM

i dunno . i didn't start long ago. it's not hard to do only takes 5-10 minutes so i say it's worth a try



sugar2spice
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forever?
May 2 2007, 8:27 AM

so massaging must be a life-long commitment???



lexy
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Re: forever?
May 2 2007, 8:33 AM

from what i read you need to do this massage at least 4 months. i couldn't do it forever. actually i've been away for the past 2 weeks and i stopped so i only did it for 3 weeks. the swelling went away. i dunno if the same thing would happen if u stop after 4 months. if i ever manage to make it that long i'll post the results. good luck



anonymous
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Re: Tip for massage
May 2 2007, 11:57 AM

It's only temporary. Not "growth".



sugar2spice
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temporary and permanent
May 2 2007, 3:02 PM

Then if its temporary, what if I am taking Wonderup pills and massaging with the cream. How will I know what is permanent and what might go away? I hope Lexy is right...




Erica
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Re: Tip for massage
May 2 2007, 11:37 PM

The key point is #4. That's what you need to take away from this thread.

4. Rub your breasts slowly in inward, circular motions. Your right hand will turn clockwise; your left, counter-clockwise.

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Question about Chi rotations
January 28 2007 at 2:24 AM Ann5 (Login Ann5)
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I wanted to add the Chi rotations that I've read mentioned on the forum. For those of you who do it, is this how it is done?

I take my palm and put it over the breast and rotate my hand inward so that my breast rotates.

So I have to do that 360 times?

I've been adding that in since a couple of days now but, I don't think I could really do it that many times. I lose track counting but it's around 90 or so. My arms get tired if I do more. Am I doing it the right way?




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Re: Question about Chi rotations
January 28 2007, 11:50 AM

Massage techniques are explained at the main page. I also found 360 rotations to each breast rather a lot of work. But besides that, I personally think that the chi massage is a lot less effective than Tiger lily's massage or a version of it that I do - massage with knuckles (the first step of Tiger lily's massage). I also do some rotations in additions. Massage with knuckles in circles arround the breast gives me pains and tingles shortly after I do it, so I know that it gives a lot more stimulation than the chi massage.




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Re: Question about Chi rotations
January 28 2007, 3:49 PM

I think 360 means all the way around,like 360 degrees but not sure. I don't even manage to do 90, my arms get too tired. I thought they would get stronger and it would be good exercise for them, but they still can't do that many before they feel like they are falling off.




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Re: Question about Chi rotations
January 30 2007, 11:49 AM

Is it possible to turn your hands through 360 degrees? (when massaging)



Sissy
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Re: Question about Chi rotations
January 31 2007, 12:20 AM

Ok, someone else needs to clarify this.... I just took 360 to mean all the way around the breast. Maybe I was mistaken.



Ann5
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Re: Question about Chi rotations
January 31 2007, 2:28 AM

Where are our Chi massagers?



emmie
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as far as i know
January 31 2007, 5:08 PM

this is the "spinning of the records" that i think snowflake used to talk about. if you look at the diagram on the massages, i think it is the lisa massage page?, it tells direction. put your palms on your boobs, apply enough pressure that your boobs move AND your hands move over them, and move in circles in the pattern (a circle) as shown. 360 times...

it gets tiring, and some dont like them anymore. i just started back with them...




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Re: Question about Chi rotations
January 31 2007, 11:20 PM

The 360 rotations is only the maximum number. You can do less than that.

Personally I think 360 would be a struggle, especially as it would be 360 rotations twice a day.

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Untitled
March 26 2006 at 10:46 PM
Jess (Login Jess1226)

Hey Sunset Im so confused about how you explained Chi massage?
How can you rotate 360? and Man do you mean to twist your boob 360?
I have been wanting to try Chi breast massage but I dont understand how in the world to do it?
Could you help me out please? ....Please and thank you!

Boobie Blessing to everyone!
Love,
Jess




Sunset
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I'll try
March 26 2006, 11:05 PM

All you do is of course place your hand over the breast.
move your breast around in an UPWARD INWARD CIRCULAR motion.
(Move it TOWARDS the middle of your body, like where your cleavage is)
(DONT move OUTWARDS=that could make them smaller)
The chi massage technique calls for doing this 360 times 2 times a day.
SO when your hand/boob goes all the way around and back up, count 1 then 2 and so on-till you reach 360. It should take about 5 minutes if you do both of them together, or 10 minutes if you do them seperatly (I found seperatly to be MUCH easier on the arms..lol)

You want to move the breast around under your hand as much as possible, to ensure you are getting blood circulated to them. Try not to just move your hand around and around with out moving the breast also.

If you cant get the hang of it I think any kind of massage and stimulation that would help circulation would work, so try not to stress to much about doing it perfectly.

Thats about the simplest way I can explain it. I hope I helped clear things up for you. If not just ask and I'll try to explain it a different way.





Jess
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Re: Untitled
March 26 2006, 11:46 PM

Ok- Sorry to make you go though that again...
I move my breast and not my hand?
so Im moving the breast in a small circle and not my hand in a circle on my breast?
Gosh 360 times! Yikes my Boobs mit just fall off! hehe
Thanks so much Sunset your are a sweet heart always helping other people.

Boobie Blessing to everyone!
Love,
Jess




Sunset
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NO no no..lol
March 27 2006, 2:06 AM

you DO rub your hand over the breast-BUT you also try to move the breast around too. You dont just pick up your boob and move it in circles..lol
Sorry I confused you!

Ok, think of it like this=have you ever massaged someones back? You move your hand around over their skin and you notice how the skin kind of moves with your hand in the same motion?

Well just do the same thing. You move your hand in circles all around the breast and try as best as you can to move the boob around a little under your hand. Dont actually pick up the boob and circle it around and around-leave it set on your chest like normal and put your hand on it and move your hand inwards and upwards. While your hand is doing that try to focus on moving the boob while its under your hand.

Ok, pretend you have a record player (sorry this is the best example I can come up with..lol) Pretend there is a record on the record player.

The RECORD is your boob. Pretend you put your hand on the record. If the record player is not turned on the record will not move around. So if you put your hand on the record (your boob) and move your HAND around the record,you will only be moving your hand and not the record( boob) around right? ok you want to avoid moving just skin over skin.

So Now pretend you plug in the record player. You put your hand on it and move your hand around in the same direction as the record. YOUR HAND AND your boob is then both moving around at this point. the record is moving around UNDER your hand. Ok you want to move the breast around underneath of your hand in the same way.

I really hope I didnt confuse you further..lol sorry! if I did just forget everything I just said and we'll start from scratch. ..lol

Does it make any more sence now ?





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Re: Untitled
March 27 2006, 2:37 AM

Oh my gosh, lol, I have been doing this wrong. I have been "picking up my boobs and moving them around upward and in circles lol. That is what I got out of reading the chi massage technique before. It's a wonder they haven't fallen off since I have been doing it wrong. Too funny! Tonight I will pretend they are "records" LOL



Sunset
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omg
March 27 2006, 2:56 AM

I feel so bad now-your the 2nd one who done this because I must have explained it all wrong..I am so sorry ladies you poor things, you are lucky you have any boobys left at all, I am really sorry if I confused anyone else! Maybe I should cut and paste my "record" explanation and make a new thread? I really am sorry, I thought my first explanation was ok, I must have not explained it well enough.

Yes you both need a big hug, I am so sorry, you'll find it MUCh more easier and comfortable now I hope. Sorry agian!




Jess
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Re: Untitled
March 27 2006, 3:22 PM

Oh My!..... I did it too...I was shifting my boobies all over the place last night for ten min.
I put a boob in each hand and held on and around we went! hehe I thought man this isnt so hard, Woke up this am and I was a bit sore, I just thought that it was working hehehe...
So you go around the boob in a counter clock wise way and dont move the boob all over just a bit under your plam ok, Man I have to laugh,
I can just see us all last nigh holding on to our boobies for dear life and moving them suckers all over our chests hahaha Oh man Im cracking up! hehehehe

Boobie Blessing to everyone!
Love,
Jess




Sunset
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Thank you
March 27 2006, 5:02 PM

Jess-you crack me up! hehehe I can just imagine..hehehe you poor thing lol
The way you desribed it in your last message is EXACTLY how you do it. Just move em around under your hand hehehe your so silly but you humor me so its all good..lol

BJ-I am glad you understand better now too. The "record" thing was the only thing I could compare it too..hehehe SO glad you guys are on the right track now.

I dont even have enough boob to "pick up" to move around so I never thought about explaining it for those of you who do..lol ok, Im glad you'll both be a little "nicer" to your boobies now..lol

And just to be sure-you move your hand inwards towards like where your cleave would be-dont move em outwards like towards your arms. its up and over not down and under

I'm sure you'll find this making more sence now ..hehe




BJ
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Jess
March 28 2006, 1:59 AM

LMAO I was laughing so hard reading your last post I had tears in my eyes. My husband asked why was I laughing and looked at me like I was nuts. Mine have been very sore also and I thought it must have really been working lol. And the thing you said earlier about twisting them 360 degrees OMG LOL.

And Sunset, thanks so much for all the info. I guess everyone interprets stuff different sometimes.





Jess
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Re: Untitled
March 28 2006, 2:16 AM

I Love Ya'll
You ladys really do help us new bee's out so much, And man Im so Thankful that we have eachother to Laugh, Cry, worry, and ask questions.
Now tonight when Im massaging I will be allot nicer to the Girls! I did it in the shower this am and the soap really made my hands glide all over them, So I got a beeter idea of what to do with the lotion now!
My Hubby made a comment today that my Boobies are getting bigger, and Bigger, He said he would of never ever thought that this would of worked its amazing. Lets just hope he still thinks so after my peroid, Yikes!

Boobie Blessing to everyone!
Love,
Jess




Fiona
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OMG
March 29 2006, 2:53 AM

I am so glad I read this topic. I was laughing about the twisting boob thing. I had been doing the massage WRONG for the last 3 weeks. I swear my boobs 30aaa has gotten even smaller but I thought maybe not. After reading the thread, I was probably right. I had been moving my nearly non existent boob all around making sure my hand does not move. Oh my god, it's so funny. I am glad to find out now than 3 months down the line. Ha ha! Good job Sunset with explaining the correct way to do it. I got to admit, I was not upset at all, I laughed the whole time.