(23-01-2018, 14:08)sweetorange Wrote: OMG! The trolls and buttheads you can find on the internet is huge I know dear I know ! Do I have to punch someone ? 
Ignore them that's the best thing you can do and OBVIOUSLY do whatever it makes you happy! Plus , I think they are just jealous (yes JEAAALOUS) about your plans, your results and yourself!
Weeeell I still on NBE buuuut do you remember I had to loose weight for health reasons? about 7,5 kilos? well I made it! and meanwhile I kept pumping so my size was the same during that period of time , 34C though I lost a bit of volume. Buuuut in december around Christmas after spending tons of times with my nieces guess who got the flu? myself! 
and it was the A one yeees the one that is around all Europe in case somebody doesn't know what I am talking about ! I stayed in the hospital for a week cause my fever was too high they decided it was better to control the situation. AND I LOST WEIGHT. yep. And this time I didn't need to! so what happened? they've lost the shape, and obviously the volume. I still wearing a 34C but they are not full you know what I mean right?
So I decided to get back to pumping two weeks ago, little by little, but last Friday I tried 1h again and I overpumped HAHAHAH I'm so dumb I know! so today I get back to boob work =)
I've been thinking in other methods as well. Remember our crazy talks about zhi mu (your notes in purple ink hahaha that made me laugh I am not the only one who writes down things about NBE on notebooks!) ? I am thinking if that could be a good alternative or even BO pill through nipple intake since you told me it only acts locally that would be a good give-a-try too but I don't know! You know I am a mess taking too much things and even worse if they are orally, so I don't know if BO nipple cream alone would work ! (well and pumping)
You know I'm not sci person but if I've understood well , you say having period it's essential and not making the mimic part (taking supplements for estrogen , progesterone so on) would be positive- then, some NBE makers are on the wrong process or different paths ??
I'm worried for the herb intake I see on the forum , that's why I ask this( I know is not my problem but I would not like hearing from someone he or she is hurt because of it!)
On the other hand so you think breast tissue and fat tissue makes our boobs look and feel different, very interesting! Do you think fat tissue could be easier to get or both are complicated? (I guess what I get from noogling is breast tissue...) I'm interested now in working in both kind of tissues, any idea what I could do?
My beautiful Ellen, you are doing a great work , you must be so proud of yourself (so I am 
) and please don't feel discouraged about others opinion or dumb messages, you are a wonderful human being and you are not just working for yourself also for this community (because let's be honest she could have hidden all her threads but instead she decided to share with you, so be KINDDD)!!!
you are A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!
Much love xxx
girrrllllll <3 <3 <3
haha! Yes good news for you first! I remember reading a scientific paper on Brava where they shared the actual results. They did an MRI scan too, and BOTH glandular tissue as fat tissue increased with pumping. So you get both
Makes sense, because both the tissue types are exposed to tension.
And yes I truly believe getting a period is essential. I didn't think so at first, while looking at trans-females, because they continiously take in hormones. But Cis- females have an advantage, and that is that we have our own hormones.
In short, almost every breast supplement which has some kind of estrogenic effect (soy, flaxseed, herbal or BO, doesn't matter), lowers FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone). And you don't want that to be suppressed when you are having your period, because that is when follicles need to grow with FSH.
Follicles are eventually the ones that gives off hormones, the bigger they are, the more hormones
Will do a thread with a complete time scale thing going on, on how to implement this. Because some other factors are essential.
I will not do it myself. I am done, I can't have any more growth, that would be ehh too much lol.
But I am a scientist by heart, and I love figuring this out for everyone, not just myself. I think every woman deserve the body they want.
I will probably post it in the Programs section, and I'll make a thread on just specific for BO, because I think (my personal opinion/hunch, no data) that BO is the best supplement to help this.
Anyways, your message really warmed my heart <3 and I think you are amazing as well! I will not quit NBE forum/ideas until I've seen you rearched your goal size girl! got ur back
Oh and about the Zhi Mu. Yes Aliexpress had a new rule somewhere in October 2017 where they do not allow supplements to be sold anymore. So you can't buy it anymore on Aliexpress I am sorry. Haven't looked into where to buy it yet now sowwy
