[eva_bs]

Hi Ginie!!!
I am now traveling so I didn't log on to the forum much! I now must read all the posts to catch up! Last month my period was delayed because I took the PM. I took PM from day 1 to day 12 of my cycle...but my cycle got crazy from that.... instead of a 28 cycle I had 42 days. So I didn't take PM for the month after that. And my cycle was now 29 days. Maybe I should check Progesterone cream. PM lowered my Progesterone....Do you know if I can find Progesterone cream in Walmart?
I got my period today...so I will start taking PM again on day 7 this time...I don't know till when I should take it? should I take it till day 21? or day 14?
o.k....
hope to hear from you soon!
Thanks for your help!

[Ginie]

Hi Eva, what a coincidence! I'm travelling too! I'm in bthe US now, in Houston. I was in Walmart yesterday and I'm pretty sure they don't have it. I was actually looking for a supplement (for hair) which was recommended in EDS website. Couldn't find it either.

Besides, it's safer if you use PC recommended on Dr.Lee's website. There're many to choose from.

Do you use NB when you travel? I was soooooooo panicing because when we fly from Europe to the US they do additional baggage checks and I was so scared that they would open my bag and ask me "What is this, mam?" So happy that they didn't open it!

Well, as far as I remember you were using really high doses of PM, didn't you? If yes then this can explain the fact that even though you were using it days 1-12 you still had so much of it in your system that it messed up your cycle.

I actually think I now understand the mechanism why it delays period. Your ovulation is supposed to be around days 12-14. If you take too much PM then you probably postpone your ovulation. So instead of day 12-14 ovulation may happen day 20 or even later! After ovulation it MUST take 14 days exactly before you get your period. So as simple as that.

Are you sure you ovulated that cycle? If not then it explains low progesterone. It's normal to have non-ovulatory cycles now and then but if they happen often then it may lead to estrogen dominance.

I know certain brands recommend thousands of mgs, I don't know if it is safe, really. I used to take 200mg, now in maintenance I take 100mg but I would like to take less, 50mg, unfortunately the capsules I take come in 100mg.

Chiyumilk was taking 330mg and then 110mg a day.

Try to experiment with cycling. And keep in mind that EVERYBODY gets delay during the first month. I consider it "almost normal", your body adjusts to PM.

If you do cycle day7-21 then please let us all know how it affects your cycle!

Good luck! And happy boobie growing!

[eva_bs]

Hi,
I took only one capsule per day. the recommendation of Bella's is to take 3 capsules per day.
one capsule contains 300 mg of PM. So I don't think that I took too much. My body temp always goes up after I ovulate. but my body temp is usually low. when I am on my period my body temp is 36.1 after my period it is 35.8-36.0 and after I ovulate it is 36.4-36.5.
I will check Dr. Lee's web. I think that I need to use PC to raise my body temp.
I took my NB with me...but I don't have the time to use it.

[tuula]

Hi Ginie I really need your advice.I am 25years old ,never had kids but I want to have in the future.I m going to start taking PM.I ordered siriporn and wait for my order to arrive.I intend to take 1pill daily for 15days and if I see no effect at all after a couple of months I will take 2 pills daily.
My question is when should I take pm in order to have ovulation and stay fertile.The problem is that I have really irregular circles for all my life ever since I was 12.My cycle is usually 5weeks,other times 4 + - some days.

should I also use a topical?which is the best one according to you?

[Ginie]

Hello Chocogirl,

you should definately use topicals. Most if not all PM brands have lotions and creams so please use them because they work better than pills. Your liver "neutralizes" 70% of any pill you take so it's actually very little that your body really gets.

Cycling is not so clear. Everyone needs to work out what's best. We all are different and what works for one might not work for another. I can only speak from my own experience. I measure basal temperature so I always know when I approach ovulation. When I was doing NBE with PM I would stop PM pills 1-2 days before ovulation and resume day 3 or day 4. In the beginning I resumed on day 1 but then I would get cramps which were unbearable.

You can start with this routine and see if you can change it later.

Good luck with it! It is a good program. I grew very well on it, I was also using NB. I stopped few months ago and don't do anything for NBE at all. I didn't loose anything. Or actually I have noticed that the breasts kinda grow! Very very slowly, only I can notice but it's strange because I don't do anything at all for NBE right now.

[Ginie]

Hi Eva,

hope you're doing fine. How's your NBE going? I haven't been here for a few months already and I have like hundreds of messages to answer :-) Anyways, as I wrote I haven't lost anything since I stopped NBE so PM and NB must be a really good program.

[melissa4u]

Hey Ginie!!
So nice to see u back here!
I think you have answered where most, if not all of us wondering if growth from PM is permanent without any need of some kind of maintenance dose.
I am so happy to hear that it is permanent!
How many inches have you grown all together?

[eva_bs]

Hi,
I stopped taking anything....And I decided to take a Saliva hormone test. good I did! I think that my body is making too much estrogen...so PM for me is really not that good at all. I am going to go to a doctor to balance my hormones. I make too much estrogen and testesteron.
I am so happy for you that you got to your results that you wanted!!!
You are still growing becuse you sill have some supplements in your blood!

[Rosance]

Ginie, is this the website where you purchased Siriporn PM? If it is, is the product's (pills) name Premium Pueraria Mirifica Capsules? I am considering PM and this brand as my start. I have been on Greenbush New Blend Enhancement for two months, and I dont really feel like it's doing much.

[Ginie]

Hi guys, just wanted to answer your questions. Sorry for not visiting you more often. I think that's because I sort of forgot about NBE . Last night I was looking for a suit case in our closet and found NB in that suit case! It was funny, I think I hid it there so that my husband doesn't accidentally find it. Well, it all seems so far away now. So no, I haven't lost anything even though I completely stopped NBE. First, it was hectic when we were moving abroad and I didn't have time to do NBE, then I couldn't come to the conclusion if I like bigger breasts on me or not. Don't get me wrong, I think big boobies are beautiful. Just not on me. Since they got big (well, D cup is big for me) I wear clothes that actually hide them. Don't feel good when people stare. it's complicated and hard to explain.

Now I feel much better about this new size and don't "notice" ny boobs.

I liked how PM made my skin look and I would love to start taking it again but I don't want any growth.

Btw, I forgot to mention that when I stopped PM I got a light case of acne. it was gone in few weeks by itself.

I still take Meiji collagen when I remember about it. I have few bags left and I think it's really high quality marine source collagen.

Also, when you do NB you get used to sort of "inflated" look of your boobs. When you stop it goes down but they don't really shrink. They are just not inflated any longer.

Eva, I forgot, did you try PC to balance your hormones? If not then this is something to consider, definately. I used it after my very first NBE attempt. I was taking herbs as described in Lucile Sorela's book and totally screwed up my cycle. Was experiencing worst PMS and symptoms of estrogen dominance throughout the whole cycle. PC corrected it.

Melissa, I don't know how many inches because I think centimeters and cups. I think BO gave me a cup or 1 and 1/4. PM gave me 2 cups. Now I can wear either 32D or 34C and they sit tight. Starting size - a good (full) A though it was smth between A and B right before period.

Yes, Rosance, I was taking Siriporn.

Good luck to everyone! Now I know for a fact that it's doable. So relax, it will work! :-)