[Ginie]

I forgot one VERY important thing - I lost 5 kg since the beginning of my NBE journey, I think it is even harder to grow breasts when you're loosing weight. I wasn't on a diet and wasn't even trying to loose weight, but it just happened, I attribute it to a big stress and also to the fact that I stopped eating meat.

[melissa4u]

Oh my!!!
Ginie!! I would love to be a C cup or D cup, you are so lucky!!
It seems you never gave up, you kept trying one thing after another!
You grew with each method, which is great!
You are motivating me to not give up.

About the PC cream, you used it only for 14 days of the month in the luteal phase, correct? How many months did you use it for?
When you did stop using it, did you notice any loss of growth?

About the PM cream, do you think it's safe for pregnant women since you said it doesn't mess up your hormones because it's topically instead of taking pills?
I am not pregnant now, but I would love to get pregnant in 2 years or so, just asking if I can continue with the cream? By the way, my breasts did not grow more than half a cup size during pregnancy.

[Ginie]

Thanks, Malissa, now when I look back I can't believe it took so long and I didn't give up!

Hm.. I think I used PC cream for at least 3 months, maybe 4. I loved the results, boobs didn't feel swolen like on herbs, they felf bigger and heavier that's all. Never shrank back but after 3-4 months I didn't see any more growth so I stopped. Yes, only after ovulation, it's important or you may disrupt your cycle. Some pregnant women have lower progestrone and to avoid the risk doctors recommend use PC for them.

Since you're preparing for pregnancy I recommend you put your health first and be VERY causious when it comes to NBE experiments. Of course NB is 100% safe. When it comes to topicals I would like to think they're safe and really don't have a systemic effect (as notorious Carlaa, for example, says) though I can not be 100% sure.

Always remember that NBE and pregnancy planning are not coming very well together. You have to be VERY careful and not mess up your hormonal balance and THAT is tricky while doing NBE. Your progesterone level MUST be normal (high in luteal phase) in order for the egg to implant and survive. During pregnancy it is forbidden to experiment with phytoestrogens. For your baby's sake. Your boobs may grow much bigger than the first time.

Btw, getting your half a cup whihc you grew during pregnancy should be easy, it's much ealier to get what you used to have back.

[melissa4u]

Hi Ginie.
Thank you so much for the wealth of information you have given!!
I really wish I can grow on each method like you.
I am on BO now, but I have taken notes from this thread and I will have everything ready for me when I switch to PM.

I am using NB 2 hours a day, I am filling my M domes, and I am in the process of getting my CL domes and airlocks. I want to noogle one breast at a time, to get some meat on the center part of my chest. I know that you said you noogled for 1 hour on each breast, but did you noogle 30 minutes on each breast twice a day?? or did you noogle one breast for one full hour and then switch to the other breast for another hour??

I have only had the NB for 2 weeks, and I am swelling pretty good, but the swelling is gone pretty quick. I have seen my breasts getting lifted. I have that "slope" on the upper part of my breast, I will continue noogling. I will be soooooo happy when that "slope" can be filled and becomes full!
Thank you so much for all your help.

Edited To Add: I just wanted to say that after Isabelle recommended that I take the Dr.Lee Hormone Imbalance test, it shows that I have Progesterone Deficiency and Excess Estrogen. I wish I had known this during my pregnancy, I could have used PC. I think that is why my breasts became tubular and my areolas became puffy. My breasts were weird looking, not full and round like a lot of other women with their pregnancy/breastfeeding.

[Ginie]

Hi Melissa, I noogled one hour each breast. Very time consuming but when I was doing so I got best results. For me it was very difficult to achieve any swelling at all. It is understandable because I haven't breastfed and my boobs were never streched before. I think it will be easier for you because your used to be bigger. I know that Anastasia used to have tubular breasts, but now her boobs look round and perky - all thanks to NB and massage.

I don't really know how estrogen dominance influences breast shape but I know that it inhibits breasts growth. You need to be very careful when you start phytoestrogens because strong opnes can make things worse. But if you bakance yourself first and then start adding them gradually then I think you'll be fine. You may be surprised that just making your hormonal status balanced alone can make your breasts grow!

Good luck!

[Nila]

Hi Ginie,

Just want to know your take on Aumenti. Does it work and are u still using it?

[Ginie]

Hi Nila, I try and use it but it's hard to squeeze anything into my program I apply PM cream, I use PM oil (serum) when I noogle, so, I really don't know in between what I should apply Aumenti. So I ended up using it once or twice a week which is qual to nothing, right? I was using it continuously during the first month, when I wasn't using PM yet and I haven't noticed any dramatic change. But I'm not saying it's not working, I'm saying that I haven't given it time. As anything else in NBE it is not an overnight miracle, whatever you use you have to give it at least 6-12 months to see a real result.

PS. Now when I think about it I guess I was noticing some puffiness, especially in the morning if I used Aumenti 2 - 3 times a day.

[Nila]

Thanks for the info.

[Ginie]

Hi guys, time to update. I get a lot of questions as private messages, so I decided to let everybody know what I'm doing now.

Today is day 3 of my cycle. This last cycle I wasn't taking PM capsules. I continued taking other supplements. Instead of a Japanese HA I now take Neocell, I'm running out of pig placenta but I managed to order more from a Japanese site which I mentioned before.

My cycle was 4 days shorter which for me is usually the sign of too much estrogen. I wasn't using PC this cycle.

This month I plan to use PM capsules but not PM lotion (will use Aumenti instead) because my boobs still grow and I just want to maintain the size. I will probably cut the dose even more. I was taking 2 capsules a day before (200mg) but now I will be taking just one. Decided to start today instead of day 1 because I get terrible cramps if I start day 1, I'm sure it is because of PM. When I was on BO I had absolutely no cramps btw. Without PM capsules my skin got a little worse - had a few pimples around ovulation time and before the period. According to my charts I didn't ovulate the month before but I did ovulate this last month.

I was noogling just 2-3 times during the last month, the swelling in luteal phase was substantial.

I take herbal supplements for reducing stress, started about 1,5 months ago. Just noticed yesterday that it contains hops!

Happy boobie growing everyone!

[melissa4u]

Hi Ginie,
Thanks for the update! So you still grew on PM lotion, WOW, that is nice to hear!
I know you said in a previous post that you can't get both domes on at the same time, I found some info that might help you, this will also make the nipples point straight to the middle instead of just looking down:

http://www.noogleberry.com/forum/index.p...150.0.html