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Long time hops & FG user

Hi Prettymama and Susan,

I'm running around between the threads too. I answered this here:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=8791&pid=32749&highlight=fish+oil+maca#pid32749
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Hey girls did you ever read this one? http://m.topix.com/forum/med/plastic-sur...V2P74A1/p2
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Woww Rolleyes

That's a thread with 4450 posts! We should start summarizing these things up here. They talk about books and e-books a lot. Are those any good?
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These threads have most of the info in those books really.
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Yaay for maca!! I CANT WAIT for u voth to get big asses...im sooooo confident u both will Big GrinRolleyes
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Thank you Prettymama,

Yesss, I'd like that! Booty greed Blush

I'm not going to measure yet. Tape day is next Monday. The day after I last measured, my weight was 84 kg instead of 85, so I had lost a pound in two weeks, instead of gaining one. So I'm going to change very little now. Just wait and see what the maca does.

I added the green tea back in this morning. It's slightly anti-androgen. If my mood turns bad, I can decrease it, or add more maca. If I would break out on maca, I still have plenty of anti-androgens: mint tea, mint-licorice tea, barley grass, and my emergency anti-androgen formula: pumpkin seed oil and SP. I want to balance maca with anti-androgens until my break in October.

I still haven't decided on how to take goat's rue: as tea, or topical? I have olive and borage oil, but I don't like messy. Maybe in glycerin or carbomer gel.

It's strange how many people suddenly think goat's rue now. Before MydreamisGcup's success with only PM and L-arginine and a multi, there were only three programs: Greenbush, Eve M, and Chiyomilk. Right now I'm one of the maca girls. Both lled34aa and GorgeousBlonde are on PM and goat's rue. I worked with MoK217 on cycling PM, and with Belabrasil and Bibi on cycling phyto-estrogens and phyto-progestins. I wonder what else is possible.

Susan came up with FG and PM. I can't see why not: FG is not a phyto-estrogen. It should work more or less like PM and GR, so we can just wait until lled34aa and GorgeousBlonde update.

Another very simple program would be aguaje and L-arginine. Because aguaje contains lots of vitamins, the multi is no longer necessary. A B complex may do. I wonder if anyone on the forum lives in a place where they sell fresh aguaje.

The "potency" of 8-prenylnaringenin in hops and deoxymiroestrol in PM is not very different. Alexis wrote she's considering to try this combination.
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Wow sounds good Big Grin i like the plan you concocted for me along with the methods im doing ask natural herbs massage...i have a good feeling i just need ro learn paitence lolBlush
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Thank you Prettymama,

You'll get there fast. It's Wahaika's favorite program for women who had what they want during breastfeeding. It's amazing how close your program already is. Be proud: it took years to put the Greenbush program together Smile
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Hi Isa..

Really Hops is close to PM but why do most get tired on hops and not PM..and I want to still try aguaje because as you mentioned it has alot of good vitamins and nutrients as well..that is what caught my eye...just expensive..can it be rotated with PM you think..
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Hi Susan,

I looked into how hops makes sleepy:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=8419&pid=30539&highlight=melatonin+receptor#pid30539
They don't know exactly which chemical it is, but it binds to the melatonin receptor. So it is not one of the phyto-estrogens in hops.

Hops is in the same plant family as weed. PM is not. That's the difference: many plants in the hemp family promote sleep.

I think you can cycle aguaje with PM, yes. It has both phyto-estrogens and phyto-progestins. You can use it just like Breast Success in the second half of your cycle.
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