01-10-2011, 19:35
Thanks, lled
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03-10-2011, 16:59
today is the 17th day of my cycle. this cycle definitely has much more soreness and tenderness than last cycle.
my measurements as of this morning:
underbust : 28"
overbust : 32"
so my underbust shrunk by .75" and i've grown almost an inch around overbust. some of this might just be luteal swelling, but last year, my luteal swelling was around 31.25".
my measurements as of this morning:
underbust : 28"
overbust : 32"
so my underbust shrunk by .75" and i've grown almost an inch around overbust. some of this might just be luteal swelling, but last year, my luteal swelling was around 31.25".
03-10-2011, 20:19
Yeay!
That's it. There's no stopping you now
That's it. There's no stopping you now
06-10-2011, 05:45
urgh! my period came yesterday. that last cycle was super short... only 18 days! 
i think it might be because of my experimenting with high PM dosage + greenbush tea.
but i thought i was overloading my body with estrogen. wouldn't my estrogen level need to drop and progesterone level rise in order for my period to come?
i thought i finally found the sweet spot... i was getting plenty of breast soreness and my skin hasn't been this well behaved in years... but then this happens. so now i need to re-adjust again so i can get a normal cycle.
i think it might be because of my experimenting with high PM dosage + greenbush tea.but i thought i was overloading my body with estrogen. wouldn't my estrogen level need to drop and progesterone level rise in order for my period to come?
i thought i finally found the sweet spot... i was getting plenty of breast soreness and my skin hasn't been this well behaved in years... but then this happens. so now i need to re-adjust again so i can get a normal cycle.
06-10-2011, 08:09
Sorry to read that, lled.
But ah, well, it keeps you sharp. Your brain will love it
But ah, well, it keeps you sharp. Your brain will love it
08-10-2011, 15:42
so pm is good with skin great i plan to start pm in january and take it until june off and on of course, could you good ladies point in the direction of the threads on pm, your supposed to start the last day of your period right
08-10-2011, 21:26
Marcy, I have read varying suggestions on when to take PM. Some sources say to start on the first day of your period & continue for 15 days. Other sources say to start on the last day of your period. I am going to start taking PM in November, and I'll be taking it starting on the 1st day of my period. I wish I had more information or experience to share about it, but not yet...
11-10-2011, 05:13
it's day 7 of my cycle and so far, no soreness. my boobs still measure at 32" but they seem smaller.
i started taking collagen pills again and again, i developed minor stomach discomfort/bloating. so i've decided to throw out the rest of the collagen pills and am going to make chicken feet soup, bone broth, and eat lots of beef tendons.
so me ramping up to 4 st herb pills and 2 siriporn pills a day didn't seem to have any impact. i am going to go back down to 4 st herb pills a day. i've also been applying lots of ro-bust lotion multiple times throughout the day and that also has no impact. i'm starting to think that i had the most success with just st herb products.
comparing my photos from end of july to beginning of october, my breasts look exactly the same. that means all the soreness and tingly feelings back in august didn't amount to any growth. i'm really puzzled as to what's going on.
i started taking collagen pills again and again, i developed minor stomach discomfort/bloating. so i've decided to throw out the rest of the collagen pills and am going to make chicken feet soup, bone broth, and eat lots of beef tendons.
so me ramping up to 4 st herb pills and 2 siriporn pills a day didn't seem to have any impact. i am going to go back down to 4 st herb pills a day. i've also been applying lots of ro-bust lotion multiple times throughout the day and that also has no impact. i'm starting to think that i had the most success with just st herb products.
comparing my photos from end of july to beginning of october, my breasts look exactly the same. that means all the soreness and tingly feelings back in august didn't amount to any growth. i'm really puzzled as to what's going on.
24-11-2011, 19:18
i almost gave up NBE altogether. there was a period of 2 weeks or so when my boobs felt deflated. i felt like i was back to square one after a YEAR of trying.
i finished Siriporn PM. will not order anymore. after my last bottle of St. Herb lotion, i will also discontinue using that as well.
what i found works for me, is Goat's Rue. for the past week or two, i've doubled my GR intake, and am taking 6 St. Herb PM pills a day. my boobs are the fullest they've ever been. last night after noogling, i got up to 33.5" for the first time ever! (that's after 2hrs of NG). i've been measuring myself every morning and i fluctuate between 32.25" - 32.5", while below my boos measures around 27.25". granted i'm in my luteal phase, so i know a lot of this is just swelling, but it's never swelled this much before. i hope some of it stays after my period.
i'm down to 100bls.
my underboobs went from 28.75" to 27.25".
boobs went from 31.25" to 32.25"
oh and i also started taking hops in liquid form. it tastes HORRIBLE! i should have gotten it in pills form. i started hops 3 nights ago. i'm only taking it at night.
someone had mentioned on this forum that you don't grow if you take fish oil. from my personal experience, i seem to make more progress when i AM taking fish oil.
happy thanksgiving and happy growing!
i finished Siriporn PM. will not order anymore. after my last bottle of St. Herb lotion, i will also discontinue using that as well.
what i found works for me, is Goat's Rue. for the past week or two, i've doubled my GR intake, and am taking 6 St. Herb PM pills a day. my boobs are the fullest they've ever been. last night after noogling, i got up to 33.5" for the first time ever! (that's after 2hrs of NG). i've been measuring myself every morning and i fluctuate between 32.25" - 32.5", while below my boos measures around 27.25". granted i'm in my luteal phase, so i know a lot of this is just swelling, but it's never swelled this much before. i hope some of it stays after my period.
i'm down to 100bls.
my underboobs went from 28.75" to 27.25".
boobs went from 31.25" to 32.25"
oh and i also started taking hops in liquid form. it tastes HORRIBLE! i should have gotten it in pills form. i started hops 3 nights ago. i'm only taking it at night.
someone had mentioned on this forum that you don't grow if you take fish oil. from my personal experience, i seem to make more progress when i AM taking fish oil.
happy thanksgiving and happy growing!
Hey lled, I know exactly how you feel. I have almost given up as well. I have been doing NBE since February of this year and I am still the same size. I get some temporary swelling but always seem to go back to my usual size. I am so fed up and can not be bothered doing anything any more. I am thinking of getting macrolane injections next year and may be continue taking PM internally at the same time. I am going on vacation in a couple of weeks and got a few bikinis.... I got so depressed when I tried them on. I am back to massaging a lot as I think it gives me some volume. Do you still cycle and how much goat's rue are you taking at the moment? I may try adding GR again as well.
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