[missmiffy]

Oh, okay, thank you!

[Jem Jee]

what does it mean by top heavy or bottom heavy? Is that in reference to if you have a larger bust or larger butt?

Bottom heavy is more about having wide hips or thick thighs and top heavy is more about having broad shoulders and thick arms.

[missmiffy]

Bottom heavy is more about having wide hips or thick thighs and top heavy is more about having broad shoulders and thick arms.

Wouldn't taking Vitex or PC and PM require knowing tested levels?

[Jem Jee]

No, not if you're just taking the minimum amount.

[missmiffy]

Would it still be as effective?

[Jem Jee]

Yes apparently it would, unless you're noticeably top heavy or bottom heavy.

[missmiffy]

I've gained weight in my thighs but I wouldn't say I'm top or bottom heavy unless my bust size counts. 

So you recommend that I take the following supplements for NBE? 
- 50% saponin fenugreek or shatavari
- pueraria mirifica
- PC or Vitex
- MSM
- saw Palmetto extract

[Jem Jee]

Yes if you're following the surferjoe2007 program you're recommended to take all of those.

[missmiffy]

Yes if you're following the surferjoe2007 program you're recommended to take all of those.

I noticed in a few threads that people include red clover, is that necessary to take or what is it for in regards to NBE?

[MadameBusty]

Red Clover, Hops, and PM are the top three most estrogenic out of all the herbs, that's why many take red clover, plus not only is it good for NBE it's great for beauty reasons.