[CHDchest]

Hi,

I have been working on a program for 3 weeks now - have seen maybe a little firmness and swelling of 1/2 in up and down.

I'm not expecting really rapid results given that my heart only works at about 60-70% full capacity due to congenital heart disease and I have to take diuretics to prevent fluid build up in my stomach and lungs. If I don't take this medication I look like I am 6 months pregnant within 3 days! I am also on warfarin and an oral contraceptive so herbal supplements are out for me. You would be surprised at how many things interact with warfarin (even fish oil!)

On the plus side I am otherwise fairly healthy and only 30 years old.

So my program has included these things:

- Daily massage of 20-30mins with flaxseed oil. This seems to be producing a bit of swelling
- Blake talks hypnosis - it's hard to fit in but I try my best. It has been interesting to talk with my teenage 'self.' I wore a back brace in high school so I think I was eager to stop growing because it would mean that I didn't need the brace anymore!
- General exercise/ weights etc
- Following a healthy diet and including more phytoestrogens in my diet. I have been looking to tigerlily's page for advice (being careful to avoid foods high in vitamin K due to warfarin interactions).

I realize this would probably take some time due to my medical condition and the methods used, so I chose things that should be fairly sustainable and at least not harmful in the long term!

My starting point - weight - approx 100lbs, height 5' 3", underbust 29.5in, bust 33.5in. Size 32B/34A

Any comments - questions please ask!

[CHDchest]

It's coming up 5 weeks tomorrow and I'm still enthusiastic!

I have found a new hypnosis routine which I really get into. It's available free here:

http://www.overflowingbra.com/wiki/natural_breast_growth:hypnosis

When I get the chance, I set my alarm about an hour and a half early and listen to it on my mp3 player in the morning. I am still doing blake talks most days - especially since the later sessions are so short. Think I may be getting some growing sensations after 6 weeks and I keep telling myself to "feel the bounce" when I go up and down stairs...

I'm still doing massage - using these techniques:

http://www.breastnexus.com/archive/index.php/thread-4735.html

I have added soy protein powder (about 3 dessert spoons) and gelatine (1g) to my diet in the morning. The gelatine will be a good substitute for chicken feet I hope. Still to early to tell whether it is having the desired effect but people are saying I look well

Also found out that my scoliosis is affecting my bra sizing quite a lot - because of the rib hump on the right hand side it makes the band size come out larger, but then I try on a 34A and the cups are too wide/ high - so back to 34B's.

I am going overseas next week and will really try to keep up with the hypnosis and massage but it might be a bit difficult on tour!

[CHDchest]

Sorry I meant 32B not 34B....

But 5 1/2 weeks in and I have maintained a gain of 1/2 to 3/4 in for a few days now so I hope it stays that way.

I am so happy because it shows:
1) I'm probably growing
2) It might have been poor circulation (and stress) which stopped me growing as a teen - so maybe I will respond faster to massage than I thought

[CHDchest]

Hi all - just got back from nearly 6 weeks overseas.

During that time I grew about 2cm so I am now:

Overbust: 34.75in
Underbust: 30in

I think I may have measured incorrectly to start with but I have grown at least one inch since I started nearly 3 months ago.

All I really did overseas was listen to the PetitMorte hypnosis once a day (either at night or in the morning) and subliminals. There is more information about those things here:
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=7922

The proof is in the fitting - most of my 32A's now look ridiculous on me - I spill out over the sides and top. Some of my smaller fitting 32Bs also look a bit tight and only a couple of my bras fit now.

I have a goal that once I reach 89-90cm (about 36in) I will let myself go bra shopping because then I really should fit the next sizes up (32C/ 34B) properly. In the mean time I will wash the bras that don't fit and give them to charity and make do with the ones I have.

[christinaaah]

Congrats on your growth! And just from massage, hypnosis, and diet! I'm jealous!

I kind of want to try hypnosis.. but it scares me a bit. Like what if they're tapping into your subliminal and brainwashing you or something lol.

[CHDchest]

Thanks Christinaaah,

I think a little bit of that growth was weight gain because I lost a little over the last couple of days but I still have around 3/4 in in 3 months. It's not quite what they boast in the hypnosis studies but I'm going to try and keep it up for another 3 months and see what happens. If nothing else it gives me a little "me" time and helps me feel better about myself.

I also got in touch with the Noogleberry people by emailing Lucy at sales. She seems very kind and helpful and they have medium contoured cups now which might be just what I need given my scoliosis and weird armpit boobs (well sort of). I am kind of on the fence and need to tell my husband about this because he will wonder what the ring marks are otherwise!

Best of luck to you in your growth Christinaaah!

CHDchest

[CHDchest]

So the Noogleberry idea didn't go down well. He thought I would hurt myself with it. I am still looking at getting one cheap of ebay and hiding it anyway. In the meantime I have made my own pump out of medical devices, cardboard and a vacuum cleaner (no really). For the cups I used the two halves of the spacer from my asthma puffer. They are different shapes but the circumference is around 11 cm. For tubing I used a mixture of rolled up cardboard tubes and the plastic tubing from my cliniflow (about the only advantage to heart surgery!!). For suction I put the two halves of the spacer on my breasts and jam the ends of the cardboard roles into the end of the vaccum cleaner. I run the vacuum cleaner on low and every 10-15 mins or so take it off and hold heat pads on my breasts. So far I have got 1 cm sweeling from this. I am also trying to order a bradelis bra off a japanese website given the postage cost from the US. I think if I worked on the shape I would fit a 34B properly and wouldn't be far off a 34C. For years I wore a 32A which was my size when I was about 13 or 14. I think my correct size to begin with was 34A, so I have gone 1-2cm up to a 34B since the end of Jan.

[CHDchest]

So I got my noogleberry in the mail today, size medium. It fits and I can get suction, even found a way to type at the computer with it on - put the domes on chest, pump them enough to stay, hold pump between knees and pump as necessary to keep domes on. I can feel a bit of a pull when I use it which I guess is good. It didn't come with instructions so I had to figure it all out myself (I got it second hand off ebay for about $28. I think it looks great on, the problem is when I take it off there's no swelling. Still, I'm hoping it will help with visualisation to see what I look like with (I'm assuming D's) with the pump on.

[CHDchest]

I think I've managed to pump for around 4 hours. I really like it - had a lovely long bath with it this morning after hubby left. I wish I could tell him about it. But for now I have to hide it well - it's just in my work bag at the moment which he would have no reason to open/ touch. I think I got a little bit of swelling (they looked a bit bigger after the hydro noogling in the bath) and I got some arnica cream to prevent bruising because of my blood thinning meds. I'm being really careful not to over pump after I saw a lady's photos on the noogleberry forum - her breasts were dark purple with bruises which took over a week to go away!

[CHDchest]

After cardiac rehab today I decided I would go to a proper lingerie store and overcome my fear of being sized. At 13-14 I got sized in a department store and it was just awkward - the lady had trouble measuring me because of my back brace and bought this other woman in, so there were four of us (including my mum and me) in the change room. Anyway, I went it today and the lady serving me had ear problems, so she talked really loud. There was another guy in the store with a pram, so I guess his partner was trying stuff on. I had this really ugly sports bra on and she measured me over the the top of it - I came out as in between 10B and 10C, better than I had hoped for. I guess four months of NBE must be doing something. We went and looked through the racks and she was talking the whole time "DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? WE DON'T HAVE ANY 10C's LEFT IN THIS ONE... I'M SORRY FOR YELLING I'M NOT BEING RUDE." The man with the pram was watching us smiling and I said "I think I would have been embarrassed if I was still a teenager." So it wasn't the most subtle experience, but I came out with a gorgeous dark blue push up in a 10C so I guess it was worth it!