[rocketmelon]

I've not found any post that details at what point of the cycle phyto-estrogens, anti-androgens, and phyto-progestins should be taken. And if there was one, I must have missed it, or misunderstood it. Can anyone shed light on this, in a nutshell?

I'll do my best

alrighty progestins are ltaken highest pms week as most women are estrogen dominant at this time ......progestin is best taken by cream I'm hearing...but fennel seed, damiaina leaf, oregano spice , and licorice root have it in them chemically so I think orally is cool too
creams are mostly cycled taken only on lutal phrase or just pms week

cycling is usually done with very strong hormone plants... (hops in large doses for example) pm is a very high estrogen (most common on here cycled) , weaker estrogen can interfere with it's proprieties and chemistry so that is why it is taken alone when cycled
it's is cycled by being taken after ovulation (after period) for 10 days
then weak estrogen, prolactin herbs are taken through the rest of the cycle ...........pms week or after cycling pm some use pc as well as herbs



in nutshell
after period : highest estrogens (pm must be taken with no weak other estrogen )
high progesterone: pms time
rest of cycle: most people take fg! prolactin, weak estro, etc
anti-androgens ...licorice is a weak estrogen so you can't take with ..pm.. (it's also got progest..) .lots on here don't cycle spearmint or sp however(sp can lower estrgen too but lots use it with great results anyway)

a very very nutshell beginner plan would be
high estrogen (most like pm) taken after period for 10 days
weak estro, prolaction herb (best most popular FG) take with fennel seeds (for your progest) take sp throughout
but you can add most nbe herbs to your non-pm days just don't over do high estros !


do not go crazy on doses if your start starting ramp it up small to high on each herbs for so you don't shock your body xD


as well as cycling short breaks ever few days,months weeks on different herbs helps your boy not get used to what you put in it ;]




pm: pueraria mirifica
SW: saw palmetto
FG: fenugreek
pc: progesterone cream
just case you knew





links to buy
sorry I use £ but just example..just encase it helps you get an idea




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fennel-Seeds-Whole-200g-/321374044497?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Food_SM&hash=item4ad362c151

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160883564079?var=460116058356&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ainterol-Pueraria-Mirifica-Big-Breast-Hips-Buttocks-Capsules-500-mg-x-100-Pills-/201055166577?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ecfd26071

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-menogest-progesterone-cream-97-natural-2-fl-oz-59-ml-cream


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SWANSON-SAW-PALMETTO-540MG-250-CAP-/261480033265?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Vitamins_Supplements&hash=item3ce16cabf1


this is as far as I understand ...if I'm wrong somebody on here should correct me hopefully c=..but it's what I'm going by... hope I helped good luck ;DDDD
sorry if I went off topic trying advise you..just wanted to help xD
if theres spelly mistakys well I dyslexic-o sorry xDD