[Wintermoon]

Thank you for the replies, it's very much appreciated!

Is there any where I could get these products using PayPal as the payment method? Amazon doesn't accept it and after a bad experience using my card I refuse to use it for online payments.

I'm also still interested in hearing from anyone who has used Biovea - threads on here from between 2011 - 2012 seem quite positive but other things I've dug up that have been posted more recently are pretty negative.

I've also been looking into the PM cream they do - any thoughts on that?

Thanks again!