07-06-2014, 14:30
Wow, it's been a long time since I updated this. That's what I get for being a lurker by nature.
myboobs; Haha, I'm not even that new to this, I think I just kept the crazy. :3 (Thanks for the welcoming though.)
blessedbreasts; I couldn't drink it daily, as within about 3 days I noticed my (physical) libido died, and I started getting pretty grumpy. Turns out the BCP I was on also acted as an anti-androgen, which may have explained it.
So on to the actual update (WARNING: WALL o' TEXT):
So as kinda mentioned above, my BCP (Yasmin) was having an interesting impact on my progress. I only learned this when I decided to switch to the mini-pill, and had some drastic changes....
While following the aforementioned NBE plan I had, I noticed a bit of glandular tissue growth, and interestingly, fat storage. Yasmin, acting as both an anti-androgen and additional (albeit, fake) estrogen gave me some interesting effects while on it for about 5-6 months. The herbs I was taking may have also helped.
Good Effects:
-Little to no acne, clearest looking skin I've had in 3 years
-Way slower body hair growth and a reduction of hair in a few areas (treasure trail, less peach fuzz on face). Also, body hair was way softer.
-Thicker hair on head, less oil production over all (had to start using conditioner, but was amazing for skin)
-Massive change in body fat storage. Weight moved from stomach to hips, butt and chest. Smaller waist. Face also stored more chubb and I looked younger and healthier.
-I didn't see much of an issue with moods while on it. Felt a whole helluava lot feminine, which kinda weirded me out. (So used to being more masculine looking\feeling)
Bad effects: (Sorry if a bit TMI)
-Random moderate bleeding every other pack of pills, starting at the second week of actives (week after withdrawal bleeding), wouldn't stop unless I stopped taking them. Could have been due to herbs though.
-Physical sex drive destroyed (My brain was up for it, but my body would not respond. Super frustrating) Super dry and prone to damage down there too.
-Increase in social anxiety, but decrease in overall anxiety. (Was scared to interact with people I knew, but less issues going out to places with lots of people, interacting with cashiers, ect)
So anyways, in the week break before I switched over to the minipill, I also stopped donq quai and maca, since I don't trust mucking around with hormones as much with the new pill. I got super emotional and anxious out of no where, had a panic attack and blew a shift at work.
As soon as I started Micronor, with all it majestic (once again, sadly, fake) progesterone, I was suddenly super calm, no anxiety at all. Downside is, this pill acts as an androgen as well.
In the period of 2ish weeks, my fat went back to it's normal distrubution. No weight gain or loss. Blurg.
Measurements went from ~B36.5\UB31 W28\H39 to 36\32 30\36.
I kept the tissue growth in my boobs, which was thankfully what had accounted for most of their growth. I also gained muscle out of no where.
Also, (again sorry if TMI) libido came back full force, dryness issue almost gone. Woot! The one bonus....
So after all this I got to thinking (I think I smell something burning...) about where my hormones are. (I can no longer afford to get saliva testing due to job change; less money, but less stress). I'm thinking estrogen\androgen ratio is out of whack, either I make too many androgens (possibly due to insulin resistance, I do way better on a diet close to Paleo) or my estrogen is kinda low and the androgens are dominant.
I feel that there may be a connection between high androgen ratio and tuberous breasts, in some, but not all cases. Elevated androgens during puberty seems to be the culprit. Seems to try to develop the chest more like a males, especially if the issue onsets early. (I was a furry beast at 7-8 years old) It's worth noting that a portion of (older) males trying to grow breasts have tuberous growth, or a deficiency of lower poles, and some females with PCOS, atleast from what little info I've found.
Internet why you make this difficult. (Please please please don't take this as anything but a theory.)
So as an experiment, I decided to see if spearmint tea and\or PM might help. Currently only drinking tea, kinda worried about the impact of PM on progesterone only birth control, I know I would have to take them at the same time to maintain the stability of hormones, but unsure if there will be any other impact.
So far, spearmint tea is still a bit strong for me to use every day, so it's every other. Noticed a slight change in the body fat, a bit's back on the hips, and waist is 1" smaller. (36\31.5 29\37)
(If you actually made it all the way down here, I think I owe you a unicorn. That's alot of text.))
Every time my body does stuff like this it just end up teaching me more about how awesome herbs are, how complex the endocrine system is and how a slight deviance from the balance can mess up so many things. And teaches me how important research is.
myboobs; Haha, I'm not even that new to this, I think I just kept the crazy. :3 (Thanks for the welcoming though.)
blessedbreasts; I couldn't drink it daily, as within about 3 days I noticed my (physical) libido died, and I started getting pretty grumpy. Turns out the BCP I was on also acted as an anti-androgen, which may have explained it.
So on to the actual update (WARNING: WALL o' TEXT):
So as kinda mentioned above, my BCP (Yasmin) was having an interesting impact on my progress. I only learned this when I decided to switch to the mini-pill, and had some drastic changes....
While following the aforementioned NBE plan I had, I noticed a bit of glandular tissue growth, and interestingly, fat storage. Yasmin, acting as both an anti-androgen and additional (albeit, fake) estrogen gave me some interesting effects while on it for about 5-6 months. The herbs I was taking may have also helped.
Good Effects:
-Little to no acne, clearest looking skin I've had in 3 years
-Way slower body hair growth and a reduction of hair in a few areas (treasure trail, less peach fuzz on face). Also, body hair was way softer.
-Thicker hair on head, less oil production over all (had to start using conditioner, but was amazing for skin)
-Massive change in body fat storage. Weight moved from stomach to hips, butt and chest. Smaller waist. Face also stored more chubb and I looked younger and healthier.
-I didn't see much of an issue with moods while on it. Felt a whole helluava lot feminine, which kinda weirded me out. (So used to being more masculine looking\feeling)
Bad effects: (Sorry if a bit TMI)
-Random moderate bleeding every other pack of pills, starting at the second week of actives (week after withdrawal bleeding), wouldn't stop unless I stopped taking them. Could have been due to herbs though.
-Physical sex drive destroyed (My brain was up for it, but my body would not respond. Super frustrating) Super dry and prone to damage down there too.
-Increase in social anxiety, but decrease in overall anxiety. (Was scared to interact with people I knew, but less issues going out to places with lots of people, interacting with cashiers, ect)
So anyways, in the week break before I switched over to the minipill, I also stopped donq quai and maca, since I don't trust mucking around with hormones as much with the new pill. I got super emotional and anxious out of no where, had a panic attack and blew a shift at work.
As soon as I started Micronor, with all it majestic (once again, sadly, fake) progesterone, I was suddenly super calm, no anxiety at all. Downside is, this pill acts as an androgen as well.
In the period of 2ish weeks, my fat went back to it's normal distrubution. No weight gain or loss. Blurg.
Measurements went from ~B36.5\UB31 W28\H39 to 36\32 30\36.
I kept the tissue growth in my boobs, which was thankfully what had accounted for most of their growth. I also gained muscle out of no where.
Also, (again sorry if TMI) libido came back full force, dryness issue almost gone. Woot! The one bonus....
So after all this I got to thinking (I think I smell something burning...) about where my hormones are. (I can no longer afford to get saliva testing due to job change; less money, but less stress). I'm thinking estrogen\androgen ratio is out of whack, either I make too many androgens (possibly due to insulin resistance, I do way better on a diet close to Paleo) or my estrogen is kinda low and the androgens are dominant.
I feel that there may be a connection between high androgen ratio and tuberous breasts, in some, but not all cases. Elevated androgens during puberty seems to be the culprit. Seems to try to develop the chest more like a males, especially if the issue onsets early. (I was a furry beast at 7-8 years old) It's worth noting that a portion of (older) males trying to grow breasts have tuberous growth, or a deficiency of lower poles, and some females with PCOS, atleast from what little info I've found.
Internet why you make this difficult. (Please please please don't take this as anything but a theory.)So as an experiment, I decided to see if spearmint tea and\or PM might help. Currently only drinking tea, kinda worried about the impact of PM on progesterone only birth control, I know I would have to take them at the same time to maintain the stability of hormones, but unsure if there will be any other impact.
So far, spearmint tea is still a bit strong for me to use every day, so it's every other. Noticed a slight change in the body fat, a bit's back on the hips, and waist is 1" smaller. (36\31.5 29\37)
(If you actually made it all the way down here, I think I owe you a unicorn. That's alot of text.))
Every time my body does stuff like this it just end up teaching me more about how awesome herbs are, how complex the endocrine system is and how a slight deviance from the balance can mess up so many things. And teaches me how important research is.