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Does provide a little testosterone, no mention of other hormones: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/87585-bovine-bull-glandular-orchic-testicular-concentrate.html
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/131710-i-heard-bovine-orchic-extract-can-cause-u-test-poistive-steroids.html
Not very well known among bodybuilders and generally thought to be a very minor source of testosterone: http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/testicles_anyone
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/threads/89699-Winnibol
http://forums.menshealth.com/topic/63643898175525980?reply=63643898175525993
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=108357231
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/diet_performance_nutrition_supplements/testicles_anyone
It's considered "old school" in that bodybuilders used to like it but it has fallen on the wayside to stronger options, like pure testosterone which you already tried. So yeah it may work a little... for muscle and testosterone.


The big question is does it increase FSH + LH, which are important to ball size. Whereas testosterone will shrink your balls by reducing your own production. For FSH+LH. you would want pituatary extract. Here is a study on temporary help of hypo-pituatary from pituatary extract:
http://www.allthingsmale.com/forum/showthread.php?20188-Raw-Pituitary-Glandular-Extract-for-hypopituirary
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20010970
If anything you should probably get pituitary gland extract, however if it's anything like the bovine orchic then it is probably a small effect.

The second question is dosage. I think the typical dose for bovine ovary extract is 2,000-2,500 mg. Not sure how much bovine orchic extract or statuary extract is good but that at least gives you a ball park. I have seen various supplements carrying 1,000-2,000 mg so you at least know that's not an overdose. Standard process orchic has about 200 mg and recommends 3 a day, so it sounds like a rip off. Symplex M has 45 mg bovine orchic extract and 10 mg bovine pituatary extract and recommends 4 a day. Likewise sounds like a rip off.

In short I think bovine orchic will work... much like a weaker version of the testosterone you were already taking. Good for muscle and maleness, bad for your balls. Bovine pituitary is the more likely way to go, but still with a pretty small effect. Standard Process orchic or pituatary OTOH is likely to be completely worthless due to the dose.

This isn't unknown territory. You can read and read about actual users rather than users here taking something somewhat related. It is unpopular among recent bodybuilders for a reason, and even old school bodybuilders used huge amounts for a reason. Now their typical drug solutions for shrunken balls include aromatase inhibitor drugs, SERMs (anti-estrogen) drugs and HCG (hormone that imitates LH). Their typical herbal solutions are 100:1 tongkat ali extract and Testofen which is highly concentrated fenugreek extract. If they test high for prolactin then there are dopamine drugs or for herbs there is vitex. They know full well that testosterone aka steroids shrinks their testicles not enlarges them. Which is why they resort to these solutions. And testosterone is made in the testicles, so that's not the organ you want. You can read thousands of examples of these in their forums. Personally I've made my balls literally 10 times larger with herbs, along with associated testosterone effects and other male effects. All of the listed drugs are dangerous btw and shouldn't be used carelessly or they could quickly cause permanent damage in most people. Ideally you get a doctor's prescription for any drug. The herbs listed are usually totally harmless. Bovine glandulars are likely to be safe because even though it has the same hormones as the drugs it is a low amount so you are unlikely to overdose.

surferjoe2007
thanks. I am confused about funegreek seeds. I remember I read a study that funegreek seeds destroy balls of rats.