[hannah]

3,000 mg MSM or chicken's feet broth. You can eat collagen foods like home made broth (no bullion), chicken skin, pho with tendon and tripe, etc. but it will take quite a lot. Regardless of the source it will take a while to build up reserves. Your joints and skin need collagen too.

Go braless whenever practical, except when jogging then use a good sports bra.

Bench press. Not too many reps. You want heavy weight for bulk chest muscle not endurance. If you can't get to equipment try weighted pushups or pectoral exercises with dumbbells. Google pectoral or chest exercises.

If they are tubular or otherwise not round try progesterone cream. But if not PC may lower estrogen and shouldn't be used alone.

A little outward pointing is normal though, as is a small amount of sag.

Chickens feet broth? Is that a soup made off chicken feet? I never heard off it and i think it is hard to find here. I do eat a lot of chicken but i saw you already said to Ella it is not as high in collagen. Is a supplement form going well too?
I will do the excercises that is a good one i also will try to strengthen the neck area you feel when you eating gum. But the msm i dont know, it is a real doubt for me since i read you loose weight from it.
Dont know if this is true because i read soooo much about msm that I am kind of confused if i should take it or not..

edit: I am already braless most of the time and they are not tubular

I believe chicken's feet broth would be a chicken's foot, water, salt, simmer for a while. All collagen has sulfur in it, that's what the MSM is for: sulfur. One way or another you're getting sulfur if you get collagen. I haven't heard of losing weight from it and I've gotten a bit skeptical about hearing such and such might do such and such without quantifying it. Especially with weight loss. I don't think anything *forces* you to lose weight except painful starvation and even that doesn't work long term. Or causes terrible damage if you do. It all depends on the person's situation. If your body is trying to lose weight and it's missing that one nutrient needed to do so, than sure it'll aid weight loss. But if you're underweight I doubt any food for weight loss will make you lose even more weight. Rather you might be missing some nutrient you need to gain weight. People gotta stop being enemies with their bodies and blaming it for wrongs, and rather give it what it needs. I've never found any nutrient that can hurt you except in extreme amounts an order of magnitude above what you need. Or even more than that. I don't think MSM will hurt. Some people get an upset stomach at first though so start gradually. High collagen foods are even better because you get other random nutrients too, but likewise because of all the other random stuff in it you need to consume quite a lot to get enough sulfur.

Ya you probably don't need progesterone cream and you don't want to accidentally get too much progesterone. Though it takes a hormone test to be 100% sure. Other indications of low progesterone may include having more butt than chest, or other non-round shapes not only tubular; progesterone widens while estrogen lengthens. Heavy monthly bleeding too. High progesterone is the reverse: small butt compared to chest, super round/wide circular chest that may sometimes be mistaken for implants, and light irregular periods that have trouble coming. But that's not always the case and again a hormone test is the only way to be sure.

Ya exercises are good. Good luck. An example for the bench press is 8-12 reps and 3 sets, with a minute of rest in between. The more weight the more bulk you get, but don't hurt yourself.

Wow, you just know a lot about women, like more than most guys probably ,you even know the endocrine system better than i do.
When i listen to your story about shapes and hormones I think there is nothing wrong with my hormons maybe i have slightly less estrogen because i had short breasts not long ones. And they look a little like implants very round i have a average butt comparing to my body and i have wide hips so that doesnt make me really dominant off a certain hormone i guess. I have regular periods the only thing that is very inconsistent is the lenght off my cycle it varies from 2 days to 6 days and to amount off blood loss.
I dont have the money for a hormone test i only have the money for a saliva hormone test but those arent really reliable. So it is guessing.
I do think i have a problem in processing fat, when i eat something fat like fries or junkfood it is like my body cant process it and i just shit it out. So it is hard to hold this feminine layer of fat on my body.

I understand you are getting tired of such can do such and etcetera so do i.. The thing i read bout MSM is that it is anti inflammatory and therefore getting fluids and other compoments out of your cells which ofcourse couses weightloss. But if sulfur really causes skin tightening i should try it out and monitor my weight because i cant loose no more. For me it is really scary because one week i weigh 3 kilo heavier and the next week it is gone. I can have a difference of 5 kilo in only 2 weeks. There fore little concerns on using it.