[girljustgoingalong]

Wow Wahaika, I'm surprised at your views. :-/ I haven't been around for very long, but you seem to be one of the more respected members here and on other forums.

I'm a bit disturbed with the way you seem to state your moral views/opinions as fact. The fact is, morality is indeed relative. I have a friend who thinks it's morally wrong to eat meat, but to me it's perfectly fine. I think the only time things are universally wrong is when someone is inflicting pain and suffering (whether emotional or physical) on an innocent person. But this is all too complicated to discuss here on a breast forum.

I'm sure Cheryl has been to many doctors to discuss her decisions and if they deemed it healthy enough to proceed, I don't think she is harming herself. I could understand not wanting to encourage someone who is doing something incredibly unhealthy for the sake of physical appearance (like making themselves vomit to get thin), but I don't think that's the case with transgendered people.

And I actually did mean to use the word "right." As long as people aren't harming themselves, you're entitled to have the ability to make your body look the way you want it to look. You can dye your hair, get piercings, get tattoos, lose weight, gain weight, etc. As long as you're not cutting yourself or doing very harmful things, I don't see the problem. I personally don't find things like piercings/tattoos attractive (and the solution is simple, I just don't do these things to myself and don't date people who have them), but I don't have the right to tell others what to do because they might find it attractive. And since they're doing it to themselves and not me, I couldn't care less.

I'm not sure if you and Majestic are from very conservative countries/backgrounds, but not everybody is that conservative and not everyone has the same morals.

The fact is, the human race will never be able to agree on what is "moral" for every single issue, especially social issues. There are certain things that as human beings we just know are wrong, because most people have compassion. However, this applies to things like killing, torture, abuse, rape, etc. Things that don't harm others are more difficult to define (like sex before marriage, homosexuality, transgendered people, etc), and there's no way everyone is going to agree. Which is why the "live and let live" phrase exists. It's not harming you, so just worry about yourself, go on with your life, and don't worry about what someone else is doing.

And as for the women who left because they couldn't tolerate the presence of men, well that was their choice. They still had the ability to stay, but if they decided they didn't want to, then that was a decision they made. I think that's quite different from actually taking away the choice to stay here from male members. It's one thing to choose not to be somewhere, and it's a completely other thing to be banned from being somewhere.