[missboobshirt]

i have the same problem..pm makes my breast smaller..what is wrong??i am taking androgens,however,the ainterols capsules dontbwork for me :-( how could i make it effective to grow my breast?? Could i be estrogen dominant when i am veru slim,underweighted,flat chested without any bottom??

if PM is making your chest smaller I would stay clear away from phytoestrogens and focus on other kinds of nbe, maybe chaste tree or herbs that up progesterone. tbh I am in the same boat as you and I am not sure where to go next with herbs. I am looking into bovine ovary and Noogleberry.

also what do you mean you're taking androgens? do you mean anti androgens?

Yes, I mean antiandrogens (spearmint tea, sometimes saw palmetto)...sorry for my writing I really do not know...I am sure I am not estro dominant, I am taking PM in the follicular phase and in the luteal phase I take fenugreek, donq quai and wild yam..these are progesterone herbs, am I right?
I am desperate ..is it possible that the ainterol is not of a good quality? but then why does it does its job when talking about skin, hair and more beautiful look

All of those herbs you mentioned have phytoestrogen properties, I wouldnt take fenu during luteal, it doesn't promote progesterone like it does estrogen, fenu is a lot like PM just not as strong. your program sounds very estrogen based. spearmint is a very good anti androgen but it also ups your estrogen as well.

if you're over loading on estrogen it could very well be that your boobies are shrinking from this. You could probably continue all of those herbs if you balanced them with P herbs. Chasteberry is very good for P or a Progesterone cream, would be best during luteal phase.

take a look at this link-
http://www.breastnexus.com/showthread.php?tid=21602

I lived by that when I first started NBE

if your hair skin and nails are looking better it could be from the PM but it could also be from the spearmint- anti androgens lower testosterone that cause acne, hair loss, etc etc so either you adding so much E to your body is lowering your T or the anti androgens are doing their job.

If I were you I would take less E herbs, maybe just take PM during follic. and take a P cream or chaste berry during luteal. you really don't need to take PM and Fenu at the same time imo because they pretty much do the same thing and over loading will probably do more damage than good :/ Wild yam is also very E based. I believe dong quai is too but its a very good herb to balance hormones and skin and such and over all womanly problems ^^ so I would take that along with PM during follic and PC or chaste during luteal.

also have you considered the noogle berry?

No, I have not. I just massage them...ok, I have progesterone cream from now foods only. and could the chaste be also in a tea form?? so do u think that PM with dong quai would do its job?? this time happened the same, my period was lighter, with beautiful skin, hair, shiny eyes and face, however, my boobs have shrunk... and when I stopped the PM and started to take wild yam, fenu and spearmint , the boobs are starting to look fuller. So is it possible to be estro dominant? I do not understand some things...can a woman be estro dominant and still ahve low estrogen and progesterone? like boyish body?? I am totally confused :/ missboobshirt thank u very much for your advice, you are helping me so much

If they're starting to look fuller then PM can just be too much for you-- hey its alright, herbs are a guessing game, some work for women and some dont.. if you'e seeing results without PM, dont take PM it's a very strong estrogen herb, it could be over loading you.

I am not sure, it doesnt make sense to have low E if you're E dom, unless your hormones are really really low and you just so happen to have more E than anything but it's still a deficiency but if you were that messed up your body would be telling you something.

what kind of body do you have? you could be thin but still have a pear shape which might indicate E dom, when you have a lot of E a lot of fat goes to hips/butt/tummy.
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