[surferjoe2007]

Men being cavalier about gulping handfuls of herbs (while that might be a tiny bit true lol) is otherwise, well......BS.

Yeah there's a limit to how high anyone will go but it's more that I've seen far more women use a small amount of a weak herb than men. How many TG men say "I'll just take a couple thousand mg of fenugreek or fennel and see how that goes for a few months"?

A couple thousand mg is a far cry from 100,000 mg. Hopefully someone will advise them of the risks involved. If we learned anything here, its not worth the risk to ones health for the almighty boobs.

I see. By a lot I meant many spoonfuls of fenugreek or 1,000 mg PM. 100,000 mg is close to a quarter pound.

Always agreed on taking care of one's health first.

Thanks for the encouraging words Joe, ill stick with it and try the brown rice, I guess there a truth in there as I told before I had a friend eating brown sandwiches like crazy..

Just be patient. Stockpiling bricks (good food) is a lot less impressive short term than a foreman shouting "build build" (hormones). But it's better long term than a whole lot of shouting with no bricks to use.

And unlike a hormone it's incredibly difficult to overdose on any nutrient, especially from a food source. Especially not the largest food group. So yeah eat tons of brown rice.