07-01-2016, 21:32
Stephie,
You're talking about female bullying, which is far more covert than male bullying.
I can't add a whole lot, but I've read a bit on it. The "standard pattern" is sort of a backhanded complement, followed by an underhanded/quiet insult.
Social ostracism, rather than outright violence, as in males.
No less damaging (especially when you consider that women are generally more social. Men can go off on their own, the "hero" stories show this journey; heroines usually change society somehow, rather than strike our on their own to find adventure or build something.)
Possibly more damaging, in some ways.
-Jean
You're talking about female bullying, which is far more covert than male bullying.
I can't add a whole lot, but I've read a bit on it. The "standard pattern" is sort of a backhanded complement, followed by an underhanded/quiet insult.
Social ostracism, rather than outright violence, as in males.
No less damaging (especially when you consider that women are generally more social. Men can go off on their own, the "hero" stories show this journey; heroines usually change society somehow, rather than strike our on their own to find adventure or build something.)
Possibly more damaging, in some ways.
-Jean
(07-01-2016, 20:53)Stephie Wrote: Any movie that would feature Paris Hilton as a sorority girl, is the sort of movie that would give a very very false impression of what school life is like for girls and young women. I never saw that movie, so maybe I'm wrong to put it in the same category as those old semi-pornographic "comedies" where 20 somethings wear schoolgirl skirts, compare boobies, and have a pillow fight, lol. National Lampoon is probably still churning them out as if internet porn doesn't exist.
Also I'm not sure making fun of a young boy for having "moobs" is the same as making fun of young girl for not yet having developed breasts. Don't get me wrong, both are still terrible, and if there were adults involved, they should be ashamed. But boobs are sexualized even in young girls, so making fun of a young girl for having small breasts is viewed by some people as being nearly as bad as making fun of a middle school boy for having a small penis. Kids might still make fun of other kids for those reasons, but it's uncomfortable territory even for kids. Adults would (and probably should) feel like they had crossed a sexual line that shouldn't be crossed with children. Tldr: boy's and girls chests aren't treated as equivalent, for better or worse.
To answer your original question more directly: No, girls don't cheer each other on for developing during puberty, for the same reason guys don't throw each other penis parties every time one of them grows another inchOk, maybe thats an unfair exageration, but I hope you get my point. Teenage girls do complement each other on appearance constantly and effusively (whether they mean it or not). Not doing so is usually considered weird or even rude. It's not necessarily manipulative, it's more along the lines of asking someone how they're doing even if you couldn't care less. What they typically don't do is mention breast size, unless it's to say that they wish they had boobs as big hers etc. Weirdly jealous complements sometimes do come up, like "I wish I could steal your legs" or "I really hate how you can eat so much and still stay thin". But for the most part, the complements between girls are just passing pleasantries in the polite society of girls. Young girls are not entirely about back handed bitchery (though some does go on), and remember that's coming from someone who was made fun of constantly.
Last thing...I forgot to mention this last time, but I'm 30. To put that in perspective, shows like south park were wildly popular and internet pornography was already very widely available by the time I was in high school. I'm sure that had an effect on our attitudes about sexuality and our bodies. I also grew up in a pretty rough area, so don't think the kids around me were unusually reserved or something. I'm curious what much older or younger women have to say about this. I have read stories on here where girls were openly shamed for having small breasts, even by close family members. I can't imagine what that's like and I've never seen it myself, but that doesn't mean that it's uncommon. I can only speak from my own experience.