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Vitex followers
March 22 2007 at 12:32 AM Anonymous (no login)
Why did anyone start taking Vitex in the first place???
It seems to me, by reading the majority of the women's complaint posts on here, that vitex is a HORRIBLE addition to NBE.
Please tell me you guys weren't following someone blindly.
I know that's what NBE is about,(well, should be more about research than trial and error) but now it's clear that vitex doesn't do a thing for NBE.
faerycat
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Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 10:42 AM
Huh? How is vitex a horrible addition to NBE pray tell?
Vitex is the BEST herb I've EVER used :-D
Just wish I'd researched and taken it years ago.
For starters, it has stopped years of severe period cramps and PMS. It has cleared up 30 years of acne problems.......and after trying every pill, potion, lotion, med, treatment possible, I thought that nothing ever would, but vitex has! It has raised my libido and given me lots of energy......and yes I have had growth and fullness on it :-)
The way I think/feel it works is this - When most girls reach puberty, all of their hormones kick in at the right time and they develop into women as they should do, breasts, hips, healthy periods etc.
Now for some of us not so fortunate, I feel that when we reached puberty, all of the vital hormones didn't switch on properly like there was an imbalance or a blockage in the receptor signals.....not quite sure. But speaking personally, when I reached puberty, all that happened was I started having painful nasty periods and that was it. No breast growth, slight if any hip growth, plus I got acne which never cleared up all of my adult life.
After researching LOTS about vitex and reading that it actually balances your own hormones out, I decided to give it a try as I had always felt that was exactly what I needed........balanced hormones, and eventually it began to work for me. At the age of 42, I now have breasts (albeit, small ones), clear skin and curvy hips after going through 30 previous years of misery with a boy-like figure.
Personally, I feel that girls who developed with no problems at puberty, may not benefit from vitex in the same way. All women to do not grow large boobs. For some, an A or B cup is adequate growth for their frames/physique etc. But if they have grown to say an A or B cup at puberty.....then they grew!!! Which means, their hormones did what they were supposed to do at the time. Some of us never grew at all, and that is the difference.
I can't see vitex being of much, if any benefit (in the NBE department) to women who have been a larger cup size then deflated due to breastfeeding or losing weight or whatever. I can only see it helping those who never grew past the boy-flat stage of childhood. Course vitex will still benefit those women in other non-NBE ways.
I may be wrong, but after studying this for so long, there appears to be a common link between post-pubescents with no breast growth, acne and painful periods......although there are exceptions.
x
LovelyAmanda
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 5:01 PM
Yeah I agree with Faerycat 100%. I have no complaints with Vitex and I've been using it for almost three months. My moods are better, skin is great, no "shrinkage," and my libido has increased. Plus I feel tingles. No complaints here. We also have to keep in mind that some of the people with complaints are taking Vitex with other herbs and other products. I, however, am not until I give Vitex the full amount of time it needs to work. So anyone who is on it and has stuck with it, don't give up and stay focused. Like many of us already know, Vitex is a SLOW-acting herb and it takes sometimes up to 4-6 months to reach its full effects.
Best,
Amanda
Moon
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Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 5:04 PM
I would like to compare those who had success with it to those who shrunk in what their hormonal imbalance was. Did anyone try vitex who didn't have estrogen dominance or any significant imbalance?
Moonkissed
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 9:27 PM
I cannot say that in my case, I was following someone blindly.
I started taking chasteberries last October to help mainly with PMS and also with NBE (sort of killing two birds with one stone). Although there was little information about vitex in use of NBE, it *was* used for this purpose, nonetheless, and some women were using it before the mad rush to suddenly start using vitex. I read through many pages on chasteberries, and had to make up my own mind as to whether it would be useful to take. It meant browsing through site after site, and sifting through the sometimes contradictory information. Heck, one site even said that vitex did nothing for breast growth. One has to really make up one's mind as to whether this is going to work, or whether one can expect three or four months to go down the drain, if the vitex did not work.
Now, one inch of breast growth later, and better PMS to boot, I consider vitex to be one awesome herb for me. Even after I finish my NBE, I will still take chasteberries just for the PMS benefits alone.
We must remember that not every single NBE herb will work for every person. How many women have taken saw palmetto or fenugreek and saw no results? Or even products such as Wonderup? I have seen countless threads with women complaining about how some herbs did nothing for them. Does that mean we should immediately discard the herbs and never mention them again? If we only used herbs that every woman or man agreed had worked for NBE, we would be left with... nothing. That's right, zero, zip, nada. No one herb has been proven effective for *every* person. This is a trial and error process.
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Those who cannot remember the past will spend a lot of time looking for their cars in mall parking lots. -- Jay Trachman
Interwom
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Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 9:31 PM
Someone called Karen said it worked for her and that sparked a mad rush. I don't know if that's what you mean by blindly. People were aware at the time it was just one person's reported experience that they were reacting to.
Lillix
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Re: Vitex followers
March 23 2007, 12:48 AM
Anonymous you sound bitter. It sounds like you used vitex yourself, and then became disenchanted when it did nothing for you. Why else would you come on here and whine about why people are using vitex when its not working, and blah, blah, blah. It works apparently. Why try to bring those girls down? Just because a few girls didn't get their results doesnt mean it wont work for all. I dont use vitex, but geez Louise, Im getting bored of all these threads with girls b*tching about how vitex didnt help them. Some herbs just dont work for everybody, ladies. Get over it, and move on, and continue to lend support to those who have had success.
Julie
(no login)
Re: Vitex followers
March 23 2007, 2:02 PM
Can you tell me what a good dosage of Vitex is? DO you follow what the amount on the bottle says, or follow your own dosages?? I am considering buying Vitex because I am thinking I am estrogen dominant!! When on the BE board they had the links to take quizzes and It did say I was estrogen dominant, I would love to have this stupid acne to go away. I never had acne as a teenager and now that I am in my later 20's I have acne all the time. I am hateful and grouchy during ovulation all the way up to menstration too, so any advice on this would be greatly appreciated?
Anonymous
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lillix
March 24 2007, 1:06 AM
I've never taken Vitex, nor do I have desires to.
I'm simply bitching about how everyone was bitching about it in the first place without knowing what they were getting themselves into.
'tis all.
Oh and I already support a lot of the lovely ladies on here
March 22 2007 at 12:32 AM Anonymous (no login)
Why did anyone start taking Vitex in the first place???
It seems to me, by reading the majority of the women's complaint posts on here, that vitex is a HORRIBLE addition to NBE.
Please tell me you guys weren't following someone blindly.
I know that's what NBE is about,(well, should be more about research than trial and error) but now it's clear that vitex doesn't do a thing for NBE.
faerycat
(Login faerycat)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 10:42 AM
Huh? How is vitex a horrible addition to NBE pray tell?
Vitex is the BEST herb I've EVER used :-D
Just wish I'd researched and taken it years ago.
For starters, it has stopped years of severe period cramps and PMS. It has cleared up 30 years of acne problems.......and after trying every pill, potion, lotion, med, treatment possible, I thought that nothing ever would, but vitex has! It has raised my libido and given me lots of energy......and yes I have had growth and fullness on it :-)
The way I think/feel it works is this - When most girls reach puberty, all of their hormones kick in at the right time and they develop into women as they should do, breasts, hips, healthy periods etc.
Now for some of us not so fortunate, I feel that when we reached puberty, all of the vital hormones didn't switch on properly like there was an imbalance or a blockage in the receptor signals.....not quite sure. But speaking personally, when I reached puberty, all that happened was I started having painful nasty periods and that was it. No breast growth, slight if any hip growth, plus I got acne which never cleared up all of my adult life.
After researching LOTS about vitex and reading that it actually balances your own hormones out, I decided to give it a try as I had always felt that was exactly what I needed........balanced hormones, and eventually it began to work for me. At the age of 42, I now have breasts (albeit, small ones), clear skin and curvy hips after going through 30 previous years of misery with a boy-like figure.
Personally, I feel that girls who developed with no problems at puberty, may not benefit from vitex in the same way. All women to do not grow large boobs. For some, an A or B cup is adequate growth for their frames/physique etc. But if they have grown to say an A or B cup at puberty.....then they grew!!! Which means, their hormones did what they were supposed to do at the time. Some of us never grew at all, and that is the difference.
I can't see vitex being of much, if any benefit (in the NBE department) to women who have been a larger cup size then deflated due to breastfeeding or losing weight or whatever. I can only see it helping those who never grew past the boy-flat stage of childhood. Course vitex will still benefit those women in other non-NBE ways.
I may be wrong, but after studying this for so long, there appears to be a common link between post-pubescents with no breast growth, acne and painful periods......although there are exceptions.
x
LovelyAmanda
(Login LovelyAmanda)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 5:01 PM
Yeah I agree with Faerycat 100%. I have no complaints with Vitex and I've been using it for almost three months. My moods are better, skin is great, no "shrinkage," and my libido has increased. Plus I feel tingles. No complaints here. We also have to keep in mind that some of the people with complaints are taking Vitex with other herbs and other products. I, however, am not until I give Vitex the full amount of time it needs to work. So anyone who is on it and has stuck with it, don't give up and stay focused. Like many of us already know, Vitex is a SLOW-acting herb and it takes sometimes up to 4-6 months to reach its full effects.
Best,
Amanda
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 5:04 PM
I would like to compare those who had success with it to those who shrunk in what their hormonal imbalance was. Did anyone try vitex who didn't have estrogen dominance or any significant imbalance?
Moonkissed
(Login Moonkissed)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 9:27 PM
I cannot say that in my case, I was following someone blindly.
I started taking chasteberries last October to help mainly with PMS and also with NBE (sort of killing two birds with one stone). Although there was little information about vitex in use of NBE, it *was* used for this purpose, nonetheless, and some women were using it before the mad rush to suddenly start using vitex. I read through many pages on chasteberries, and had to make up my own mind as to whether it would be useful to take. It meant browsing through site after site, and sifting through the sometimes contradictory information. Heck, one site even said that vitex did nothing for breast growth. One has to really make up one's mind as to whether this is going to work, or whether one can expect three or four months to go down the drain, if the vitex did not work.Now, one inch of breast growth later, and better PMS to boot, I consider vitex to be one awesome herb for me. Even after I finish my NBE, I will still take chasteberries just for the PMS benefits alone.
We must remember that not every single NBE herb will work for every person. How many women have taken saw palmetto or fenugreek and saw no results? Or even products such as Wonderup? I have seen countless threads with women complaining about how some herbs did nothing for them. Does that mean we should immediately discard the herbs and never mention them again? If we only used herbs that every woman or man agreed had worked for NBE, we would be left with... nothing. That's right, zero, zip, nada. No one herb has been proven effective for *every* person. This is a trial and error process.
-------------------------
Those who cannot remember the past will spend a lot of time looking for their cars in mall parking lots. -- Jay Trachman
Interwom
(no login)
Re: Vitex followers
March 22 2007, 9:31 PM
Someone called Karen said it worked for her and that sparked a mad rush. I don't know if that's what you mean by blindly. People were aware at the time it was just one person's reported experience that they were reacting to.
Lillix
(no login)
Re: Vitex followers
March 23 2007, 12:48 AM
Anonymous you sound bitter. It sounds like you used vitex yourself, and then became disenchanted when it did nothing for you. Why else would you come on here and whine about why people are using vitex when its not working, and blah, blah, blah. It works apparently. Why try to bring those girls down? Just because a few girls didn't get their results doesnt mean it wont work for all. I dont use vitex, but geez Louise, Im getting bored of all these threads with girls b*tching about how vitex didnt help them. Some herbs just dont work for everybody, ladies. Get over it, and move on, and continue to lend support to those who have had success.
Julie
(no login)
Re: Vitex followers
March 23 2007, 2:02 PM
Can you tell me what a good dosage of Vitex is? DO you follow what the amount on the bottle says, or follow your own dosages?? I am considering buying Vitex because I am thinking I am estrogen dominant!! When on the BE board they had the links to take quizzes and It did say I was estrogen dominant, I would love to have this stupid acne to go away. I never had acne as a teenager and now that I am in my later 20's I have acne all the time. I am hateful and grouchy during ovulation all the way up to menstration too, so any advice on this would be greatly appreciated?
Anonymous
(no login)
lillix
March 24 2007, 1:06 AM
I've never taken Vitex, nor do I have desires to.
I'm simply bitching about how everyone was bitching about it in the first place without knowing what they were getting themselves into.
'tis all.
Oh and I already support a lot of the lovely ladies on here