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I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007 at 8:39 PM Katrina (Login mountainkat)
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Okay, I have been reading that Vitex decreases prolactin, but from most websites I have read that prolactin is necessary for breast enhancement and you wan't to increase your prolactin! So how does women grow with Vitex if this is the case?
Also, if vitex is a progesterone based herb as I have read on here, then wouldn't it cause problems if used long-term because you need more estrogen to grow breasts and it seems to lower estrogen!
I would appreciate anyone's advice who can clear up my confusion.
faerycat
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Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007, 9:19 PM
Vitex is not a progesterone based herb!!!
How does vitex help?
First of all, what does it not do? Vitex does not act as a phytoestrogen (plant estrogen), a term commonly associated with balancing the female reproductive system. Vitex works through another important chemical pathway, the hypothalamus-pituitary axis, to balance female hormones. Vitex increases luteinizing hormone production while inhibiting the release of follicle stimulating hormone, leading to an indirect increase in progesterone and a normalization of prolactin levels. The combination of actions produced by vitex seems to restore the estrogen/progesterone balance.
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T165057.html
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faerycat
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Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007, 9:24 PM
Lol! I like the paragraph near the bottom of the page of the link I just posted. It says -
1) Your attitude determines your outcome. Successful people embrace this truth, whether it is a doctor going into surgery, a pastor preparing a sermon or a business-person launching a new venture. Confidence increases your chance of success every time. When you approach a task, especially one you do not relish, fix your mind on the facts, not your feelings. That will put your attitude on the right track.
2) Your attitude toward others determines their attitude toward you. Smile at people and they will probably smile back. Act hard-nosed and they are likely to snap at you. If you want to enjoy people as you go through your day, treat them well. This is not rocket science, but it is easily forgotten - and it is scriptural!
3) Your attitude gives you the winning edge. When world heavyweight champion Joe Louis got knocked down by Tony 'Two Ton' Galento in Yankee Stadium, he immediately jumped back to his feet and went after his opponent. When his trainer protested saying, 'Why didn't you stay down for nine?' Louis said, 'What! And give him a chance to rest.' Louis went out in the fourth round and won the fight. Possessing a great attitude always gives you the winning edge.
4) Your attitude, not your achievements, brings happiness. Samuel Johnson, the 18th Century poet, stated, 'He who has so little knowledge of human nature as to seek happiness by changing anything but his own disposition, will waste his life in fruitless efforts, and multiply the grief which he purposes to remove.' Think about it!
Positive attitude comin' at ya!
x
Katrina
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Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007, 9:33 PM
Okay, but doesn't it still decrease prolactin, which is need for breast enlargement?
Moonkissed
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Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 17 2007, 1:24 AM
From what I read, vitex does not decrease prolactin, but rather normalizes the hormone. It appears to lower prolactin only in women who are suffering with hyperprolactinemia.
*Vitex and hyperprolactinemia*
The modulating effect of Vitex on Prolactin was confirmed in a double blind placebo trial examining the effect of a proprietary Vitex preparation on 52 women. The daily doses of Vitex extract was 20mg and the study lasted for three months. Hormonal analysis was performed on day 58 and day 20 of the cycle both before and after three months of the therapy. Prolactin release was significantly reduced in the Vitex group. Shortened luteal phases and deficits in progesterone production were normalised. No side effects were noted.
(http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Herbal/atkin23.htm)
January 16 2007 at 8:39 PM Katrina (Login mountainkat)
SENIOR MEMBER
Okay, I have been reading that Vitex decreases prolactin, but from most websites I have read that prolactin is necessary for breast enhancement and you wan't to increase your prolactin! So how does women grow with Vitex if this is the case?
Also, if vitex is a progesterone based herb as I have read on here, then wouldn't it cause problems if used long-term because you need more estrogen to grow breasts and it seems to lower estrogen!
I would appreciate anyone's advice who can clear up my confusion.
faerycat
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007, 9:19 PM
Vitex is not a progesterone based herb!!!
How does vitex help?
First of all, what does it not do? Vitex does not act as a phytoestrogen (plant estrogen), a term commonly associated with balancing the female reproductive system. Vitex works through another important chemical pathway, the hypothalamus-pituitary axis, to balance female hormones. Vitex increases luteinizing hormone production while inhibiting the release of follicle stimulating hormone, leading to an indirect increase in progesterone and a normalization of prolactin levels. The combination of actions produced by vitex seems to restore the estrogen/progesterone balance.
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T165057.html
x
faerycat
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007, 9:24 PM
Lol! I like the paragraph near the bottom of the page of the link I just posted. It says -
1) Your attitude determines your outcome. Successful people embrace this truth, whether it is a doctor going into surgery, a pastor preparing a sermon or a business-person launching a new venture. Confidence increases your chance of success every time. When you approach a task, especially one you do not relish, fix your mind on the facts, not your feelings. That will put your attitude on the right track.
2) Your attitude toward others determines their attitude toward you. Smile at people and they will probably smile back. Act hard-nosed and they are likely to snap at you. If you want to enjoy people as you go through your day, treat them well. This is not rocket science, but it is easily forgotten - and it is scriptural!
3) Your attitude gives you the winning edge. When world heavyweight champion Joe Louis got knocked down by Tony 'Two Ton' Galento in Yankee Stadium, he immediately jumped back to his feet and went after his opponent. When his trainer protested saying, 'Why didn't you stay down for nine?' Louis said, 'What! And give him a chance to rest.' Louis went out in the fourth round and won the fight. Possessing a great attitude always gives you the winning edge.
4) Your attitude, not your achievements, brings happiness. Samuel Johnson, the 18th Century poet, stated, 'He who has so little knowledge of human nature as to seek happiness by changing anything but his own disposition, will waste his life in fruitless efforts, and multiply the grief which he purposes to remove.' Think about it!
Positive attitude comin' at ya!
x
Katrina
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 16 2007, 9:33 PM
Okay, but doesn't it still decrease prolactin, which is need for breast enlargement?
Moonkissed
(Login Moonkissed)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: I am confused about Vitex!
January 17 2007, 1:24 AM
From what I read, vitex does not decrease prolactin, but rather normalizes the hormone. It appears to lower prolactin only in women who are suffering with hyperprolactinemia.
*Vitex and hyperprolactinemia*
The modulating effect of Vitex on Prolactin was confirmed in a double blind placebo trial examining the effect of a proprietary Vitex preparation on 52 women. The daily doses of Vitex extract was 20mg and the study lasted for three months. Hormonal analysis was performed on day 58 and day 20 of the cycle both before and after three months of the therapy. Prolactin release was significantly reduced in the Vitex group. Shortened luteal phases and deficits in progesterone production were normalised. No side effects were noted.
(http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Herbal/atkin23.htm)