[Huggy]

By the way, another exception I found is white peony. However I think it's already been sufficiently covered by myself and others why white peony (peoniflorin being the active compound) doesn't work that well. If you think what I've discovered about coumarin is prohibitive, white peony is worse. It's a very effective androgen blocker on several levels, upregulation of aromatase, downregulation or 17-beta-HSD, downregulation of 5-alpha-reductase, and androgen receptor antagonism... however the required dose is so high that it's literally impossible to reach, and I'm not just talking about cost, I'm talking about actually consuming that many grams of rhizome (improperly referred to as root by most people, the roots are actually trimmed away from the rhizome and unused, rhizome is literally underground stem).

Hi Abi

Great to see you back. I joined just about the time you took your break, but have definitely been aware of and appreciate your contribution to BN :-)

Your comment about peony caught my eye. I did try a search of your thread but couldn't find the comments you refer to?

To save you repeating yourself, perhaps you could point me in the right direction please? And would this also apply to tincture taken sublingually?

Thanks.

Huggy