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confused about wild yam.....
July 24 2007 at 10:33 AM Davilee (Login Davi-lee)
Can I get an answer about which is really best...the "whole herb" wild yam or the extracted USP Progesterone.
Im confused.
One person said that only the wild yam itself will be a precursor to progesterone then the next entry would say just the opposite,that only the USP PROG.extracted from diosgenin will work.
Can someone clarify this?
Im getting ready to buy one of these and I thought I knew what I wanted until now.
Thanks!
Nell Gwynne
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Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 24 2007, 8:16 PM
I've noticed the same thing, so you're not the only one who is confused about wild yam.
Snowflake
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Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 11:20 AM
Wild Yam is a rather weak herb for NBE compared to Black cohash and Red Clover. It did help me with ovarian pain before my periods though. If your going to put out money for herbs, I would drop Wild yam and go for something stronger and with more assured info. Red clover would be my first choice as black cohash has had reviews in regards to liver damage. There is just too many contradictions over WY converting in the body. Good luck!
Moon
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Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 11:38 AM
WY does not contain progesterone, it contains diosgenin. Diosgenin is not a precursor to progesterone, but it is a compund similar to progesterone and will bind to progesetrone receptors and elicit progesetronic effects (but weaker).
Wild Sheep
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Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 12:28 PM
Diosgenin is used to make synthetic progesterone and this can be done in a laboratory environment but there are no proofs that it can be done by itself in the body by taking wild yam as extract, capsules or cream.
Cynthia
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Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 5:35 PM
Wild Yam
Wild Yam helps relieve PMS and menopausal symptoms, and promotes hormonal balance. It contains the estrogenic substances diosgenin and pregnenolone. Wild yam also has antispasmodic and anti-inflammatory properties due in part to cortisone-like constituents. Diosgenin itself, is weakly antispasmodic. Wild yam has been used to allay nausea due to high hormone levels. This may be due to competition for estrogen receptor sites by diosgenin. Wild yam is especially indicated for spastic uterine contractions with nausea, boring pain radiating from the umbilicus outward, and pain that is better with pressure. It is one of the primary raw materials used to synthesize natural estrogens and progesterones.
Cynthia
Davilee
(Login Davi-lee)
Great, thanks!
July 26 2007, 5:43 AM
Thanks,for the replies.
The one thing that I had been trying to figure out exactly is..
Is the compounded USP Progesterone going to be good for boosting the development of the glandular structures? I had seen on Dr.Lam's site that Dr.Lee wrote that it would be the best for HRT,but didnt say exactly if it would be good for breast development.
I would assume it would be fine for that also,unless there is an progesterone stimulator thats as good.
July 24 2007 at 10:33 AM Davilee (Login Davi-lee)
Can I get an answer about which is really best...the "whole herb" wild yam or the extracted USP Progesterone.
Im confused.
One person said that only the wild yam itself will be a precursor to progesterone then the next entry would say just the opposite,that only the USP PROG.extracted from diosgenin will work.
Can someone clarify this?
Im getting ready to buy one of these and I thought I knew what I wanted until now.
Thanks!
Nell Gwynne
(Login nell.gwynne)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 24 2007, 8:16 PM
I've noticed the same thing, so you're not the only one who is confused about wild yam.
Snowflake
(Login GoldSnowflake)
EVE MEMBERS
Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 11:20 AM
Wild Yam is a rather weak herb for NBE compared to Black cohash and Red Clover. It did help me with ovarian pain before my periods though. If your going to put out money for herbs, I would drop Wild yam and go for something stronger and with more assured info. Red clover would be my first choice as black cohash has had reviews in regards to liver damage. There is just too many contradictions over WY converting in the body. Good luck!
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 11:38 AM
WY does not contain progesterone, it contains diosgenin. Diosgenin is not a precursor to progesterone, but it is a compund similar to progesterone and will bind to progesetrone receptors and elicit progesetronic effects (but weaker).
Wild Sheep
(no login)
Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 12:28 PM
Diosgenin is used to make synthetic progesterone and this can be done in a laboratory environment but there are no proofs that it can be done by itself in the body by taking wild yam as extract, capsules or cream.
Cynthia
(Login Baste4562)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: More confused about wild yam.....
July 25 2007, 5:35 PM
Wild Yam
Wild Yam helps relieve PMS and menopausal symptoms, and promotes hormonal balance. It contains the estrogenic substances diosgenin and pregnenolone. Wild yam also has antispasmodic and anti-inflammatory properties due in part to cortisone-like constituents. Diosgenin itself, is weakly antispasmodic. Wild yam has been used to allay nausea due to high hormone levels. This may be due to competition for estrogen receptor sites by diosgenin. Wild yam is especially indicated for spastic uterine contractions with nausea, boring pain radiating from the umbilicus outward, and pain that is better with pressure. It is one of the primary raw materials used to synthesize natural estrogens and progesterones.
Cynthia
Davilee
(Login Davi-lee)
Great, thanks!
July 26 2007, 5:43 AM
Thanks,for the replies.
The one thing that I had been trying to figure out exactly is..
Is the compounded USP Progesterone going to be good for boosting the development of the glandular structures? I had seen on Dr.Lam's site that Dr.Lee wrote that it would be the best for HRT,but didnt say exactly if it would be good for breast development.
I would assume it would be fine for that also,unless there is an progesterone stimulator thats as good.