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progesterone cream
August 17 2007 at 1:42 AM lanky lou (Login lankylou)
hello ladies, thanks for all your help. i've been on WU for about 3 (4?) months now and am just seeing how it goes. thought it might be easier to start a progesterone cream thread. have read a lot of your programs and only know of waxingmoon (congrats girl!) who used progesterone cream and had success.
has anyone else here had success with progesterone cream?
p.s. i did search for this topic first, just so you don't think i'm lazy!
thank you.
Halome
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Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 9:32 AM
Well I JUST started using it, so I guess we'll see how it works for me!
kieyah
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Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 3:26 PM
would this work the same as taking wy capsules? I am takign 500mg wy daily so would this mean I wouldn't need progesterone cream? I guess I am confused as to why it is used topically as opposed to internally. anyone have info
Black Sheep
(Login lankylou)
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 4:37 PM
thanks gals. halome, maybe we could do an experiment together to see! i googled progesterone cream last night with some different searches and didn't find a ton of info (besides companies hocking their wares), but did learn that wild yam cream apparently can't be converted in the body when used externally (at least a few sites said that).
halome, did you start on your 12th or 13th day?
thanks!
Louise
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Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 7:33 PM
I'm really interested in taking progesterone cream but some people have shrank on it (I understand you don't necessarily apply to boobs but skin elsewhere), and some people have had realyl bad acne - not sure if I dare to try it. Also isn't it illegal in europe?
waxingmoon
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All you ever wanted to know about progesterone...
August 17 2007, 9:14 PM
...but were afraid to ask waxingmoon because she is entirely too long winded and doesn't know when to shut up... lol
No, really - here comes a long post filled with info and strange humor (consider yourself warned)
Progesterone cream aka Natural progesterone cream in order to distinguish it from artificial progesterone (progestin) - is derived from wild yam in the lab. It is bio-identical to our own progesterone we produce. This means the molecules are the same and the body uses natural progesterone cream the same way it uses body made progesterone. This is not the case for artificial progesterone - the kind given in birth control pills. That molecule most resembles testosterone. It does connect to the progesterone receptors, but it is unable to produce the progesterone effect in the body. When a woman is on birth control pills with artificial progesterone, using natural progesterone cream does not help them because the progesterone receptors are already filled with the artificial stuff.
Our body makes progesterone each month after ovulation. In the ovary the egg ruptures from its follicle during ovulation. The follicle that remains becomes the corpus luteum which produces progesterone for the body. If a woman has a cycle where she does not ovulate, she does not produce progesterone through the ovary. There is some progesterone made by the adrenal glands, but not as much as from the ovary.
The body uses progesterone to produce other hormones, estrogen and cortisol are two of them. The body releases cortisol to deal with stress. When a person is under a lot of stress they are using up a lot of cortisol and therefore also using up a lot of progesterone. This can lead to a progesterone imbalance.
Estrogen dominance is a term coined by Dr. John Lee MD who described it in his books. He defined it as a state where a woman's body had too much available estrogen and not enough progesterone to balance estrogen effects. The symptom list is quite long (search estrogen dominance and you will find it all) - but some of the symptoms are thyroid imbalance, irregular periods, headaches, bad PMS... the list goes on and on... He said that estrogen dominance could be caused from several reasons. 1. Too much estrogen in the body and a normal amount of progesterone. 2. Normal estrogen and not enough progesterone. 3. Low estrogen and even lower progesterone.... and that's all I remember at the moment. He gives an outline of how to treat estrogen dominance by using natural progesterone cream. His books go by the name "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause" and there is another one about menopause. They are great books for anyone who is thinking about using natural progesterone cream.
Progesterone has multiple effects in our body. Of interest to those trying NBE is that progesterone activates estrogen receptors. Without progesterone we have many estrogen receptors that just sit there doing nothing. Progesterone wakes them up and then those estrogen receptors will hook up with estrogen molecules and produce estrogen results.
Many women have reported breast growth when using normal amounts of progesterone cream in order to treat their estrogen dominance. The usual amount of growth is one cup size, but some experience two cup size increases. Not everyone experiences this effect.
You don't use progesterone every day. Starting about day 12 through the first day of the period the cream is applied. It is placed on thin skinned areas and the areas are rotated so absorption is increased. The amount varies based on the reason for the use. 20mg is considered a normal amount, but some women use more, especially when first treating estrogen dominance. It is not suggested to be applied to areas with high body fat, because progesterone cream can be stored in body fat. The idea is to put it into circulation without creating an excess storage. However, there are some who advise placing it on fat areas, especially the breast. Keep in mind, the more often you put the progesterone cream on an area, the less you absorb. It is best to mostly use thin skinned areas and if you want to put it on the breast do it at most every 3rd day.
Wild yam cream or pill form will not ever do the same thing as natural progesterone cream. Our bodies cannot make progesterone from wild yam cream - that only happens in the lab. Wild yam cream has an estrogenic effect. It does not promote progesterone in any way. When choosing a natural progesterone cream, chose one that states 'USP' grade on the label. This means the progesterone is bio-identical to what your body produces. Some creams have wild yam on the label and they DO have USP grade progesterone in them. READ THE LABEL. That is the only way you will know what you are getting.
WILL PROGESTERONE CREAM MAKE YOUR BREASTS BIGGER??? Now what kind of question is that??? lol Nobody knows how it will affect you. You may try it and it will work. It is more likely to work if you have estrogen dominance symptoms than if you don't.
IS PROGESTERONE CREAM SAFE?? Wellllll..... Yes and no. And it depends on who you ask. Per Dr. John Lee, normal amounts (20mg) are safe and very unlikely to lead to any problems. However, progesterone cream is banned in California and in Europe. There is some evidence to support it is implicated in enhancing the growth of cancers that are estrogen sensitive (remember how progesterone turns on estrogen receptor?) So if you have or have had a cancer that is estrogen sensitive, do not use progesterone cream.
IF I IGNORE ALL THIS GREAT INFO AND SLATHER GREAT BIG HEAPING GOBS OF PROGESTERONE CREAM ON MY BREASTS WILL THEY GET BIGGER ???? BECAUSE YOU KNOW I AM REALLY DESPERATE AND I AM WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING NO MATTER HOW FOOLISH OR RISKY!!! Come on! Do you hear yourself? Get a grip! Nothing is worth risking your health over. The last thing you want is for people to be talking about your a great big pair of boobs while looking down at your corpse at your funeral (Didn't I warn you about my sense of humor...)
If you want to try progesterone cream then read more about it. I listed an author and he is great - he does not talk about NBE but you will learn a lot about your body in other ways. Do not believe everything you read on the internet. There are some well meaning but misguided people out there as well as some misguiding mean people out there.
Except for me.. everything I tell you is absolutely believable and well meaning and well guided... Yes and entirely too long winded and the humor is sometimes painful... but hey if you got this far then you might now know something you didn't know before... and if that's not the case then I will refund your money... lol
Best wishes,
waxingmoon (the one who grew an inch using progesterone cream and a few other things you will find out about if you read her program page but by no means is she guaranteeing you will get the same results and anyway we hear that an inch one HER chest is really just below the starting point of most people who do NBE and we are waiting to see if she grows any more and if she does she BETTER post some before and after pics if she expects anyone to believe her long winded stories....)
yeah, that's about it...
Black Sheep
(Login lankylou)
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 11:40 PM
haha, waxingmoon, i had to leave when i got to the bottom of your post. thanks for all of the very good information. i'm going to read through your program again before asking you what might be, some dumb questions. you know we all feel like we are starting with very little, not just you.
thanks again!
Halome
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Re: progesterone cream
August 18 2007, 12:26 AM
waxingmoon
I love you
That post made my day, LOL!
To Lankyloo, I started about the 13th or 14th day or so. I can't remember the name of my cream since I'm not at home, but I will tell you when I do get home. I am all for ginuea pigging it
KittyCharlette
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Re: progesterone cream
August 18 2007, 1:17 AM
Waxingmoon...
thank you so much for the informative post! i was just about to ask some questions on the subject on the main forum when i found this. you answered all of my questions
good luck to you (.Y.)
Black Sheep
(no login)
progesterone cream banned in europe.....
August 19 2007, 3:09 PM
This is the first i heard about progesterone cream being banned in Europe. It is sold in the UK, so how can it be banned in Europe? It might just be in a few countries, but this website sells it legally, and it has been recommened by some doctors:
http://www.progesterone.co.uk/
It also has information about what it is good for, and about oestrogen dominance
lanky lou
(Login lankylou)
thanks waxingmoon
August 19 2007, 3:19 PM
thanks for all the great information! i read through your program again and can relate to the teenage stress. my mother, love her, is sort of a neurotic little korean woman who wanted her daughter to model. i got some of that neuroses and didn't eat much at all between 7th and 9th grade (after my period), but still limited food and protein intake. oddly, in 6th grade before all the girls sprouted, my boobs were the biggest in the class! isn't that just wrong?! haha.
ok, so just one more question (for now!). can you expand a little on the estrogen dominance symptoms that YOU had pre-progesterone cream? i have read dr. lee's estrogen quiz and taken it? did taking that lead you to know you were estrogen dominant?
sorry to be so maniacal about this one subject.
thank you!
waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 19 2007, 3:35 PM
Hi Lanky Lou,
These were my symptoms:
* Allergies: rashes and sinus congestion
* Autoimmune disorders: thyroiditis
* Breast tenderness
* Cold hands and feet as a symptom of thyroid dysfunction
* Decreased sex drive
* Depression with anxiety or agitation
* Dry eyes
* Fat gain, especially around the abdomen, hips and thighs
* Fatigue
* Fibrocystic breasts
* Foggy thinking
* Hair Loss
* Headaches
* Hypoglycemia
* Irregular menstrual periods
* Irritability
* Insomnia
* Memory loss
* Mood swings
* PMS
* Sluggish metabolism
* Thyroid dysfunction mimicking hypothyroidism
* Water retention, bloating
As you can see I was a MESS... lol And since this is most of the list of Estrogen Dominance symptoms, it was pretty easy for me to come to the conclusion I had ED. Today most of these symptoms are gone or are very light versions of what they were before.
One symptom that disappeared with the use of progesterone cream - and surprised me the most when it did was the fibrocystic breast issue. I used to have very lumpy breasts - my doctor would tell me 'your breast tissue is very dense' ... so there I was with small, stupid (dense) breasts. Now they do not show signs of fibrocystic tissue... YAHOO.
Here is the full list taken from Dr Lee's site for anyone who is wondering about it:
* Acceleration of the aging process
* Allergies, including asthma, hives, rashes, sinus congestion
* Autoimmune disorders such as lupus erythematosis and thyroiditis, and possibly Sjoegren's disease
* Breast cancer
* Breast tenderness
* Cervical dysplasia
* Cold hands and feet as a symptom of thyroid dysfunction
* Copper excess
* Decreased sex drive
* Depression with anxiety or agitation
* Dry eyes
* Early onset of menstruation
* Endometrial (uterine) cancer
* Fat gain, especially around the abdomen, hips and thighs
* Fatigue
* Fibrocystic breasts
* Foggy thinking
* Gallbladder disease
* Hair Loss
* Headaches
* Hypoglycemia
* Increased blood clotting (increasing risk of strokes)
* Infertility
* Irregular menstrual periods
* Irritability
* Insomnia
* Magnesium deficiency
* Memory loss
* Mood swings
* Osteoporosis
* Polycystic ovaries
* Premenopausal bone loss
* PMS
* Prostate cancer
* Sluggish metabolism
* Thyroid dysfunction mimicking hypothyroidism
* Uterine cancer
* Uterine fibroids
* Water retention, bloating
* Zinc deficiency
waxingmoon
Black Sheep
(Login lankylou)
Re: progesterone cream
August 19 2007, 8:05 PM
waxingmoon,
thank you so much for the detail and your personal estrogen symptoms. i hope you make it to your D goal!!! sounds like you already have some success to be proud of. i am going to try the progesterone cream for 1-2 months. WU hasn't been successful on its own for me, so this will be another trial and error. but that's what we're all here doing anyway
son
(no login)
name of progesterone cream
August 21 2007, 7:22 AM
could any o you give me the name of a natural progesterone cream
Davilee
(Login Davi-lee)
Re: progesterone cream
August 21 2007, 8:00 AM
I love huge, "long winded",collections of info!!
Thats great Waxingmoon,thanks...Cheers!
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 27 2007, 7:22 PM
Sorry, I'm sure this has been asked before but can't find the answer - will PC affect bcp?
waxingmoon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 27 2007, 7:47 PM
Louise,
According to Dr John Lee the artificial progesterone in the BCP will take up all the progesterone receptor sites, rendering Natural progesterone cream useless.
So, no it does not interfere with BCP because it isn't able to work.
waxingmoon
lanky lou
(Login lankylou)
progesterone cream + Wonderup
August 28 2007, 2:39 PM
josephine from Vortex Health says progesterone cream shouldn't hinder, if anything it would help, the benefits of Wonderup. just passing that along, thanks.
August 17 2007 at 1:42 AM lanky lou (Login lankylou)
hello ladies, thanks for all your help. i've been on WU for about 3 (4?) months now and am just seeing how it goes. thought it might be easier to start a progesterone cream thread. have read a lot of your programs and only know of waxingmoon (congrats girl!) who used progesterone cream and had success.
has anyone else here had success with progesterone cream?
p.s. i did search for this topic first, just so you don't think i'm lazy!
thank you.
Halome
(Login Halome)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 9:32 AM
Well I JUST started using it, so I guess we'll see how it works for me!
kieyah
(Login kieyah)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 3:26 PM
would this work the same as taking wy capsules? I am takign 500mg wy daily so would this mean I wouldn't need progesterone cream? I guess I am confused as to why it is used topically as opposed to internally. anyone have info
Black Sheep
(Login lankylou)
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 4:37 PM
thanks gals. halome, maybe we could do an experiment together to see!
i googled progesterone cream last night with some different searches and didn't find a ton of info (besides companies hocking their wares), but did learn that wild yam cream apparently can't be converted in the body when used externally (at least a few sites said that).halome, did you start on your 12th or 13th day?
thanks!
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 7:33 PM
I'm really interested in taking progesterone cream but some people have shrank on it (I understand you don't necessarily apply to boobs but skin elsewhere), and some people have had realyl bad acne - not sure if I dare to try it. Also isn't it illegal in europe?
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
All you ever wanted to know about progesterone...
August 17 2007, 9:14 PM
...but were afraid to ask waxingmoon because she is entirely too long winded and doesn't know when to shut up... lol
No, really - here comes a long post filled with info and strange humor (consider yourself warned)
Progesterone cream aka Natural progesterone cream in order to distinguish it from artificial progesterone (progestin) - is derived from wild yam in the lab. It is bio-identical to our own progesterone we produce. This means the molecules are the same and the body uses natural progesterone cream the same way it uses body made progesterone. This is not the case for artificial progesterone - the kind given in birth control pills. That molecule most resembles testosterone. It does connect to the progesterone receptors, but it is unable to produce the progesterone effect in the body. When a woman is on birth control pills with artificial progesterone, using natural progesterone cream does not help them because the progesterone receptors are already filled with the artificial stuff.
Our body makes progesterone each month after ovulation. In the ovary the egg ruptures from its follicle during ovulation. The follicle that remains becomes the corpus luteum which produces progesterone for the body. If a woman has a cycle where she does not ovulate, she does not produce progesterone through the ovary. There is some progesterone made by the adrenal glands, but not as much as from the ovary.
The body uses progesterone to produce other hormones, estrogen and cortisol are two of them. The body releases cortisol to deal with stress. When a person is under a lot of stress they are using up a lot of cortisol and therefore also using up a lot of progesterone. This can lead to a progesterone imbalance.
Estrogen dominance is a term coined by Dr. John Lee MD who described it in his books. He defined it as a state where a woman's body had too much available estrogen and not enough progesterone to balance estrogen effects. The symptom list is quite long (search estrogen dominance and you will find it all) - but some of the symptoms are thyroid imbalance, irregular periods, headaches, bad PMS... the list goes on and on... He said that estrogen dominance could be caused from several reasons. 1. Too much estrogen in the body and a normal amount of progesterone. 2. Normal estrogen and not enough progesterone. 3. Low estrogen and even lower progesterone.... and that's all I remember at the moment. He gives an outline of how to treat estrogen dominance by using natural progesterone cream. His books go by the name "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause" and there is another one about menopause. They are great books for anyone who is thinking about using natural progesterone cream.
Progesterone has multiple effects in our body. Of interest to those trying NBE is that progesterone activates estrogen receptors. Without progesterone we have many estrogen receptors that just sit there doing nothing. Progesterone wakes them up and then those estrogen receptors will hook up with estrogen molecules and produce estrogen results.
Many women have reported breast growth when using normal amounts of progesterone cream in order to treat their estrogen dominance. The usual amount of growth is one cup size, but some experience two cup size increases. Not everyone experiences this effect.
You don't use progesterone every day. Starting about day 12 through the first day of the period the cream is applied. It is placed on thin skinned areas and the areas are rotated so absorption is increased. The amount varies based on the reason for the use. 20mg is considered a normal amount, but some women use more, especially when first treating estrogen dominance. It is not suggested to be applied to areas with high body fat, because progesterone cream can be stored in body fat. The idea is to put it into circulation without creating an excess storage. However, there are some who advise placing it on fat areas, especially the breast. Keep in mind, the more often you put the progesterone cream on an area, the less you absorb. It is best to mostly use thin skinned areas and if you want to put it on the breast do it at most every 3rd day.
Wild yam cream or pill form will not ever do the same thing as natural progesterone cream. Our bodies cannot make progesterone from wild yam cream - that only happens in the lab. Wild yam cream has an estrogenic effect. It does not promote progesterone in any way. When choosing a natural progesterone cream, chose one that states 'USP' grade on the label. This means the progesterone is bio-identical to what your body produces. Some creams have wild yam on the label and they DO have USP grade progesterone in them. READ THE LABEL. That is the only way you will know what you are getting.
WILL PROGESTERONE CREAM MAKE YOUR BREASTS BIGGER??? Now what kind of question is that??? lol Nobody knows how it will affect you. You may try it and it will work. It is more likely to work if you have estrogen dominance symptoms than if you don't.
IS PROGESTERONE CREAM SAFE?? Wellllll..... Yes and no. And it depends on who you ask. Per Dr. John Lee, normal amounts (20mg) are safe and very unlikely to lead to any problems. However, progesterone cream is banned in California and in Europe. There is some evidence to support it is implicated in enhancing the growth of cancers that are estrogen sensitive (remember how progesterone turns on estrogen receptor?) So if you have or have had a cancer that is estrogen sensitive, do not use progesterone cream.
IF I IGNORE ALL THIS GREAT INFO AND SLATHER GREAT BIG HEAPING GOBS OF PROGESTERONE CREAM ON MY BREASTS WILL THEY GET BIGGER ???? BECAUSE YOU KNOW I AM REALLY DESPERATE AND I AM WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING NO MATTER HOW FOOLISH OR RISKY!!! Come on! Do you hear yourself? Get a grip! Nothing is worth risking your health over. The last thing you want is for people to be talking about your a great big pair of boobs while looking down at your corpse at your funeral (Didn't I warn you about my sense of humor...)
If you want to try progesterone cream then read more about it. I listed an author and he is great - he does not talk about NBE but you will learn a lot about your body in other ways. Do not believe everything you read on the internet. There are some well meaning but misguided people out there as well as some misguiding mean people out there.
Except for me.. everything I tell you is absolutely believable and well meaning and well guided... Yes and entirely too long winded and the humor is sometimes painful... but hey if you got this far then you might now know something you didn't know before... and if that's not the case then I will refund your money... lol
Best wishes,
waxingmoon (the one who grew an inch using progesterone cream and a few other things you will find out about if you read her program page but by no means is she guaranteeing you will get the same results and anyway we hear that an inch one HER chest is really just below the starting point of most people who do NBE and we are waiting to see if she grows any more and if she does she BETTER post some before and after pics if she expects anyone to believe her long winded stories....)
yeah, that's about it...
Black Sheep
(Login lankylou)
Re: progesterone cream
August 17 2007, 11:40 PM
haha, waxingmoon, i had to leave when i got to the bottom of your post. thanks for all of the very good information. i'm going to read through your program again before asking you what might be, some dumb questions. you know we all feel like we are starting with very little, not just you.
thanks again!
Halome
(Login Halome)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 18 2007, 12:26 AM
waxingmoon
I love you
That post made my day, LOL!
To Lankyloo, I started about the 13th or 14th day or so. I can't remember the name of my cream since I'm not at home, but I will tell you when I do get home. I am all for ginuea pigging it
KittyCharlette
(Login KittyCharlette)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 18 2007, 1:17 AM
Waxingmoon...
thank you so much for the informative post! i was just about to ask some questions on the subject on the main forum when i found this. you answered all of my questions
good luck to you (.Y.)
Black Sheep
(no login)
progesterone cream banned in europe.....
August 19 2007, 3:09 PM
This is the first i heard about progesterone cream being banned in Europe. It is sold in the UK, so how can it be banned in Europe? It might just be in a few countries, but this website sells it legally, and it has been recommened by some doctors:
http://www.progesterone.co.uk/
It also has information about what it is good for, and about oestrogen dominance
lanky lou
(Login lankylou)
thanks waxingmoon
August 19 2007, 3:19 PM
thanks for all the great information! i read through your program again and can relate to the teenage stress. my mother, love her, is sort of a neurotic little korean woman who wanted her daughter to model. i got some of that neuroses and didn't eat much at all between 7th and 9th grade (after my period), but still limited food and protein intake. oddly, in 6th grade before all the girls sprouted, my boobs were the biggest in the class! isn't that just wrong?! haha.
ok, so just one more question (for now!). can you expand a little on the estrogen dominance symptoms that YOU had pre-progesterone cream? i have read dr. lee's estrogen quiz and taken it? did taking that lead you to know you were estrogen dominant?
sorry to be so maniacal about this one subject.
thank you!
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 19 2007, 3:35 PM
Hi Lanky Lou,
These were my symptoms:
* Allergies: rashes and sinus congestion
* Autoimmune disorders: thyroiditis
* Breast tenderness
* Cold hands and feet as a symptom of thyroid dysfunction
* Decreased sex drive
* Depression with anxiety or agitation
* Dry eyes
* Fat gain, especially around the abdomen, hips and thighs
* Fatigue
* Fibrocystic breasts
* Foggy thinking
* Hair Loss
* Headaches
* Hypoglycemia
* Irregular menstrual periods
* Irritability
* Insomnia
* Memory loss
* Mood swings
* PMS
* Sluggish metabolism
* Thyroid dysfunction mimicking hypothyroidism
* Water retention, bloating
As you can see I was a MESS... lol And since this is most of the list of Estrogen Dominance symptoms, it was pretty easy for me to come to the conclusion I had ED. Today most of these symptoms are gone or are very light versions of what they were before.
One symptom that disappeared with the use of progesterone cream - and surprised me the most when it did was the fibrocystic breast issue. I used to have very lumpy breasts - my doctor would tell me 'your breast tissue is very dense' ... so there I was with small, stupid (dense) breasts. Now they do not show signs of fibrocystic tissue... YAHOO.
Here is the full list taken from Dr Lee's site for anyone who is wondering about it:
* Acceleration of the aging process
* Allergies, including asthma, hives, rashes, sinus congestion
* Autoimmune disorders such as lupus erythematosis and thyroiditis, and possibly Sjoegren's disease
* Breast cancer
* Breast tenderness
* Cervical dysplasia
* Cold hands and feet as a symptom of thyroid dysfunction
* Copper excess
* Decreased sex drive
* Depression with anxiety or agitation
* Dry eyes
* Early onset of menstruation
* Endometrial (uterine) cancer
* Fat gain, especially around the abdomen, hips and thighs
* Fatigue
* Fibrocystic breasts
* Foggy thinking
* Gallbladder disease
* Hair Loss
* Headaches
* Hypoglycemia
* Increased blood clotting (increasing risk of strokes)
* Infertility
* Irregular menstrual periods
* Irritability
* Insomnia
* Magnesium deficiency
* Memory loss
* Mood swings
* Osteoporosis
* Polycystic ovaries
* Premenopausal bone loss
* PMS
* Prostate cancer
* Sluggish metabolism
* Thyroid dysfunction mimicking hypothyroidism
* Uterine cancer
* Uterine fibroids
* Water retention, bloating
* Zinc deficiency
waxingmoon
Black Sheep
(Login lankylou)
Re: progesterone cream
August 19 2007, 8:05 PM
waxingmoon,
thank you so much for the detail and your personal estrogen symptoms. i hope you make it to your D goal!!! sounds like you already have some success to be proud of. i am going to try the progesterone cream for 1-2 months. WU hasn't been successful on its own for me, so this will be another trial and error. but that's what we're all here doing anyway
son
(no login)
name of progesterone cream
August 21 2007, 7:22 AM
could any o you give me the name of a natural progesterone cream
Davilee
(Login Davi-lee)
Re: progesterone cream
August 21 2007, 8:00 AM
I love huge, "long winded",collections of info!!
Thats great Waxingmoon,thanks...Cheers!
Louise
(Login Louise1982)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 27 2007, 7:22 PM
Sorry, I'm sure this has been asked before but can't find the answer - will PC affect bcp?
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone cream
August 27 2007, 7:47 PM
Louise,
According to Dr John Lee the artificial progesterone in the BCP will take up all the progesterone receptor sites, rendering Natural progesterone cream useless.
So, no it does not interfere with BCP because it isn't able to work.
waxingmoon
lanky lou
(Login lankylou)
progesterone cream + Wonderup
August 28 2007, 2:39 PM
josephine from Vortex Health says progesterone cream shouldn't hinder, if anything it would help, the benefits of Wonderup. just passing that along, thanks.