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progesterone creme
June 11 2008 at 6:23 PM amy (Login firish69)
will adding progesterone creme last 7 days of cycle affect herbs
meaning should people stop taking herbas while using progesterone creme
AuNaturel9
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Re: progesterone creme
June 12 2008, 2:27 AM
I wish I could give you a clear answer. I've been on Progesterone cream on CD 14-28. I heard it was important to ONLY use progesterone cream on CD14-28 unless you are peri/menopausal.
Also, I heard from another forum that PC isn't even a good addition to an NBE program because the Progesterone will interfere with Estrogen receptors. I could be wrong so please correct me if I am.
The only reason why I'm taking PC is because I was seriously Estrogen dominant and had all the signs (ie. water retention, breast tendernes etc.) This has cleared up since I was on vitex + PC.
I'm really hoping someone else could clear this up for us. I'd really appreciate any info regarding this as well.
waxingmoon
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Re: progesterone creme
June 12 2008, 1:49 PM
Here is what I know about progesterone cream.
It can be useful for more than just peri/menopausal issues. Estrogen dominance/progesterone deficiency can occur at any age and progesterone cream is an effective way to treat it.
Progesterone cream is also used to treat prostrate cancer... not an issue on this forum for most, but I just mention it to show that the hormone is useful for a variety of issues.
As far as the effect of progesterone on estrogen receptors. It does not interfere with them, it activates inactive estrogen receptors. This is why one of the main initial effects of progesterone cream use can be a worsening of estrogen dominance symptoms.
Progesterone and estrogen do not 'cancel each other out'. Progesterone is used by the body to create other hormones, one of which is estrogen. When there is insufficient progesterone, there will be symptoms created by the imbalance of estrogen. Thus the term 'estrogen dominance' has been used to describe those symptoms.
As far as use of progesterone cream... Because it is a hormone and because it can be overdosed it must be used with care. The standard method of use is to apply small amounts of cream (20 mg) to thin skinned areas during the last part of the menstrual cycle (days 14 - 28).
Progesterone cream is not an NBE substance. For women it treats progesterone deficiency and if a woman is not progesterone deficient she should not use it or she will risk progesterone overdose.
Can a woman use progesterone cream with herbs - sure. Estrogen dominance can sometimes exist when both estrogen and progesterone are low and it is conceivable a woman could try to raise both estrogen and progesterone at the same time. Some herbs however will lower a woman's response to progesterone - red clover and wild yam come to mind, so those herbs should be avoided. Progesterone will not lower a woman's response to any herb. A woman who is strongly estrogen dominant may want to avoid estrogenic herbs though because she can increase her total body estrogen with herbs and that can increase her symptoms.
Hope this has been some help,
waxingmoon
June 11 2008 at 6:23 PM amy (Login firish69)
will adding progesterone creme last 7 days of cycle affect herbs
meaning should people stop taking herbas while using progesterone creme
AuNaturel9
(no login)
Re: progesterone creme
June 12 2008, 2:27 AM
I wish I could give you a clear answer. I've been on Progesterone cream on CD 14-28. I heard it was important to ONLY use progesterone cream on CD14-28 unless you are peri/menopausal.
Also, I heard from another forum that PC isn't even a good addition to an NBE program because the Progesterone will interfere with Estrogen receptors. I could be wrong so please correct me if I am.
The only reason why I'm taking PC is because I was seriously Estrogen dominant and had all the signs (ie. water retention, breast tendernes etc.) This has cleared up since I was on vitex + PC.
I'm really hoping someone else could clear this up for us. I'd really appreciate any info regarding this as well.
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: progesterone creme
June 12 2008, 1:49 PM
Here is what I know about progesterone cream.
It can be useful for more than just peri/menopausal issues. Estrogen dominance/progesterone deficiency can occur at any age and progesterone cream is an effective way to treat it.
Progesterone cream is also used to treat prostrate cancer... not an issue on this forum for most, but I just mention it to show that the hormone is useful for a variety of issues.
As far as the effect of progesterone on estrogen receptors. It does not interfere with them, it activates inactive estrogen receptors. This is why one of the main initial effects of progesterone cream use can be a worsening of estrogen dominance symptoms.
Progesterone and estrogen do not 'cancel each other out'. Progesterone is used by the body to create other hormones, one of which is estrogen. When there is insufficient progesterone, there will be symptoms created by the imbalance of estrogen. Thus the term 'estrogen dominance' has been used to describe those symptoms.
As far as use of progesterone cream... Because it is a hormone and because it can be overdosed it must be used with care. The standard method of use is to apply small amounts of cream (20 mg) to thin skinned areas during the last part of the menstrual cycle (days 14 - 28).
Progesterone cream is not an NBE substance. For women it treats progesterone deficiency and if a woman is not progesterone deficient she should not use it or she will risk progesterone overdose.
Can a woman use progesterone cream with herbs - sure. Estrogen dominance can sometimes exist when both estrogen and progesterone are low and it is conceivable a woman could try to raise both estrogen and progesterone at the same time. Some herbs however will lower a woman's response to progesterone - red clover and wild yam come to mind, so those herbs should be avoided. Progesterone will not lower a woman's response to any herb. A woman who is strongly estrogen dominant may want to avoid estrogenic herbs though because she can increase her total body estrogen with herbs and that can increase her symptoms.
Hope this has been some help,
waxingmoon