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Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008 at 12:45 AM SaggyNymph (Login SaggyNymph)
What do you guys think of adding vitex to the second part of my cycle? Please look at my program page!
Moon
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 9:44 AM
I have been wondering the same thing, but I have doubts because vitex is supposed to be a slow acting herb so not sure if it would even work in the second part of the cycle when you'd take it. I hope Waxingmoon sees this thread, I wonder what she thinks.
Also I heard that dividing herbs on folicular and lutheal phase in popular in asian NBE but not sure what they used in the luteal phase...
Lisa121
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 1:37 PM
I dont think there is any point, it takes up to three months to work and taking it for only two weeks on and two weeks off wil probably be more harmful than good. It is for balancing your hormones and like that you will just mess with your system. Not a good idea at all I would think.
waxingmoon
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 6:13 PM
Hi Saggynymph and Moon,
The thing about vitex is that it works by stimulating the body's natural progesterone production. In order for it to do this it must be used during the entire cycle. I know that progesterone is predominant during the luteal phase, but in order for that phase to have more progesterone there must be preparation during the follicular phase.
Think of it this way. You want to bake a cake, but if you did not go out and get the ingredients before hand, you have nothing to bake with.
Now using progesterone cream on the other hand is done only during the luteal phase. It provides the progesterone directly. Sort of the difference between making the cake from scratch yourself and getting a piece of cake handed to you.
Can anyone tell I am trying to lose weight... lol.
Mmmmmmm cake.... slobber....
Best wishes,
waxingmoon - currently cake deprived... sob.
hopeful
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 7:14 PM
So does that mean just using the progesterone cream during the luteal phase would help boost the amount of progesterone? Or do you need to take it in combination with the pills?
hopeful
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 10:02 PM
What type of progesterone cream can you use and where can you get it?
SaggyNymph
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 17 2008, 1:19 AM
I use emerita. It it used by younger women and menopausal women. I live in NY and you can find it at most health food stores. If not, try online!
ShyBoobs
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November 17 2008, 1:54 AM
Another natural progesterone cream is Progesterall. I think it's only available online. It's supposed to be manufactured to meet Dr. Lee's standards (plus has the Lee Family name on it), and he seems to be highly regarded with women's hormonal issues and the like. Website is www.progesterall.com/ for anybody that's interested. I just started to use it today myself.
waxingmoon
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 17 2008, 3:22 AM
Hey everyone,
Don't use progesterone cream until you have thoroughly researched it and know how much, and when to use it and even if you should use it at all. This is a hormone and as such it should be used only for the right reasons.
A good reference of using progesterone cream - all the why, how and when - can be found in the book by Dr. John Lee - "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause" - I highly, highly recommend it (and I WISH I got some sort of royalty for all the times I recommend this book ... lol).
Be safe and smart like I know you all can be. Look before you leap.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
Rosa
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Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
March 3 2009, 8:29 AM
I agree with Lisa it won't be necessary b/c you need to balance yourself and doing it everyday is what you need with chaste berry.I use it everyday matter of fact I took my pill not too long ago.Words cannot describe how blessed I am to have found this.I love it b/c it is not a hormone pill.It works by balancing the pituitary gland which keeps hormones in check.It gets no better than that.That's why I hate bcp you get off your pituitary is still messed up but with this you are set.I take mine 3 times a day everyday.
November 16 2008 at 12:45 AM SaggyNymph (Login SaggyNymph)
What do you guys think of adding vitex to the second part of my cycle? Please look at my program page!
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 9:44 AM
I have been wondering the same thing, but I have doubts because vitex is supposed to be a slow acting herb so not sure if it would even work in the second part of the cycle when you'd take it. I hope Waxingmoon sees this thread, I wonder what she thinks.
Also I heard that dividing herbs on folicular and lutheal phase in popular in asian NBE but not sure what they used in the luteal phase...
Lisa121
(no login)
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 1:37 PM
I dont think there is any point, it takes up to three months to work and taking it for only two weeks on and two weeks off wil probably be more harmful than good. It is for balancing your hormones and like that you will just mess with your system. Not a good idea at all I would think.
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 6:13 PM
Hi Saggynymph and Moon,
The thing about vitex is that it works by stimulating the body's natural progesterone production. In order for it to do this it must be used during the entire cycle. I know that progesterone is predominant during the luteal phase, but in order for that phase to have more progesterone there must be preparation during the follicular phase.
Think of it this way. You want to bake a cake, but if you did not go out and get the ingredients before hand, you have nothing to bake with.
Now using progesterone cream on the other hand is done only during the luteal phase. It provides the progesterone directly. Sort of the difference between making the cake from scratch yourself and getting a piece of cake handed to you.
Can anyone tell I am trying to lose weight... lol.
Mmmmmmm cake.... slobber....
Best wishes,
waxingmoon - currently cake deprived... sob.
hopeful
(no login)
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 7:14 PM
So does that mean just using the progesterone cream during the luteal phase would help boost the amount of progesterone? Or do you need to take it in combination with the pills?
hopeful
(no login)
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 16 2008, 10:02 PM
What type of progesterone cream can you use and where can you get it?
SaggyNymph
(Login SaggyNymph)
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 17 2008, 1:19 AM
I use emerita. It it used by younger women and menopausal women. I live in NY and you can find it at most health food stores. If not, try online!
ShyBoobs
(Login ShyBoobs)
SENIOR MEMBER
Just another PC suggestion...
November 17 2008, 1:54 AM
Another natural progesterone cream is Progesterall. I think it's only available online. It's supposed to be manufactured to meet Dr. Lee's standards (plus has the Lee Family name on it), and he seems to be highly regarded with women's hormonal issues and the like. Website is www.progesterall.com/ for anybody that's interested. I just started to use it today myself.
waxingmoon
(Login waxingmoon)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
November 17 2008, 3:22 AM
Hey everyone,
Don't use progesterone cream until you have thoroughly researched it and know how much, and when to use it and even if you should use it at all. This is a hormone and as such it should be used only for the right reasons.
A good reference of using progesterone cream - all the why, how and when - can be found in the book by Dr. John Lee - "What your doctor may not tell you about premenopause" - I highly, highly recommend it (and I WISH I got some sort of royalty for all the times I recommend this book ... lol).
Be safe and smart like I know you all can be. Look before you leap.
Best wishes,
waxingmoon
Rosa
(Login BlackDiamond27)
Re: Vitex for second half of cycle
March 3 2009, 8:29 AM
I agree with Lisa it won't be necessary b/c you need to balance yourself and doing it everyday is what you need with chaste berry.I use it everyday matter of fact I took my pill not too long ago.Words cannot describe how blessed I am to have found this.I love it b/c it is not a hormone pill.It works by balancing the pituitary gland which keeps hormones in check.It gets no better than that.That's why I hate bcp you get off your pituitary is still messed up but with this you are set.I take mine 3 times a day everyday.