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Lactation
April 11 2007 at 9:29 PM Anonymous (no login)
Hi everyone,

I just wondered whether herbs would still work whilst you were lactating. I'm currently considering the lactation induced enlargment at www.growyours.com. I realise it could be a bad idea but can see myself trying it anyway. The '1-2inches in 30 days' tempts me alot.

As far as I know, prolactin, estrogen and progesterone all rise during lactation.... would it be harmful to additionally use PM for additional growth for example? Is there any reason why it wouldn't work?

I'd be really grateful for your input.




jennie
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re. lactation
April 12 2007, 11:02 PM

hi- i haven't checked out the link you provided, but i would strongly advise anyone against such a measure. had a bit of experience with this myself and it all ended in grief. please, please do not attempt this. what i would give for my tiny,but firm and perky former breasts! stay away from this, please.



Anonymous
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Bump
April 12 2007, 11:05 PM

I suppose in some cases, massage produces lactation - and people use additional herbs?? Hope to hear from you

L X



anonymous
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Jesus!
April 13 2007, 7:31 AM

Do you realize that any growth due to prolactine/lactation is only temporary? When breastfeeding women stop nursing, their breasts go back in size again afterwards, often SMALLER and FLATTER than ever before. Or do you intend to lactate for the rest of your life to keep the growth?




Moonkissed
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Re: lactation
April 13 2007, 9:34 AM

I have been on this web site before, and even heard from the creator on another messageboard, defending his method after it was questioned by several posters. While it seems like a good thing in theory, in reality, some bad problems could pop up, including:

1) Decreased or irregular menstruation.

2) Infertility problems.

3) Decreased libido.

4) Vaginal dryness.

5) Imbalanced FSH and GnRH hormones.

5) Increased tenderness or pain in breasts.

6) Headaches.

7) Vision problems.

8) Fatigue.

Mind you, we risk our own problems when we use herbs for BE, but in general, many women also experience positive side-effects in addition to bigger breasts, such as stronger nails, thicker hair, reduced acne, lighter periods, etc. The only benefit of lactation (in addition to bigger breasts) is to provide nutrition for one's baby. In this particular case, one does not even get the benefit of oxytocin increased levels because there is no baby to bond with.

Furthermore, lactation-induced breast growth is not permanent. Eventually, it will go away, unless one continues to do the specified techniques for the rest of his or her life. The creator of the web site justified this by stating that since we have to take regular care of our body anyway for maintenance purposes, what is one more thing? However, since we already do enough to maintain our body, I don't think most of us want to add this to the list of everyday bodily chores, in addition to brushing our teeth, hair, showering, eating, etc. Some of us barely have enough time to take our herbs on schedule, or massage everyday, and we are expected to do these techniques forever? I cannot speak for everyone, but it's a big NO for me.

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Those who cannot remember the past will spend a lot of time looking for their cars in mall parking lots. -- Jay Trachman




Henri
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Re: lactation
April 13 2007, 1:19 PM

If you are serious about trying the form of NBE, then I would head over to the BeBoard, because they are doing a free study over there - but if I remember I think you can still get the free trial on the grow yours website too. But I do on the BeBoard, they will have monitors of the program, and they also said that they recommend it more for the women who have already had kids, as they get better results. But either way I would head over there and read the posts they have, it gives one a broader perspective.



Anonymous
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Re: lactation
April 13 2007, 3:15 PM

Thanks for all your suggestions.

Henri - I'll have a look at the Beboard - thanks.

I'm mostly interested in this method, since it increases prolactin - which I have heard increases fat in the breast and decreases it in the bum.

I think you're maybe right about it being a bad idea - do you think it's the heaviness of the milk which makes the breasts sag. Do breast sag after pregnancy regardless of whether you nurse or not.




beth
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Re: lactation
April 13 2007, 7:12 PM

I have been using the www.growyours.com method for 2 weeks. I have grown 3/4" so far. I have noticed that my skin is a lot clearer, my nails are stronger, many of the things I noticed when I was pregnant. It is working great for me, but it might not be for everyone. I did not know that infertility could be caused by this, but that does not bother me because I had my tubes tied and do not plan to have any more children anyways. My boobs never got very sore, but I have heard that some women's get very sore. Just make sure you do as much research as you can, and decide which path you would rather take. Good Luck!



Henri
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Thinking Out Loud
April 13 2007, 9:18 PM

I am curious about something - considering all the risk involved, which we face even with methods here:
could one use this method to get results, and then go on a maintenance, add in herbs to make it more permanent? or do both at the same time once you've started to see growth with the program? I'd think for those that have had no luck with herbs or other methods this might be a fix for them, although not without side effects, it does appear to be safer then Plastic Surgery.

I don't want to completely bash something. If I knew that I could use this method, grow to a certain size, before leaking or engorgement because from what I've read that shouldn't happen, start maintenance and then switch to herbs to keep things growing inside but not necesarily outside I would be willing to give it a go. Shoot or even do some maintenance every few days I'd be willing to do it. I mean, we could potentially face maintenance with herbs too.



Anonymous
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Re: lactation
April 13 2007, 9:24 PM

I want to say that if it's what you want to do I urge you to do it! Don't be afraid of what some posters here have said to discourage it. The side effects they mention are issues that are possible during lactation, but of course nothing permanent. And for some, these side effects never appear. You do need to know that you won't keep the increase if you decide to stop lactation, but as long as you are ok with that and you still want to try it I say bravo to you.



Henri
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Re: lactation
April 14 2007, 1:33 PM

Was laying awake last night thinking more about this method and some other thoughts popped into my head:

If one is tricking there body to think its pregnant, to change the hormones so the breasts grow - what would happen if you were to stop completely? I mean would you go into the hormonal imbalance you go into with a miscarriage? And the more I think about it lactation with a baby just can't be good for you. There is a reason our bodies produce milk. I was also wondering, maybe its just me, that my breasts weren't as full when I was inbetween nursing times, and actually sagged a little bit, it wasn't the nice fullness that is described. because even though they say you are only getting the effects of between 3-9 months of being pregnant.........it still says something about being complete when you produce milk...... and I don't know about anybody else, but even while nursing and those times being stretched to 3-4 hours apart, if I got stimulated then my milk would come in and I would drip.........

I wonder how much of this method is just heavy massaging and other techniques similar to what we are doing now - just alot more indepth since its a 30-40min method. I still wouldn't mind doing masssage type things to grow while still taking herbs, but I'm concerned in reading that its the lymph nodes growing and nothing else................
I'd still be interested in knowing the method, but would only use it as a massage and for not as long, and not as my permanent NBE process.

I think if you feel comfortable with it then go for it, same as BO and PM, but I don't its a method for me.



cups2b
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Re: lactation
April 14 2007, 3:15 PM

This whole idea is crazy. No offence to anybody, but there's a limit...



Anonymous
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Re: lactation
April 14 2007, 3:23 PM

I'm also partly interested in this idea, since women who have been pregnant often respond quicker to NBE. Perhaps if you do the lactation, then you will respond quicker to the herbs afterwards.

Henri - I don't know if the herbs will 'maintain' the growth as such - as you say - it's not typical growth (lobe growth) - Unless that prolactin/fat-increase-in-breast is true. Also, I've never had children - so appreciated hearing of your memories of nursing. I'm pretty clueless.

Beth! Please keep us updated about the growyours.com programme if you don't mind. Congrats on your 3/4"

L X



Anonymous
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Re: lactation
April 14 2007, 3:26 PM

PS....

I read in an earlier post RE: massaging, that women who began lactating after chi massage used progesterone cream to prevent this. - You probably all already know, but progesterone is high during pregnancy and drops soon after birth allowing the milk to flow. Perhaps this could prevent engorgement to.



jennie
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re. lactation
April 14 2007, 3:35 PM

i'm not wanting to be negative and have always been willing to try anything as far as nbe is concerned. if this is only heavy massage etc as henri suggests, then i also would not be oppposed.

however, in my experience (i did a lot of massage first, experienced some growth, was very, very happy with my breasts and then for some stupid reason i read something about using suction to enlarge nipples-mine were always fairly small-and so i tried this and got carried away. i created the lactation effect by the strong suction on nipples and the next day realized i had done something horrible to my breasts. they had changed. they were no longer firm and no longer did i have the usual sensations. they no longer swell in the mornings as they used to. i miss this tremendously. also, i seem to have damaged, or weakened, the nipples. they no longer become erect as they used to. also, somehow the areola is damaged as well. it is smaller than before. there isn't much sensation there at all anymore. so i really messed up. anyhow, i became very, very ill, and, not realizing what i had done to myself, went through mastitis first and then breast candida. it took about three months of intense pain and suffering until we managed to get everything sorted out. once i took the medicine to deal with the candida it started to get better. however, since this episode, i struggle constantly with yeast infections. i have also been much drier vaginally since then. i think my estogen levels took a dip and still haven't righted themselves. it's been been over half a year now. in short, it really threw me off hormonally. i am not making this up. it has been a terrible episode in my life and the horrible thing is, it is permanent. every morning i wake up feeling totally depressed about it all.

this whole experience has caused me to realize how fortunate i was to have the breasts i had even though they were so pathetically small. at least they were firm and perky and gave me a lot of sexual pleasure. now they are weird and saggy and don't have much sensation at all. if i had given birth and nursed my child, i would not feel so broken-hearted. at least it would have all have been worth it, if you know what i mean. (even so, i understand how women must grieve for their former breasts, having nursed)

forgive me for being so long-winded. i just want to make women realize that we are all beautiful the way we are and the best thing to do (which i learned too late) is to appreciate and love our bodies the way they are.there is nothing wrong with small breasts! if only i had been content... now i look at young women with small vigin breasts with great envy.
if only i hadn't messed up mine!

so, please be careful. for me the effects will, sadly, be permanent. for this reason i worry about this method. but as i stated earlier, i haven't read the method (i have become paranoid).

i still do not think it is a good idea. please women, be safe, be careful. love your bodies the way the are.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 15 2007, 7:17 PM

This is interesting. I looked at the website and signed up to receive the information and try the program for free. At this point, it seems like that's what they are offering to everyone, so if you're curious give it a shot. I don't want to divulge the details of what their program is, you can find it out for free yourself just like I did and then make your own determination. I will say that their goal is to bring your breasts to the stage they were during pregnancy where they enlarged in preparation for lactating, but didn't necessarily lactate. What their program consists of is equal to the amount of effort some people on NBE put into their massage portion of their program. I am willing to give it a shot and see what happens. It doesn't appear that they are putting you into a full-on lactation state. I think any leakage is possible with some women but not intended.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 15 2007, 9:45 PM

As I mentioned above, I am on the program and have gained 3/4". However, my nipples have not leaked at all. Just thought I would let you guys know. I will keep you updated on my progress.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 16 2007, 2:14 PM

I told you guys that I would update you, so here we go. I have been on the program for 17 days so far and I have gained a total of....drumroll please...1.25"!!!!!!!! YAY!! I am so excited. Anyways, I will update again in a week or so and hopefully I will grow even more.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 16 2007, 4:01 PM

Oh my gosh Beth that's wonderful! Congrats! I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with me. I was pretty sore after starting yesterday. But I must say that the "process" was actually not uncomfortable. As far as you can tell so far they aren't trying to get you to be actually lactating, is that correct? I know the "instructions" seem like they will change weekly on what they want you to do. I can only view the instructions for the first week so far, I guess as I progress the weekly instructions will update automatically. Cool! :-)



Ann5
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Re: lactation
April 16 2007, 4:17 PM

Hmmm. Interesting. Lisa, Please keep us updated with your results.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 16 2007, 5:03 PM

Lisa, from my understanding, they want to bring you to right before you start to lactate. I have not lactated at ALL yet, so I will keep my fingers crossed. As far as the weekly routines, I think how much progress you have made determines how quickly you have moved through the program. I think once you get 1/2" and feel some lobes, they move you to the next week of the program, but I may be wrong.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 16 2007, 6:08 PM

Thanks, I will. Oh, and anonymous in answer to your initial question, yes, herbs will still work while lactating. If you were breast-feeding a child I'd advise against more than just mother's milk tea-type strengths of herbs because they are passed on in the breast milk to the baby. But if you're talking about lactating for breast enlargement, it's fine. I'm not sure though with this process if they are necessarily going to bring you to a full lactation state. There are a few mixed messages in the web-site, some say the goal is for the breasts to be as in the pregnancy state where they enlarge in preparation for milk making, but where you aren't having leakage and what-not, and then on other parts it talks about the health benefits of lactating. I will just see how it goes, I do agree with the "massage" techniques they are promoting to start the process. If anything, one could take the parts of the program that they feel might be beneficial to NBE and just not necessarily take it to the point of possible lactation, which is what I'm thinking of for myself. Lactating would be a mess at this point in life, but the precursor stuff could help the enlargement process. I'll keep updating on my personal program page (titled "it's hard to know what to try").



Anonymous
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Re: lactation
April 16 2007, 10:11 PM

Hi

Lisa - thanks for answering the initial question! That was the answer I was hoping for. Do you have children by the way - just wondering whether you had a head start after being pregnant. I wrote to Joseph (organiser of growyours) and he said that perhaps 1-1.5 inches is the most you can hope for if you've not had children - although, he's not sure and it could be more.

Beth - has the growyours programme made your nipples darker?

My plan is to do the lactation, but use PM cream to lighten the nipples if they do go really dark.

L X



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 4:21 PM

Hi LX!
Yes, I have 5 children from age 6 up to age 20, so I may respond well to the grow yours program. Have you started it yet? It's my third day and I'm sore. But that seems normal with the type of massaging going on where you're really targeting every point in the breasts. I wish the grow yours program allowed us to see the future stages of the program. I'm in the first week so it will only show first week instructions of course. Beth, does it change much from week to week? Do you know does it get to a stage where you're actively lactating? Or is that an optional thing? It's been my understanding on the subject of making yourself lactate that it takes a steady and scheduled amount of nipple stimulation and that's mostly it. So, with the other massaging techniques we're using I'm hoping it's meant to do something different to the breasts without having to end up lactating. Not that I'm against lactating, it's just that I don't think that's what I'm after with the maintenance of pumping and what-not that would probably be involved. But gosh, even for an inch and a half gain LX if you haven't had children, that along with what the herbs can do may be great for you. For me, I'm wondering if it could push me over into a full C cup. Beth, let us know how it's going for you with the actual program since you're further ahead into it than us. :-)



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 4:50 PM

Hey Lisa! We should start a growyours forum. My nipples have become a little darker, but I do not think that happens with everyone. I think you can basically expect the same changes you did when you were pregnant (darker nipples, bigger nipples, etc.) I think if you have many children and/or you were pregnant recently you respond a lot quicker than others. I had a baby 6 months ago, so I think that is why I responded so quickly. I never even became sore, but I think that I am weird. Anyways, I think if you experience any lactation, it will only be a few drops every once in a while. I do not think that you go into full lactation. I am still pretty new to this as well, so I am just going by what I have learned so far in my own experience, I may be wrong. I do not mind answering questions at all, I am excited to be able to share my progress. I just want everyone to know that I may not be correct in everything I tell you, the best person for that would be Joseph. As far as the program changes go, without giving out too much info, you use the same basic excercises, just in different time increments. I am on week 2, eventhough in theory, I should be on week 3. However, if your breast growth is not equal (for ex. your 3 inch above nipple growth is not at the same rate as your across nipple growth, like mine is) you will not move onto the next week until everything is equal. I think that is a great idea and I am glad that Joseph put that much thought into his program because who wants to be huge across your nipples, but small everywhere else YKWIM? I think that I answered all your questions. If I didn't, please let me know. Oh BTW, as far as I know, maintanance consists of doing massages anywhere from once a day to every 2 or 3 days depending on your body. I have not heard anything about having to pump or any of that. They are not wanting you to go into full lactation. Lisa, if you want, let me know and I will give you my email so we can discuss this without having to worry about confidentiality.



Henri
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 4:57 PM

Hey Girls - I have a question for you, now that some of you are aware of what the program consists of: Do you think the massaging would be beneficial to all NBE process's?
And I am also curious at what point there is the chance of lactation or leakeage?



Anonymous
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 5:31 PM

Hi Henri,
I'll try to answer. The "massaging" part of the program in my opinion could be benificial to NBE. So many people here say how vital massage is, and I had gotten to the point where I wasn't massaging any at all, only a few minutes just to get my oils or creams soaked in. But to do the grow yours program you do have to spend about half an hour twice a day doing their specific massage techniques. So at least now I am doing that step that helps with NBE. There's another component to the program involving the nipples which I'm trying to figure out whether or not it is intended for the actual lactation part of the process, which I may not be interested in. I was under the impression that to lactate you do need to do nipple stimulation several times a day for long periods of time, and so far that's not what the program does. In my opinion, and I could be wrong, but I don't think actual milk production and leakage would be an issue unless one is concentrating on the amount of nipple stimulation it would take to begin to actually lactate. Again, I could be wrong! But I'm taking it a step at a time and if it gets to the point where I'm uncomfortable with anything I will not go any further. I'm already having some soreness and a slight burning feeling in my breasts from the massages, so I think they are of benefit in some way. If anything I would continue them and not go further if I get worried about any leaking issues.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 5:31 PM

Hi Henri,
I'll try to answer. The "massaging" part of the program in my opinion could be benificial to NBE. So many people here say how vital massage is, and I had gotten to the point where I wasn't massaging any at all, only a few minutes just to get my oils or creams soaked in. But to do the grow yours program you do have to spend about half an hour twice a day doing their specific massage techniques. So at least now I am doing that step that helps with NBE. There's another component to the program involving the nipples which I'm trying to figure out whether or not it is intended for the actual lactation part of the process, which I may not be interested in. I was under the impression that to lactate you do need to do nipple stimulation several times a day for long periods of time, and so far that's not what the program does. In my opinion, and I could be wrong, but I don't think actual milk production and leakage would be an issue unless one is concentrating on the amount of nipple stimulation it would take to begin to actually lactate. Again, I could be wrong! But I'm taking it a step at a time and if it gets to the point where I'm uncomfortable with anything I will not go any further. I'm already having some soreness and a slight burning feeling in my breasts from the massages, so I think they are of benefit in some way. If anything I would continue them and not go further if I get worried about any leaking issues.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 5:44 PM

Lisa, for some reason my posts are not going through but everyone else's is. If they decide to post this, you can IM me on MSN messenger at emorgan7719@hotmail.com with your questions.



Henri
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 7:24 PM


Lisa- I am very interested in the massage technique, but I think since its still under trial then I wouldn't be able to honestly get the techniques, because I wouldn't be giving the trial a go, just using the massage techniques. So I will just wait and see how everyone who decides to try it does and judge my opinion off that. Thanks for answering my questions and I hope that you grow oodles!!!
Henri



Betty
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 7:31 PM

Hi Lisa and Beth,

I was so intrigued that I have also decided to enroll in the free trial program. I will be starting tomorrow. Please keep updating us on your progress here.

Wishing you both conintued success!

Cheers,
Betty

Ask, Believe and you will Receive



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 8:05 PM

Henri- I do not think that the program is a trial. As far as I know, his program has been around for a couple years, maybe longer. I think he is just offering a free trial so that girls on here and on the BE board can see that it actually works. Joseph (the owner of growyours) wants other women to be able to take our word instead of people that they might not believe. I understand where you are coming from, just thought I would tell you that.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 11:01 PM

Betty
I think that you will be happy with the program, I am anyways. The website is very user friendly and everyone else that I have talked to that are trying it are getting good results. Please keep us updated on your progress as well.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 11:24 PM

Hi Beth! I don't have messenger, but is it alright to email you at that email address with my questions? Maybe what's happening with your posts sometimes is that if you're not logged in the post doesn't go on right away, the moderator has to screen it first. It'll go up eventually usually.
I will keep my personal program page updated with how I'm doing with grow yours. I'm still doing my regular program along with it too.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 17 2007, 11:30 PM

Good luck Betty! I figure it's worth a shot if we're willing since it's free.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 2:36 AM

Lisa,
Yes, you can email me if you want. I will try to help as much as I can. Good luck ladies!!



Anonymous
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To Beth
April 18 2007, 10:00 AM

Which website are you using? I can only find a trial which asks you to send pictures and updates...



Betty
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Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 1:33 PM

Thanks Lisa and Beth. I will update here as well.

I figured if someone was going to offer me the opportunity to grow breasts naturally and for free, what have I got to lose? The only time in my life that I had breasts I was happy with was when I was preggers. They were gorgeous and I would so love to see those girls again.

Cheers,
Betty

Ask, Believe and you will Receive



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 2:19 PM

Betty- I know how you feel. Too bad they were hard to nitice with the big belly. It looks like this is really working for everyone, I know it is for me. Betty, I am sending you big boobie vibes.

Anonymous- Just fill out the information for that trial. I believe it is the same one. Joseph said that we did not need to send pictures. He will want you to post updates on your progress (good or bad) on message boards you use though, just so that other women can hear about your experience. he is very confident that it will be a good one, that is why he is offering it. He does tell you to take pictures, but for your own reference, so you can see the before and after, not for his use. You do not have to send them to him at all. If you still have problems, I would send Joseph an email. Are all of you girls on this board in the UK? I am in the US.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 3:59 PM

http://www.growyours.com/index.php



Fujiapple
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* * 7th day on program...* *
April 18 2007, 5:57 PM

Hi, Beth & Lisa & Betty:

I'm very glad to know there're many of you trying this program.

I'm on the 7th day, boobies are slightly fuller and heavier however not so sore like the 1st 2 days, though.

BTW, Beth, for 3 days I didn't have any current instruction, wondering why?! I emailed to Joseph but he didn't answer me yet...Do you happen to know what's the reason?!

Many thanks for your help in advance.

Fujiapple



Betty
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Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 6:07 PM

Hi Beth,

I am in Canada. Thanks for the well wishes, I am sending many positive boobie vibes your way too!

Welcome Fujiapple!

I am so glad we are able to share our progress and discuss it here. It is always more motivating when you have partners in crime!! This is going to be a fun journey.

Cheers,
Betty






Beth
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Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 6:17 PM

Fujiapple-- I am not sure why that is. I have not had that problem. I know you said that you are on your 7th day, but if I were you, I would continue with your current excercises for the moment. If you have experienced growth and/or changes in lobe size, you will probably be moved up to week 2, but probably not until then. You are completing your daily questions and measurements right? If you do not, then the program will not move you up to the next week. I know that last time I talked to Joseph, he had 2 deaths in the family, so that may be why it is hard to get ahold of him right now. Hope this helps!

Ladies,
I forgot to mention this earlier, but I have been sleeping on a heating pad set on low every night since I started this program. I do not know if it helps, but with 1 1/4" growth in 17 days, I know it isn't hurting. Happy growing!!



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 18 2007, 11:42 PM

I'm happy we're all trying this together! I'm on day 4 and the tops have grown 1/2 an inch, but no growth yet on the area that I measure normally at the largest part, so hopefully that's next.
Good luck! :-)



jelica_
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 12:35 AM

Hmmmm.... that sounds interesting ? is it hard to measure ? I always stuff that up !



Kitty
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 1:35 AM

How did u get the trial version? The website says it costs $149!



Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 11:55 AM

I don't think its on trial anymore. I thought I read over on the BeBoard that it was in the process of being switched over to payment - you migh try e-mail joseph at the address he lists over there and seeing if you can still try out. I would think that pretty soon he won't be offering at all anymore, he had originally posted only about 20 girls or so if I remember correctly.

I will confess being a critic of this method, I broke down and signed up for it the other night..........I figured it was free, and worst that happened is that it didn't work right? well that I start producing milk :-) No changes yesterday which was day 2, today is day 3 and they feel bigger and firmer, but I haven't measured yet - will do that as soon as DH leaves for work...............I am also gradually working up to the time frame recommended, my hands start to hurt after a while........ONe question, do your boobs hurt? mine are very very sore and painful - and under the arms aren't too hot either. Being a stomach sleeper, sleep last night was almost impossible.

Heres to these kinds of boobs!!! ( o Y o ) thanks for the icons Faery!!!



Anonymous
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Beth
April 19 2007, 3:48 PM

Hi Beth

I'm interested in the heating pad you use! I can't find one that will stay on all night - all the ones I find shut off after 1.5 hours. What's it called - I'll google it.
Congratualations on your growth - and in no time at all!




Betty
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 3:54 PM

Glad to have you on this journey with us Henri!

I am still waiting for my initial instructions and have emailed Joeseph. I am anxious to get started. How long did it take for you ladies to get the instructions after entered your initial measurements?

Betty



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Beth
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 3:58 PM

Betty,
When you can log in and you enter your first measurements, if you click under Video instruction, it should tell you there. It might be better if you email me about this. I do not want to accidently say too much!



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 4:01 PM

Just thought I would let everyone know that Joseph posted on the BEBoard telling ladies that he is still offering the free trial, but not for much longer. You might want to hop over there and read his post!



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 4:06 PM

Betty,
You might not be accessing the instructions correctly, because they should be there for you if you've entered your measurements. Click on the video instruction tab. If that's not working email Joseph.
Henri,
Welcome! I've gotta say that I really noticed a big difference on my fourth day. Today is my fifth day. I have already grown over half an inch in the upper portion (above nips). Yippee! The measurement at the nips is starting to grow now too. This really does work. I was/am very sore, so that's normal. I even feel a burning sensation in them sometimes. The soreness is supposed to pass, just keep at it. I agree, the worst that can happen is we decide at some point it's not for us, and we back off. As long as this can be maintained though and we remain comfortable with it, how great that we can do it! :-)



Betty
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 4:09 PM

Hi Lisa,

I watched all of the videos and input my measurement, but when I click on the progrss link it says this

Progress - Instruction

Currently, you don't have instruction.



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Betty
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 4:11 PM

Forgive me Lisa, You are correct. I clicked on the Video link again and I now have more options. Thanks!! :o)



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Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 4:18 PM

No problem I'm glad it's working!

Here's a thought.....some of the massaging that people here are doing is stimulating the "lobes" just like what we are doing acomplishes. For some who swear that their massage portion of their program is very important and is helping them grow, they are unknowingly doing the same type of thing we are doing. Even though ours is a bit different, the idea behind what the massaging does (stimulate the lobes for growth) is essentially the same. Do you think?



Fujiapple
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* * Yap, soreness underarm...* *
April 19 2007, 5:25 PM

Hi, all:

Today is my 8th day on program, I DID receive the same message as Betty's received: currently you don't have instruction. Then I emailed Joseph that he told me actually he has no idea why came out that message (I DO input all daily measurement...)Anyways, I continue the same exercises like previous days.

I found there's few lumps in both of my boobies and these 2 days more soreness under my armpits. I think it's normal and a good sign during this process. Henri, don't you worry!!! :-)

I agree w/Lisa, the massage (like CHI...)should promote prolactin level like growyours however growyours process even deeper and thru out all boobies, I think.

Happy boobie growing



Betty
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 5:26 PM

I agree 100%. It seems like massage is the major component and is required for NBE. I am just so pleased to be shown how to target those lobes accurately.



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Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 6:05 PM

That's awesome fujiapple! It's amazing how fast the growth starts happening with this process. I think that this in combination with whatever other program's we're all on will give us greater results than we imagined we could have. I'll gladly keep the "massages" up forever if that's what it takes to keep bigger boobies! :-)



Fujiapple
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* * Supplement...* *
April 19 2007, 8:16 PM

Hi, Lisa:

Just viewed your personal program page and found out you're still taking single herbs while doing growyours, I don't think it's a good idea: 1) If you grow, you have no idea which one promotes the growth. 2) If you don't grow, probably will blame Joseph. (hahaha...)

I was quitting any internal herbs(I was taking PM be4), only taking 1 Multi-V and 1000 mg of Borage oil be4 bed but using PM cream and soap externally.

Please read Joseph post @ BE Board, regarding taking other herbs
along w/his program:

http://beboard.proboards107.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1174754371&page=4

Happy Boobie growing



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 9:12 PM

Hi Fugiapple,
I took a look at it but didn't see where he actually said that we shouldn't take any herbs or anything else while using his program. I understand what you're saying, as far as not knowing what the growth was from if you grew and did both methods. For me though, I have grown while on my herbs for the past three months and I can tell that the growth I'm having now is indeed different and is from the growyours plan. But you do bring up a good point. Maybe I'll use this new program as a chance to take a break from the herbs and see what happens. :-)



annie2
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 11:44 PM

Hi girls, i'm joining u on the Grow Youra band wagon. LOL. What i wouldn't do for boobs. Ahah. will start tomarrow, i got my instruction today.
happy growing to all.



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 19 2007, 11:50 PM

Awesome Annie! Be diligent, changes seem to start almost immediately and it's totally rewarding! :-)



jelica_
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Ive applied too !
April 20 2007, 2:31 AM

well I am most curious about this so Im waiting on a response from grow yours too. will see if theyll have me as a guinea pig too !



Anonymous
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For those who have breast fed
April 20 2007, 2:54 AM

HI,

I just wondered whether after breast feeding:

- do your nipples lose sensitivity (sexual pleasure - don't response and become erect)
- do they stay a dark colour - or return to the original colour.

Thanks!

L xx



annie2
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Re: lactation
April 20 2007, 1:56 PM

Hi lisa ,here to some boobage. gonna start today, do u do it same time evrery day . it's kinda hard for me to do it at the exactly same time.
Thanks



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 20 2007, 2:46 PM

Well ladies..I am here to tell you that Joseph warns everyone about your growth slowing down in the 3rd week or so because of not doing massages as aggresively as in the begining. That has happened to me. I have kept the growth so far, but I have not grown anymore. I know it is my fault. I have not been massaging as aggresively the past 4 or 5 days, so I am going to get back with the program full force. Take it from me, keep doing the massages aggresively, even when you are tired. I will post again when I get some more growth. Hopefully, in the next few days. Happy growing!



Lisa
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Re: lactation
April 20 2007, 3:57 PM

Annie,
I try to do it at the same time in the morning and in the evening, but sometimes I can't so then I just do the best I can, and try to get in two rounds a day. I think it'll still be fine.



Fujiapple
(Login Fujiapple)
* * about the nipples...* *
April 20 2007, 5:53 PM

Hi, l xx:

to answer your question about nipples after breastfeeding:

1) Mine don't lose their sensitivity after breastfeeding, even more sensitive than be4!!!

2) The color of nipple returned to pre-pregancy however after breastfeeding, my nipples got larger!!!

Happy boobie growing



Fujiapple
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* * time, time...* *
April 20 2007, 6:00 PM

Hi, Beth:

Thanks for the warning, I'll try to keep that in mind! :-)

Lisa & Anne:

I'm having trouble to keep long massage in the morning (coz I usually woke up late...:-( ) the evening one w/o any problem.

Since Beth mentioned about keeping as aggresively as possbile, I'll should wake up early, though...

Happy Boobie growing




Suzy
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As one who has breastfed...
April 20 2007, 7:16 PM

In response to the question above:

I breastfed two children for a total of 39 months, and I found the same as Fujiapple; increased sensitivity afterwards and colour returned to normal, but they are slightly larger than before!



MFP
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Hiya ladies! lol
April 20 2007, 8:52 PM

I too have jumped in on the Grow Yours band wagon. I'm so excited about this process and can't wait to get started. I've been reading about this a lot from the BE Board but wasn't tempted to try until I read your amazing results so far.

So here's to happy bigger boobies!



Cat



annie2
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Re: lactation
April 20 2007, 9:30 PM

I breast fed my daughter for 8 months, my areola got a little larger from before. my nipple r still sensitive alot.

Did my frist massage this morning, my Gosh my hands hurt so much.
Welcome MFP.

All the best to all.



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 20 2007, 11:13 PM

This is awesome ladies, we've started a new boobie growing trend over here! Mine are really filling out and I'm so excited it's working! I know what you mean about the morning massage being difficult. With 3 little kiddos still at home I have to wake up a half hour before they do to get in a morning massage without it taking away from our schedule and them noticing I'm locked in my room for a half hour doing who knows what, lol. But it's important, so I try to make myself get up and do it. Good luck all!



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 21 2007, 2:55 AM

Hey girls! I massaged very vigourosly (sp?) as much as possible today and my boobs have already filled back out! Ladies, never underestimate masssages. At this rate, I would not be suprised if I have grown by tomorrow night if I keep it up. I am so glad that we have each other to share this great thing with. I will update in a couple days.



Anonymous
(Login Sarabell239)
Re: lactation
April 21 2007, 5:14 AM

Hi girls+
This new method is really interesting to me. I want to sign up for the free trial, but i don't know if ireally have the time right now(started a new job thats far and hard and long). is it possible to do these excersies while driving, or this a completely ridiculous question? thanks for any input, good luck girls.



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 21 2007, 6:08 AM

Hi! There's no way you could do this while driving. You need to have about a half an hour twice a day at home to devote to this.



spunkymum
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interested
April 21 2007, 10:31 AM

Hey, I all but signed up for this a few days ago then being realistic came to terms with fact that I dont have time for 1 hour massage each day right now but am FASCINATED to see how you girls go so puhlease keep up the reports!!!
Thanks.



Beth
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Re: lactation
April 21 2007, 2:13 PM

Sarabell,
There was another lady on here that said she was doing the massages in her car. I am not sure if it was here, or on the BE Board, but she may be able to answer your question better. You only need one hand at a time to do the massages, so as long as you do not mind people seeing you feel yourself up LOL, and you have a long drive I am not sure why you wouldn't be able to. Unless, you wear a padded or thick bra because you have to make sure you make aggressive contact with the breast tissue.
On another note, am I the only one here who has experienced beautifully clear skin and great hair! I noticed this about 1 week after starting. After doing my massages yeterday, I have gained about an 1/8". That proves to me that if I stay really determined, I can continue to grow very quickly. So I am up about 1.36" approximately. Happy growing!



Anonymous
(Login Sarabell239)
Thanks Lisa
April 21 2007, 6:38 PM

Ya, I thought it was a long shot, no I know. I'm with the girl above-don't have the time right now for it-but please keep us posted with your progress. In a month or two I will def. have more time. I am think of cutting back on herbs, and this may be a great new program. have a great weekend+++



Anonymous
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SENIOR MEMBER
My Update
April 21 2007, 8:17 PM

Well somethings happened a few days ago so I didn't get to massage quite like I had been, so for three days my massages were hit or miss, but I was able to start them back up today so we shall see how things go.

I am feeling some tenderness now instead of pain and I think I feel some lumps - so from what I read, I am right on track - haven't measured since Wed. so I will be measuring tonight after I shower and marking them down - don't think I have grown so if I have great - if not then I'll just keep trying. I really think those few days made a big difference on how far along I am.




Skyler
(Login skyler_s)
Re: lactation
April 21 2007, 8:31 PM

What is the difference between these massages and the kind of massages used by Fengshui and Tiger Lily?



Anonymous
(Login Sarabell239)
Thanks Beth
April 21 2007, 11:02 PM

I just saw your message, thanks for the reply! Ya, I just thought today that it is worth a shot. Ya, I could care less what people think if they see me-maybe it will provide some mild entertainment for them on the crappy commute! I am goon give it a shot. Congrats on your growth! Plus great hair and skin+++ I mean, com on-I can't not try this! Hope the free trial is still on-gonna check it out now..



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 21 2007, 11:15 PM

Here's why I said I don't think you could do them in the car while driving. For one, driving takes both hands and your full attention. But for technical reasons, I can say that for one when I do my "massages" for the program I have to use oil, so if you are like me there would be the issue of oil and the bra and the clothes. Also, using this method there is a "grid" that you follow so that you get each portion of the breast and I either do this facing a mirror so I stay in line or if not I look down several times to make sure I'm not veering off course. I don't see how you could accomplish this detail while driving. I get up a half hour early to do my first round and do my last round before bed, so most people should be able to fit that into their schedule whatever it may be. It's really working for me! :-)



Anonymous
(Login Sarabell239)
Re: lactation
April 22 2007, 12:25 AM

Thanks Lisa. Ya i am not into grit. i'll see, i jyst sent in my info to sign up for the trial. i'll give it a shot and if i can keep up with it then great. i do like to look in the mirror when massaging. it does seem like quite a commitment. i'll keep you girls posted if i do get offered the trial...



Fujiapple
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* * the difference between Growyours and Tiger Lily's...* *
April 22 2007, 1:22 AM

Hi, Skyler:

I was using Fengshui (or Tiger Lily) massage method be4, so I can tell you what's the difference: the 1st method (whether using your whole hand or knuckles) the strength only to help better blood circulation; while growyours (there're 6 levels depends on how you grow...)not only helping your blood circulation but also well-massaging your each lobes (that's why you need at least 42 mins for each time; that's why you can't drive while massaging... hahaha!)

Happy boobie growing




annie2
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Re: lactation
April 22 2007, 2:41 AM

2nd day on grow yours, boobs are sore to touch and feel abit heavy, I want so much for this to work for me.
Hi sara i did read a post where someone said they did the massage while driving,but i don't think i could do that. My hands get so tired, especially my left hand when i'm massaging the right boob. Do keep us posted on how it work mout for u if u do it while driving.

well i'm off the do my night massage.
Happy growing to all.

Also beth that's great that u r experiencing clear skin , I would love that.



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Holy cow!
April 22 2007, 6:22 AM

Ok, it's been one week on grow yours now and I have gained one inch! The upper portion of the boobs are filling in more, but only 1/2 an inch so far. I'm super pleased with this! Starting a diet tomorrow so I'm anticipating losing a little weight around my mid-section, but keeping the boobs growing. Yippee! :-)




Myjourney
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web addy
April 22 2007, 2:42 PM

here is the addy for the free trial:

http://growyours.com/Application.htm

I may just try this....



MFP
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SENIOR MEMBER
I have not been massaging
April 22 2007, 6:04 PM

Work has been REAL hectic these last few days, so I wasn't able to do the "massages" these two days... I will do so tonight before bed time though. But I must say I felt more sore when I was using my knuckles instead of just my fingers while doing the massages, and I think I'd continue to do that..... let's see if I can catch up on missed "sessions".

I have to say also, that lilmama and beth and all the others are a true inspiration. Please keep us posted, esp when we're feeling "lazy"...lol..


Cathy



Anonymous
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Question
April 23 2007, 11:39 AM

Do any of your girls feel a "let down" feeling a few hours after a massage? I'll massage in the morning and by lunch I feel like my milk is coming in. And then by evening when I take my bra off for the night I feel slightly engorged even though there isn't really any difference in my boobs.



Betty
(Login BiggerBoobsPlease)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 1:31 PM

Well I don't know about you ladies, but holy crap my wrists and forearms are as sore as my boobs! lol It is a good sore, but still very sore.

I feel heavier after four days of consistent massaging. I also feel sore like I did in the early days of pregnancy. I think this is going to do it girls! I really believe that in 30 days we will all be so pleased with our progress.

Question: Have any of you found it harder to apply enough pressure in your evening massage because you are still so sore from the morning one? I had a hard time last night because I was really sore. I still did the full massage, but prob not as hard as I did the morning massage. Do you just keep applying as much pressure as possible?

Cheers to you all!

Betty

Ask, Believe and you will Receive



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 4:16 PM

Henri,
I sometimes feel that feeling that I think you could describe as engorgement, like where you feel like you did when it was "time" for the baby to nurse and it would give you some relief finally. When I actually do the massages though, I then feel relief. It's weird, because there's nothing there! I do feel tender most of the time. I feel the lobes are enlarging now, so that's a good sign.
Betty,
My hands, wrists, arms don't really get sore. Are you following the technique the video shows as far as how you hold your hand and just use the tips of 2 or 3 fingers to push in as you do your rotations? Sometimes during the rotations on one side that arm will get a little tired and I'll switch arms for a minute and then switch back again, but nothing serious. And I'm applying steady pressure, but not so hard that it actually "hurts" a lot, it's just sore/tender. Be careful! We don't want you getting injured!
I'm ready for my second week's instructions but don't seem to have them yet. I don't know if it automatically updates or if it has to be manually put in by Joseph or how it works, but I'm eager to see if I have to change anything.
I'm so glad this is working! :-)



MFP
(Login MissFartyPants)
SENIOR MEMBER
Right now
April 23 2007, 4:55 PM

I'm just happy that I can actually feel the lobes and I am still amazed! lol I've only been doing the evening massages since I really can't find the time in the morning. But yeah, my arms feel more "sore" than my breasts sometimes.

I've never been pregnant but I'm curious about one thing though. Does anyone of you feel as if your breasts feel like one big lump? I mean if you cup your breast it kinda feels "hard" I don't know if that is supposed to be "rubbery" but it does feel like that.

I'm skipping the nipple massages though I'm afraid of too much stimulation there. lol



Beth
(no login)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 5:02 PM

MFP,

My boobs felt like that in the begining as well. I was worried about hubby thinking that they felt weird (hope that isn't TMI), but he hasent noticed anything other than that they are bigger and fuller.

I have gained about 1.4" so far and I have been on the program about 22 days so far I think. I have noticed that the past few days, my boobs are MUCH fuller eventhough I have not gained in measurements. I can say that now I LOVE THE WAY MY BOOBS LOOK! lol I just want to get them about 1 cup bigger (hoping that is possible), and then I will completely love them.



Betty
(Login BiggerBoobsPlease)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 5:22 PM

Hi Lisa,

I believe that in order to get your week 2 instructions, you have to go input your measurements in the daily questions area. I measured incorrectly across the breasts initially (too tight according to the video instructions) and I noticed when I input the correct measurement which was 2 inches bigger, I automatically got the week 2 instructions. I haven't had that much growth as of yet as I am only on day 5 of the program, I just learned how to measure correctly. It looks like once you have started with your gains you will be moved on accordingly. I am most certainly feeling lobes though so I am going to continue with the Week 1 massages for at least 4 or 5 more days before I move on to week 2.

Sometimes when I am doing the figertip massage part of the process, my writs and forearms get really tired, it is ok to use your knuckles for a few minutes to rest your fingers, or will the knuckles apply too much pressure or the wrong kind or pressure?

Betty



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 5:52 PM

I think it's ok to use the knuckles for a minute for a break, just don't push too hard. The fingertip idea is probably because you can actually "feel" the lobes that way.
I have put all my measurements in daily and I've gained an inch now but no new directions are coming up for me, and Joseph hasn't answered my email yet. I'm a little frustrated! I mismeasured on my initial measurements, I think many people make that mistake. I guess they are trying to work all the bugs out though. Does week 2 change instruction signifficantly? I'm ready if so but haven't been able to access it.



Fujiapple
(Login Fujiapple)
* * Wrong initial measurement...* *
April 23 2007, 6:16 PM

Hi, all:

This thread's getting longer & longer. lol

Lisa & Betty;

Me three!!! I got the wrong initial measurment and I emailed Joseph but he told me that's the one he can't fix coz there're lots of consideration...AND I'm still in week 1 (I'm on 12th day)
coz my initial wrong measurement!!!:-(

BTW, I Do feel slightly engorgement from time to time however not visible increase but I DO feel HEAVIER that be4...

Happy Boobie growing



Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 6:27 PM

Yes Lisa that is what is happening to me. They feel engorged but as soon as I massage them, the feeling goes away. I am not engorged because to touch them they don't even feel hard like when I really was engorged but they ache like they are...........its getting to the point that they are aching all day now and I have to move them around a bit else they are a little uncomfortable. I am measuring again tonight. Seems like I have gained about 1/4 inch so far in really 4day of actual massaging, so thats cool. But my lobes aren't huge feeling - infact sometimes I am not sure if I am feeling them or not, and I seem to have more on my left side then my right - wonder if thats why my left side has always been bigger? Anyway just wanted to post that my boobs are almost even now!!!! WOOHOO.

My fingers get sore, and today noticed some bruising so I think I pushed too hard last night, but I found that switching inbetween techniques makes a huge difference.....



Betty
(Login BiggerBoobsPlease)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 6:32 PM

Lisa,

If you want to send me your private email account, I can send you what I have for week 2. I don't want to post it here as we are bound by the confidentiality agreement. Since we are both in the program I don't think it would be a problem to share that info with you.

Cheers,
Betty



Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 7:16 PM

So much info in this thread, I have not read everything yet, but I am extremely interested in this method. I will keep informing myself for now, but later I might try it. It sounds very promising. Some methods of NBE seem at least as risky, like bovine ovary. But I think that once you inform yourself, study well the available empyrical evidence, it might show it's not so scary.



Anonymous
(no login)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 7:20 PM

Hi Fujiapple! It's so frustrating if it's something he can't fix!
Henri,
I think we feel this feeling because we're familiar with it from breastfeeding, except back then it would just keep filling up and filling up until it was ready to burst, lol. Maybe now it'll just feel full but be relieved with a massage. I'll gladly put up with it!
Betty,
Thank you so much, I'd love it if you could email me what to do. Yes, since we're both on it and I'm just having a glitch because I mis-measured the first day I'm sure it's fine. My email is lilmama2007@cox.net



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 7:42 PM

Oops, I replied but forgot to log in so it didn't post yet. Betty, I'd sure appreciate that! It's lilmama2007@cox.net
Thanks!



Betty
(Login BiggerBoobsPlease)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 8:18 PM

Hi Lisa,

I just sent off an email to you.


Moon: Personally this is the least scary of all of the methods for me. You are not putting anything in or on your body. It is simply targeted massage techniques that so far seem more natural than any of the other things I have tried. If you can still get in on the free trial study, I would highly recommend it!

Cheers,
Betty



annie2
(Login annieboobs)
EVE MEMBERS
wrong initial measurement
April 23 2007, 8:26 PM

Hi ladies, i'm on day 4 of grow yours massage. boobs are sore to touch and i'm feeling a few pains during the day as well . My boobs are feeling soft, i can feel the lobes too, my finger get so sore during the massage i have to rest for a while, i hope i'm putting enough pressure in it. Boobs are feeling heavy ane very sore.
lisa i did put in the wrong measurement in my first log in. I didn't inform joseph of it ,hopefully when i finish week1 he can change it.I just want to have the strenght to keep up with this .we have each other for support so it will be easier.












Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 8:50 PM

Thanks Betty! Annie, keep it up, I think we're all doing great! I agree, this is the least "unknown" of the methods, it's most similar to actually lactating and I've done that 4 times already!



Snowflake
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Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 9:56 PM

I am not really familar with this, although I have breastfeed three babies. I guess my question is, what stops you from leaking, like you do when you are actually nursing, I remember those wet spots coming through my bra and shirts and it was quite embarrasing. Are you actually producing milk with this process? and if you do have liguid in your breast how do you have sex without leaking again? And also isn''t everyone afraid of getting carpel tunnel in wrists and worst shoulder injuries? Really I am not trying to be sarcastic, I seriously want to know. And also how long do you think you can physically continue with rigourous massage? I hope someone takes the time to explain everything to me. THanks girls.



Lisa
(Login lilmama40)
Re: lactation
April 23 2007, 10:43 PM

Snowflake,
Good questions! I'm only a week into it so I don't have all the answers, but basically this program doesn't actually take you to full lactation. It puts your breasts into a state simulating pregnancy when they "prepared" for lactation. But without a demand to actually produce milk and continue a process of producing milk, emptying the breasts of the milk, and making new milk to be emptied again, there's not actually lactation happening. It's all about supply and demand when it comes to milk, so since there's not a demand persay, like with nursing a baby, it's not continually being replenished so there's no leaking. It's difficult to explain because we're not supposed to divulge the details of the process, and that's why the questions are sometimes not easy to answer in detail. I'm not having any issues with my hands or wrists or shoulders or anything, and actually the more you do this twice a day the easier it becomes and the faster it can be acomplished and I actually try to throw a third round in on the days that I can just to speed my results up. I really do promote the validity of this method, especially if one wants to take a cleansing break from herbs or from BO or whatever they may be on. I'd rather maintain this than maintain pills for the rest of my life. I hope that helped some! :-)



Fujiapple
(Login Fujiapple)
* * Great questions...* *
April 23 2007, 11:19 PM

Hi, Snowflake:

Be4 answering your questions, I have to admit that I had the same concerns as yours when I first read this method about a year ago (both here & BE Board), and I was against this method if you happened to read one thread posted in Feb.07.:-)

After I re-read these old threads as well as current one @ BE Board, I have better idea and understanding to this concept then I joined the free trial which Joseph offers, specially I've been on BE journey since 2002, I can tell which BE routine more suitable for me and working: commercial pills not working at all; PM serum only gave me some lifting; single herbs made me gaining weight all over the body (yap, including my boobies!); most recent I tried PM pills and had really bad side effects.

And I wonder & wonder why not give growyours a try? I don't mind to spend 2 hrs on BE massage( even thereafter...)That's the time I TAKE SERIOUSLY to read every info on growyours website. Here is what I learned from Growyours; ladies please correct me if I'm wrong:

1) The essential exercises (or massage)from growyours to help you to reach the PREGNANCY STAGE not actually producing milk however possible drops happened when you massage.

2) Absoutly it ain't sexy when seeing(or sucking...) leaking while making out! lol I can tell you so far so good, no leaking happens.

3) Yap, when you first do this exercise is kind of sore but it's not really finger injury! hahaha.. I can recall when I first tried the CHI massage for 100 rotations and my arm seemed not mine but gradually I get use