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To Moonkissed
February 20 2007 at 9:56 PM Anonymous (no login)
HI there -
I'm interested in your vitex programme - I wondered if you obtained your inch of growth with vitex alone - or whether you have been using massage, protein drink or other herbs as well?
Thanks for you time
Moonkissed
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Re: To Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 3:28 AM
Hey,
Yes, I believe that most of my growth may be attributed to vitex. The reason is that after I started taking it back in October, I stopped taking all other herbs, gelatin capsules, and pytoestrogen-rich foods because I suspected a hormonal imbalance, and I did not want the effects of the vitex to be counteracted by pytoestrogens. From then on to the present time, vitex is the only thing I have been taking. I only massage my smaller breast, because the larger one does not need massages as it keeps on growing on its own. Also, I apply a heating pad to the smaller breast for an hour each night. On occasion, I might drink a cup of fennel tea, but this is the extent of any other herbs I have taken in.
Vitex has been a good herb so far, but I am also researching another herb, because I know that I will need to break from it at least for a while to cleanse out the system.
Good luck with your routine!
rose
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Re: To Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 11:04 AM
i have been on vitex for about 9 weeks now but i am also on saw palmetto and fenugreek which i take only one tablet twice a day and the vitex i take the reccommended dosage so far i have not seen much growth only fullness i also massage with wild yam do you think i am taking too much to stop the vitex from working???
any help is appreciated...thanks
gingerD
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Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 12:39 PM
Hi Moonkissed-Could you tell me since Vitex would you say the Pains/aches/tingles have increased or feel different from when you was on your herbs?
Iv only been on Vitex about 2 weeks, and i dont know if its me but i ache alot around the bust.
Thank you
Henri
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Re: To Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 12:44 PM
I have a Vitex question too :-) When you stopped your herbs, did your boobs kinda deflate for a while? The reason I ask is I haven't done herbs in about a week and a half and my girls are starting to look sorry now, and I don't know if this will pass or not, or if I should start herbs back up........
Moonkissed
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Re: To Moonkissed
February 22 2007, 4:15 AM
Rose My advice would be to cut out the vitex entirely and stick with fenugreek and saw palmetto, unless you have a hormonal imbalance. Unlike herbs such as fenugreek, red clover, hops, fennel, licorice, etc., vitex is not a pytoestrogenic herb. What vitex does is stimulates the hypothalamus and pituitary gland to increase the luteinizing hormone. The luteinizing hormone reacts by sensing what hormone is lacking (such estrogen or progesterone), secretes out the needed hormone, or sends out signals to the body to produce the needed hormone. In most cases (like mine), the hormone needed is progesterone. If your hormones are as they should be, than vitex will make little or no difference for you in terms of breast growth.
gingerD When I was on other herbs, I did not experience any pains or tingles. Since I grew anyway, I just assumed this was the way my breasts expanded, without aches or pains. However, after dropping all herbs and using vitex, I experience brief shooting or throbbing pains in both breasts, typically more in my larger breast. Those pains started about three months after starting vitex, although as before, some minimal growth did occur prior to the pains starting. Now, I get them at least several times a week.
Henri After I stopped taking the other herbs, my breasts did not deflate. They stayed the same size. They didnt grow much, either, until after two months on the vitex, but I was fortunate not to lose any growth. I think one thing that helped was to keep on massaging while waiting for the vitex to work; that and trying to keep up a positive attitude about the wait, because vitex is a slow-working herb.
rose
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confused!!!
February 22 2007, 11:00 AM
thanks for the advice but how do i know if i have hormone imbalance...my periods were irregular and i did get pms notas bad as some of the others have reported but was moody and teary eyed for a few days....since being on vitex my periods were regular one month butwas late again last period....past few days have been having aches and pains in both breasts cant report growth but feel somthing is happening if i cut out vitex completly do you suggest wonderup because fenugreek and saw palmetto doesnt seem like its enough to make me grow.....i am 34 and have 4 children who i only breast fed 2 months or so.....any advice is appreciated.....
thanks
rose
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Re: To Moonkissed
February 22 2007, 11:19 AM
sorry i forgot to add i was on the pill for about 6 months but my periods went all funny i was very irregular anyway so vitex is sopposed to help for that ....oh i am so confused now this is starting to feel like a never ending battle........
thanks......
Moonkissed
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Re: To Moonkissed
February 23 2007, 5:25 AM
Determining if you have a hormonal imbalance is not always easy. The best way is to go to a doctor and get a test to see if you have the proper levels of hormone. Another option is to go to some of these sites below, take the tests, and see if you fit any of the profiles. If you believe that you may have a hormonal imbalance, then cut out the saw palmetto and fenugreek and only take the vitex if you have too much estrogen. By taking only the vitex, your hormonal levels will gradually level out to their expected proportions; than, you can discard the vitex and begin the saw palmetto and fenugreek again. If you feel your hormones are generally doing okay, then continue on the saw palmetto and fenugreek, and any other pytoestrogens herbs you like.
http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html
http://www.hormoneprofiles.com/progesteronetest.htm
http://www.altmednetwork.net/htest/test.html
February 20 2007 at 9:56 PM Anonymous (no login)
HI there -
I'm interested in your vitex programme - I wondered if you obtained your inch of growth with vitex alone - or whether you have been using massage, protein drink or other herbs as well?
Thanks for you time
Moonkissed
(Login Moonkissed)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 3:28 AM
Hey,
Yes, I believe that most of my growth may be attributed to vitex. The reason is that after I started taking it back in October, I stopped taking all other herbs, gelatin capsules, and pytoestrogen-rich foods because I suspected a hormonal imbalance, and I did not want the effects of the vitex to be counteracted by pytoestrogens. From then on to the present time, vitex is the only thing I have been taking. I only massage my smaller breast, because the larger one does not need massages as it keeps on growing on its own. Also, I apply a heating pad to the smaller breast for an hour each night. On occasion, I might drink a cup of fennel tea, but this is the extent of any other herbs I have taken in.
Vitex has been a good herb so far, but I am also researching another herb, because I know that I will need to break from it at least for a while to cleanse out the system.
Good luck with your routine!
rose
(no login)
Re: To Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 11:04 AM
i have been on vitex for about 9 weeks now but i am also on saw palmetto and fenugreek which i take only one tablet twice a day and the vitex i take the reccommended dosage so far i have not seen much growth only fullness i also massage with wild yam do you think i am taking too much to stop the vitex from working???
any help is appreciated...thanks
gingerD
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SENIOR MEMBER
Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 12:39 PM
Hi Moonkissed-Could you tell me since Vitex would you say the Pains/aches/tingles have increased or feel different from when you was on your herbs?
Iv only been on Vitex about 2 weeks, and i dont know if its me but i ache alot around the bust.
Thank you
Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Moonkissed
February 21 2007, 12:44 PM
I have a Vitex question too :-) When you stopped your herbs, did your boobs kinda deflate for a while? The reason I ask is I haven't done herbs in about a week and a half and my girls are starting to look sorry now, and I don't know if this will pass or not, or if I should start herbs back up........
Moonkissed
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Moonkissed
February 22 2007, 4:15 AM
Rose My advice would be to cut out the vitex entirely and stick with fenugreek and saw palmetto, unless you have a hormonal imbalance. Unlike herbs such as fenugreek, red clover, hops, fennel, licorice, etc., vitex is not a pytoestrogenic herb. What vitex does is stimulates the hypothalamus and pituitary gland to increase the luteinizing hormone. The luteinizing hormone reacts by sensing what hormone is lacking (such estrogen or progesterone), secretes out the needed hormone, or sends out signals to the body to produce the needed hormone. In most cases (like mine), the hormone needed is progesterone. If your hormones are as they should be, than vitex will make little or no difference for you in terms of breast growth.
gingerD When I was on other herbs, I did not experience any pains or tingles. Since I grew anyway, I just assumed this was the way my breasts expanded, without aches or pains. However, after dropping all herbs and using vitex, I experience brief shooting or throbbing pains in both breasts, typically more in my larger breast. Those pains started about three months after starting vitex, although as before, some minimal growth did occur prior to the pains starting. Now, I get them at least several times a week.
Henri After I stopped taking the other herbs, my breasts did not deflate. They stayed the same size. They didnt grow much, either, until after two months on the vitex, but I was fortunate not to lose any growth. I think one thing that helped was to keep on massaging while waiting for the vitex to work; that and trying to keep up a positive attitude about the wait, because vitex is a slow-working herb.
rose
(no login)
confused!!!
February 22 2007, 11:00 AM
thanks for the advice but how do i know if i have hormone imbalance...my periods were irregular and i did get pms notas bad as some of the others have reported but was moody and teary eyed for a few days....since being on vitex my periods were regular one month butwas late again last period....past few days have been having aches and pains in both breasts cant report growth but feel somthing is happening if i cut out vitex completly do you suggest wonderup because fenugreek and saw palmetto doesnt seem like its enough to make me grow.....i am 34 and have 4 children who i only breast fed 2 months or so.....any advice is appreciated.....
thanks
rose
(no login)
Re: To Moonkissed
February 22 2007, 11:19 AM
sorry i forgot to add i was on the pill for about 6 months but my periods went all funny i was very irregular anyway so vitex is sopposed to help for that ....oh i am so confused now this is starting to feel like a never ending battle........
thanks......
Moonkissed
(Login Moonkissed)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: To Moonkissed
February 23 2007, 5:25 AM
Determining if you have a hormonal imbalance is not always easy. The best way is to go to a doctor and get a test to see if you have the proper levels of hormone. Another option is to go to some of these sites below, take the tests, and see if you fit any of the profiles. If you believe that you may have a hormonal imbalance, then cut out the saw palmetto and fenugreek and only take the vitex if you have too much estrogen. By taking only the vitex, your hormonal levels will gradually level out to their expected proportions; than, you can discard the vitex and begin the saw palmetto and fenugreek again. If you feel your hormones are generally doing okay, then continue on the saw palmetto and fenugreek, and any other pytoestrogens herbs you like.
http://www.johnleemd.com/store/resource_hormonetest.html
http://www.hormoneprofiles.com/progesteronetest.htm
http://www.altmednetwork.net/htest/test.html