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WU and proteins
August 22 2006 at 3:57 PM Liz (no login)
At vortexhealth they say that a diet rich in proteins helps grow. Do you think I should add protein suplement to my rotine such as milkshakes or other stuff?
Epiphany
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Re: WU and proteins
August 22 2006, 8:08 PM
I am taking Wonderup and have made sure I have a high protein diet, but I'm not taking a protein supplement.
Wild Flower
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Re: WU and proteins
August 23 2006, 10:11 AM
I am the same. I take in more than the daily amount of protein I'm said to need, but I don't take a protein supplement.
Liz
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Re: WU and proteins
August 23 2006, 11:06 AM
Can you help me with your diet rich in proteins? What can I eat to hepl growing?
anailz
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Re: WU and proteins
August 29 2006, 5:35 PM
I've been on wonderup for the past 2 mths now and i've seen some growth but not much. I know its most likely because I dont get enough proten in my daily diet. Are there any suggestions to what herbs and supplements I should take??
Anonymous
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proteins
August 30 2006, 3:05 AM
Eggs are a great source of protein also nuts and seeds, fish chicken, meat...
Here is an extract i found on microfiltered whey.
"One form of protein, still known only to an elite group of atheletes and health seekers, is heads above the rest. It's called micro-filtered or ion-exchange whey. There's nothing like micro-filtered or ion-exchange whey to build muscle fast and bring about cell renewal. It improves skin, stregthens arteries and reshapes the whole body. MFW does wonderful things for your immune system too, thanks to it's active ingredients called subfractions. It's one of the few processed foods where technology has been used to enhance the health creating powers of nature"
Liz
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Re: WU and proteins
August 30 2006, 11:45 AM
I have high colesterol so I can not eat mutch eggs and I dont eat lot of meat. Shall I buy a Whey suplement?
Helen_N
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Protein
August 30 2006, 1:20 PM
Hi girls, hope everyone is doing very well. Thought I would pass the following to you, things I've read and found interesting, regarding protein and how much of it we need, as well as where we can find it, hope you'll find it helpful
In fact, it might be a good idea to include the following info in the General Ref. Page or Foods Page, I guess I could copy-paste it there a bit later anyway:
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* HOW MUCH PROTEIN DO I NEED, REALLY ?
------------------------------------------
Everyone's protein requirements differ, depending on a variety of factors including health, age, and size. Actually, the larger and younger you are, the more you need. To estimate your own personal daily recommended allowance, see chart below (info extracted from some nutrition books of mine):
age: 1-3 4-6 7-10 11-14 15-18 19-&over
pound
key 0.82 0.68 0.55 0.45 0.40 0.36
Find the pound key under your age group.
Multiply that number by your weight in pounds.
The result will be your daily protein requirements in grams.
E.g. You weigh 100 pounds and are 33 years old.
Your pound key is 0.36
0.36 x 100 = 36 g. -your daily protein requirement
An average minimum protein requirement is around 45 g. a day. That's 15 g. or about half an ounce per meal. Make sure you get enough at breakfast.
------------------------------------------------
* TYPES OF PROTEIN - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ?
------------------------------------------------
1. COMPLETE PROTEIN: provides the proper balance of 8 necessary amino acids that build tissues, and is found in foods of animal origin such as MEATS, POULTRY, SEAFOOD, EGGS, MILK, and CHEESE.
2. INCOMPLETE PROTEIN: lacks certain essential amino acids, and is not used efficiently when eaten alone. However, when it is combined with small amounts of animal-source protein, it becomes complete. It is found in SEEDS, NUTS, PEAS, GRAINS, and BEANS.
Mixing complete and incomplete proteins can give you better nutrition than either one alone. A good rice and beans dish with some cheese can be just as nourishing, less expensive, and lower in fat than a steak.
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* PROTEIN MYTHS
------------------
A lot of people seem to think that protein in non-fattening. This misconception has frustrated the determined dieter who forgoes bread but eats healthy portions of steak and wonders where the weight is coming from. The fact is:
1 g. protein = 4 calories
1 g. carbohydrate = 4 calories
1 g. fat = 9 calories
It is also thought that protein can burn up fat. This is another erroneous assumption that leaves dieters staring incomprehensibly at their scales. It just is not true that the more protein you eat the thinner you'll get. And, believe it or not, a slice of cheese pizza will give you more protein than 2 eggs or four slices of bacon or even a whole cup of milk. [Of course, if the taco or pizza are made with all sorts of additives, you're better off taking a cut in protein and sticking with the eggs.]
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* A PROTEIN DRINK RECIPE
------------------------
A good start toward healthy, glowing skin is a daily drink. It can be taken in place of any meal, but it makes an especially good breakfast:
6 oz. raw nonfat milk
1 tbsp nutritional yeast powder [lots of B vitamins]
3 tbsp acidophilus [promotes friendly bacteria]
1 tbsp granulated lecithin [breaks down bumps or cholesterol under skin]
2 tbsp protein powder
1/2-1 tbsp blackstrap molasses or honey
Carob powder, bananas, strawberries, or any fresh fruit flavouring
Mix in blender. [Add 3-4 ice cubes, if desired.]
~*~ Best Growing Boobie Wishes to everyone! ~*~
Helen xx
Epiphany
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Re: WU and proteins
August 30 2006, 8:06 PM
That's very interesting info Helen, thanks for that it's useful (where have you been, I noticed your absence for some time).
MK3
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HELEN
August 31 2006, 12:25 AM
I thought this was interesting to read.
Thanks for passing this along!
Take Care!
Helen_N
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August 31 2006, 3:11 PM
MK3 & Epiphany, pleasure to help if I can girls
Epiphany, sweet of you to ask I am still around, even though I haven't checked-in for quite a while. Things unfortunately are very hectic and stressful for me at the moment (phd finishing troubles), not much happening with my NBE for the last month, but I am still trying to hang in there 
I know NBE and high levels of stress just don't go together, so -as I've already written to Snowflake on another thread- I might consider a break until life settles...not sure yet, as I don't want to risk my progress so far, on the other hand I just know my stress is sabotaging my progress anyway...Either way, I am definitely going to be around whenever I can anyway!
Hope you're doing very well on WU Epiphany
Best Growing Boobie Wishes,
Helen xx
Jen
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Re: WU and proteins
August 31 2006, 4:33 PM
Helen - Thanks for the info! Very interesting. I thought the myths were interesting. I always thought that too. I always asumed the the best protein came from a steak - good to know there are other things that are equivolent.
Take care!
Helen_N
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Re: WU and proteins
August 31 2006, 6:15 PM
Yes Jennie, I know what you mean, same here
Especially this differentiation between complete/incomplete protein was new to me...
H. xx
August 22 2006 at 3:57 PM Liz (no login)
At vortexhealth they say that a diet rich in proteins helps grow. Do you think I should add protein suplement to my rotine such as milkshakes or other stuff?
Epiphany
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Re: WU and proteins
August 22 2006, 8:08 PM
I am taking Wonderup and have made sure I have a high protein diet, but I'm not taking a protein supplement.
Wild Flower
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Re: WU and proteins
August 23 2006, 10:11 AM
I am the same. I take in more than the daily amount of protein I'm said to need, but I don't take a protein supplement.
Liz
(no login)
Re: WU and proteins
August 23 2006, 11:06 AM
Can you help me with your diet rich in proteins? What can I eat to hepl growing?
anailz
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Re: WU and proteins
August 29 2006, 5:35 PM
I've been on wonderup for the past 2 mths now and i've seen some growth but not much. I know its most likely because I dont get enough proten in my daily diet. Are there any suggestions to what herbs and supplements I should take??
Anonymous
(no login)
proteins
August 30 2006, 3:05 AM
Eggs are a great source of protein also nuts and seeds, fish chicken, meat...
Here is an extract i found on microfiltered whey.
"One form of protein, still known only to an elite group of atheletes and health seekers, is heads above the rest. It's called micro-filtered or ion-exchange whey. There's nothing like micro-filtered or ion-exchange whey to build muscle fast and bring about cell renewal. It improves skin, stregthens arteries and reshapes the whole body. MFW does wonderful things for your immune system too, thanks to it's active ingredients called subfractions. It's one of the few processed foods where technology has been used to enhance the health creating powers of nature"
Liz
(no login)
Re: WU and proteins
August 30 2006, 11:45 AM
I have high colesterol so I can not eat mutch eggs and I dont eat lot of meat. Shall I buy a Whey suplement?
Helen_N
(Login Helen_N)
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Protein
August 30 2006, 1:20 PM
Hi girls, hope everyone is doing very well. Thought I would pass the following to you, things I've read and found interesting, regarding protein and how much of it we need, as well as where we can find it, hope you'll find it helpful
In fact, it might be a good idea to include the following info in the General Ref. Page or Foods Page, I guess I could copy-paste it there a bit later anyway:
------------------------------------------
* HOW MUCH PROTEIN DO I NEED, REALLY ?
------------------------------------------
Everyone's protein requirements differ, depending on a variety of factors including health, age, and size. Actually, the larger and younger you are, the more you need. To estimate your own personal daily recommended allowance, see chart below (info extracted from some nutrition books of mine):
age: 1-3 4-6 7-10 11-14 15-18 19-&over
pound
key 0.82 0.68 0.55 0.45 0.40 0.36
Find the pound key under your age group.
Multiply that number by your weight in pounds.
The result will be your daily protein requirements in grams.
E.g. You weigh 100 pounds and are 33 years old.
Your pound key is 0.36
0.36 x 100 = 36 g. -your daily protein requirement
An average minimum protein requirement is around 45 g. a day. That's 15 g. or about half an ounce per meal. Make sure you get enough at breakfast.
------------------------------------------------
* TYPES OF PROTEIN - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ?
------------------------------------------------
1. COMPLETE PROTEIN: provides the proper balance of 8 necessary amino acids that build tissues, and is found in foods of animal origin such as MEATS, POULTRY, SEAFOOD, EGGS, MILK, and CHEESE.
2. INCOMPLETE PROTEIN: lacks certain essential amino acids, and is not used efficiently when eaten alone. However, when it is combined with small amounts of animal-source protein, it becomes complete. It is found in SEEDS, NUTS, PEAS, GRAINS, and BEANS.
Mixing complete and incomplete proteins can give you better nutrition than either one alone. A good rice and beans dish with some cheese can be just as nourishing, less expensive, and lower in fat than a steak.
------------------
* PROTEIN MYTHS
------------------
A lot of people seem to think that protein in non-fattening. This misconception has frustrated the determined dieter who forgoes bread but eats healthy portions of steak and wonders where the weight is coming from. The fact is:
1 g. protein = 4 calories
1 g. carbohydrate = 4 calories
1 g. fat = 9 calories
It is also thought that protein can burn up fat. This is another erroneous assumption that leaves dieters staring incomprehensibly at their scales. It just is not true that the more protein you eat the thinner you'll get. And, believe it or not, a slice of cheese pizza will give you more protein than 2 eggs or four slices of bacon or even a whole cup of milk. [Of course, if the taco or pizza are made with all sorts of additives, you're better off taking a cut in protein and sticking with the eggs.]
------------------------
* A PROTEIN DRINK RECIPE
------------------------
A good start toward healthy, glowing skin is a daily drink. It can be taken in place of any meal, but it makes an especially good breakfast:
6 oz. raw nonfat milk
1 tbsp nutritional yeast powder [lots of B vitamins]
3 tbsp acidophilus [promotes friendly bacteria]
1 tbsp granulated lecithin [breaks down bumps or cholesterol under skin]
2 tbsp protein powder
1/2-1 tbsp blackstrap molasses or honey
Carob powder, bananas, strawberries, or any fresh fruit flavouring
Mix in blender. [Add 3-4 ice cubes, if desired.]
~*~ Best Growing Boobie Wishes to everyone! ~*~
Helen xx
Epiphany
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Re: WU and proteins
August 30 2006, 8:06 PM
That's very interesting info Helen, thanks for that it's useful (where have you been, I noticed your absence for some time).
MK3
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HELEN
August 31 2006, 12:25 AM
I thought this was interesting to read.
Thanks for passing this along!
Take Care!
Helen_N
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: )
August 31 2006, 3:11 PM
MK3 & Epiphany, pleasure to help if I can girls
Epiphany, sweet of you to ask
I am still around, even though I haven't checked-in for quite a while. Things unfortunately are very hectic and stressful for me at the moment (phd finishing troubles), not much happening with my NBE for the last month, but I am still trying to hang in there I know NBE and high levels of stress just don't go together, so -as I've already written to Snowflake on another thread- I might consider a break until life settles...not sure yet, as I don't want to risk my progress so far, on the other hand I just know my stress is sabotaging my progress anyway...Either way, I am definitely going to be around whenever I can anyway!
Hope you're doing very well on WU Epiphany
Best Growing Boobie Wishes,
Helen xx
Jen
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Re: WU and proteins
August 31 2006, 4:33 PM
Helen - Thanks for the info! Very interesting. I thought the myths were interesting. I always thought that too. I always asumed the the best protein came from a steak - good to know there are other things that are equivolent.
Take care!
Helen_N
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Re: WU and proteins
August 31 2006, 6:15 PM
Yes Jennie, I know what you mean, same here
Especially this differentiation between complete/incomplete protein was new to me...
H. xx