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Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007 at 12:03 AM Amanda (Login luvgrl)
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Ok, so I just asked a Nature day cusomer service rep how many miligrams of each herb are in a dropper of liquid.
There are 333 mg in each dropper.
Then you divide that by 5 herbs.
So i'm taking 3 droppers a day, Thats about a thousand milligrams of herbs a day.
Natureday is working very well for me but...
Isn't that a lot less milligrams than what everyone does/suggests in there customized programs?
Would I do better taking more milligrams of individual herbs?
Anonymous
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 5:41 AM
good question...i would be interested in hearing what the other ladies suggest...
Lynda
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Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 10:30 AM
Luvgrl,
It are probably extracts, which are more concentrated. Furthermore, it's working so great for you!
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 2:11 PM
no offense, but the post sounded a bit strange to me. Am I wrong or is the mg. proportion of herbs directly tied to concentration of herbs we are ingesting?
Henri
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 2:51 PM
I believe that the herbs are in extract form, this was covered near the beginning of all the post pages if you have time to browse. But I don't think it was ever figured out what the conversion is, so no one knows exactly how much the extracts work out to be.
I would say that if its working for you, then to stick with it rather then changing your program around too much.
Amanda
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 7:54 PM
Thanks guys, i forgot about that. That Natureday is extracts. I'm gonnaa do some research and try to find out conversions. I'll let you guys know!
LuvGrl
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Interesting
March 29 2007, 6:50 PM
Why Liquid Herbal Extracts?
Fresh and dried herbs processed in a liquid menstrum such as alcohol and water preserve the freshness and plants vitality at the time of processing. This medium of cold process extraction preserves and makes available the full range of an herbs medicinal constituent value. Liquid extracts are absorbed up to 40% better than capsules and/or tablets and act in the body much faster. Tasting the herbs also facilitates digestive action and the support of therapeutic function.
Why is alcohol used?
As a solvent, alcohol preserves the freshness, is nontoxic (in small doses), and provides much better extraction along with water than other extraction mediums (i.e. glycerin, vinegar, water) as teas and decoctions. It allows for complete digestion immediately in the stomach increasing absorption and therapeutic response.
How much alcohol is in a dose of extract and how can I remove it?
It has been reported that the amount of alcohol in a dose is equal or less than the amount of alcohol found in a ripe banana. By pouring hot water over your extract and stirring for 3 minutes, 90% of this alcohol will be removed. An alternate method, removing even more, is putting the dose in a small glass pot, cover slightly with water and simmer for one minute.
What is the shelf life of liquid herbal extracts?
The herbal industry self determines that shelf life can be for three years when stored properly, away from light, heat and air. Often extracts are good for many years beyond this!
How many milligrams of herb are in each dose?
The amount can vary from the herb used and the extract production methods, however a general rule of thumb is one 30 drop dose contains approximately 250 to 350 milligrams of herb.
What is the correct dosage for these herbal extracts?
The recommended dosages for these extracts are based on the weight of an 150 pound adult. To adjust to smaller or larger persons or for children, take the weight in pounds of the person over the average adult weight of 150 lbs....resulting in a fraction of the 150 lb adult dose.
Example:
A) For a 50 pound person 50/150 or 1/3 of the recommended dose.
B) For a 200 pound person 200/150 or 1&1/3 of the recommended dose.
Recommended Dose: 1 tsp.
Example A.........1/3rd tsp.
Example B.........1 1/3rd tsp.
I still can't find the comparison to dried herbs like if its 100mg in liquid extract form, how much would that be in dried form??
Amanda
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 30 2007, 12:47 AM
The nature day rep says:
"There are 333 mg. in the liquid and 700 mg in the pills, however that can't really tell you much since one is an extract and the other is a dried herb.
I would say in my own opinion that the liquid is about 6 times stronger then any pill out there."
What do you guys think??
Nature day says they are different because they are one of the only programs out there with the liquid extract, and thats much stronger, and better working than any pill.
rose
(Login rose34)
how much!!
April 2 2007, 9:34 PM
hi luvgirl
i have just ordered natureday and plan to use it after i give my programme another few weeks how do yu take a dropper is it 3 drops of fluid in the mouth or is it the whole dropper sorry if i am not making myself clear just a bit confused.... take care
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 2 2007, 11:13 PM
no...it isn't three drops. and you wouldn't just drop it in your mouth - you would gag if you did that! they call it three "droppers" - a dropper being the estimated amount of liquid that the dropper holds. Usually each bottle will hold less or more liquid in each dropper, so you should go by how many drops = a dropper. 1 dropper = 30 drops. So 3 droppers = 90 drops. Most people mix it in some kind of juice. Search the forum for Natureday, because there are other suggestions here on how to take it. The Natureday rep told me to do it all in one dose before bedtime.
Luvgrl
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Droppers
April 2 2007, 11:48 PM
Ya, no its not in single drops! Its exactly like Sophie said. I don't even count the drops. 30 drops is 1/3 of the entire dropper. lol... So I just take 270 drops, three entire droppers full every day. It would take forever to count that.
Anonymous
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 5:13 AM
wow! so you are doing 270 drops!? wow! maybe i should too! so you are doing 3 times the recommended amount? don't you feel hormonal and crazy?! when i first started on 30 a day i felt like a basketcase!
Luvgrl
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Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 5:35 AM
Ya I do!! But your only supposed to take that much for like 2 weeks, then "tone it down" ... I am already a pretty emotional person...so add some crazy in there and I can handle it. lol. I get really bloated, and I cry a lot when I do the three droppers, but in two weeks i'll start taking 2 droppers a day, then after like a month or so of that I'll probably tone it down to one a day. Boobs are worth it to me to be emotional over for sure!
Luvgrl
Anonymous
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 6:03 AM
haha! no....i'm a bit of a basketcase myself! i'm a pretty emotional person...and have a really sensitive system...so when i first started, i felt like i had the worst case of pms in the history of womankind. but things calmed down a bit. do you mind me asking what foods you eat? do you eat high protein - what sort of protein sources? i've sort of slacked with my protein cos i am lazy and don't like to cook. i just ate soy macaroni and cheese! high in carbs...but high in protein. probably not the best option though! ugh! i'm lazy about massage lately too....if boobs are one of my number one priorities, why am i slacking off?! ugh!
Luvgrl
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Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 4:38 PM
lol, Your a lot like me, i'd say. lol.
I don't really eat anything focused on breast enhancement... I go off and on... some weeks i'll do really bad and eat WHATEVER I want...then other weeks i'll hate it cause I gained 5lbs, and i'll eat really healthy... like a lot of salads, and then whatever my mom makes for dinner (i'm 19, still live at home,lol)... I don't really eat anything special... Just normal stuff... A bagel with butter and a banana for breakfast, a salad for lunch, then usually meat potatoes bread and more salad for dinner... maybe some ice cream after that. And I eat a lot of frozen mini tacos from trader joes... lol. I drink tons of water (try to anyways) I do occassionally have a cup of coffee in the mornings... I do drink a diet soda every other day or so. But ya, I don't really focus too much on what I eat. I'm just concerned about keeping my weight off for the most part. But ya... I hate being emotional. Last night my boyfriend called me and I was half asleep when he was getting into bed, and he got off the phone without telling me he loved me and I FREAKED out. lol. I called him back crying and was like "What is wrong with you! Why are you being so mean! I can't believe you would so that!!" LOL! I hate being so emotional! And I know Im doing it when I'm doing it but I cant help it!! Its horrible! haha. Oh well. He knows why, and he just starts laughing and says "oh my god..." lol. Then I eventually laugh about it too. its great to have someone support you even when you are crazy. But I just started taking 5-htp, and L-tyrosine to help my mood and everything, and so far so good!! I have problems with depression, and thats why i'm on it. Have you decided how many droppers your going to take?
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 5 2007, 1:05 AM
hmmm...i don't know...since you told me you take 270....i started taking 100! haha! i don't know...you have had such good results. but it sure does taste a hell of a lot worse when you take all of it like that! ugh! well...i don't know...i sort of want to increase my dose now. because they say 90 drops a day max....but you plan on staying on more than that and have had more success on natureday here than anyone else. i also add fennugreek from greenbush to my delicious "orange juice"....don't know if it has made a difference or not yet. i use it in massage and i think it helps more in that. so maybe i will take 180 and see. that's what i'm thinking.
i've had major problems with depression and anxiety....started when i was 17....was the worst when i was your age exactly, though it has gotten a lot better recently. my boyfriend thinks i'm nutty too...but we are both water signs...and we both fit our sun signs so well, so we are very watery and emotional people. i think he is pretty understanding! though my nbe is a secret until he actually feels them and notices a major change! then i will laugh and tell him my secret! haha! it's good to be emotional though....i like that i can cry at commercials and at oprah. one time i was watching vh1 and they had the story of the olson twins on, and i actually cried because i was , "so proud of them!" this was before m.k. had anorexia and was when they were little and cute...years ago....but that was how i realized i was pmsing that month! but herbs for me just heighten my emotions.
yeah...i was wondering if you were a big meat and potatoes person! i eat mostly vegetarian out of laziness mostly. i eat a lot of soy and fish though (sardines out of a can?) that i douse in cayenne pepper. i eat a lot of dairy. i haven't gained any weight really. i eat really fattening stuff, and seem to lose weight when i do that rather than gain. but i do feel more bloated after my first month on nbe. i've gained about half an inch i think. we'll see when i get my period again. i'm going to try to eat healthier though. i was doing really good, but i ate donuts and ramen today!
March 28 2007 at 12:03 AM Amanda (Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Ok, so I just asked a Nature day cusomer service rep how many miligrams of each herb are in a dropper of liquid.
There are 333 mg in each dropper.
Then you divide that by 5 herbs.
So i'm taking 3 droppers a day, Thats about a thousand milligrams of herbs a day.
Natureday is working very well for me but...
Isn't that a lot less milligrams than what everyone does/suggests in there customized programs?
Would I do better taking more milligrams of individual herbs?
Anonymous
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 5:41 AM
good question...i would be interested in hearing what the other ladies suggest...
Lynda
(login Lynda)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 10:30 AM
Luvgrl,
It are probably extracts, which are more concentrated. Furthermore, it's working so great for you!
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 2:11 PM
no offense, but the post sounded a bit strange to me. Am I wrong or is the mg. proportion of herbs directly tied to concentration of herbs we are ingesting?
Henri
(Login henriettahippo)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 2:51 PM
I believe that the herbs are in extract form, this was covered near the beginning of all the post pages if you have time to browse. But I don't think it was ever figured out what the conversion is, so no one knows exactly how much the extracts work out to be.
I would say that if its working for you, then to stick with it rather then changing your program around too much.
Amanda
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 28 2007, 7:54 PM
Thanks guys, i forgot about that. That Natureday is extracts. I'm gonnaa do some research and try to find out conversions. I'll let you guys know!
LuvGrl
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Interesting
March 29 2007, 6:50 PM
Why Liquid Herbal Extracts?
Fresh and dried herbs processed in a liquid menstrum such as alcohol and water preserve the freshness and plants vitality at the time of processing. This medium of cold process extraction preserves and makes available the full range of an herbs medicinal constituent value. Liquid extracts are absorbed up to 40% better than capsules and/or tablets and act in the body much faster. Tasting the herbs also facilitates digestive action and the support of therapeutic function.
Why is alcohol used?
As a solvent, alcohol preserves the freshness, is nontoxic (in small doses), and provides much better extraction along with water than other extraction mediums (i.e. glycerin, vinegar, water) as teas and decoctions. It allows for complete digestion immediately in the stomach increasing absorption and therapeutic response.
How much alcohol is in a dose of extract and how can I remove it?
It has been reported that the amount of alcohol in a dose is equal or less than the amount of alcohol found in a ripe banana. By pouring hot water over your extract and stirring for 3 minutes, 90% of this alcohol will be removed. An alternate method, removing even more, is putting the dose in a small glass pot, cover slightly with water and simmer for one minute.
What is the shelf life of liquid herbal extracts?
The herbal industry self determines that shelf life can be for three years when stored properly, away from light, heat and air. Often extracts are good for many years beyond this!
How many milligrams of herb are in each dose?
The amount can vary from the herb used and the extract production methods, however a general rule of thumb is one 30 drop dose contains approximately 250 to 350 milligrams of herb.
What is the correct dosage for these herbal extracts?
The recommended dosages for these extracts are based on the weight of an 150 pound adult. To adjust to smaller or larger persons or for children, take the weight in pounds of the person over the average adult weight of 150 lbs....resulting in a fraction of the 150 lb adult dose.
Example:
A) For a 50 pound person 50/150 or 1/3 of the recommended dose.
B) For a 200 pound person 200/150 or 1&1/3 of the recommended dose.
Recommended Dose: 1 tsp.
Example A.........1/3rd tsp.
Example B.........1 1/3rd tsp.
I still can't find the comparison to dried herbs like if its 100mg in liquid extract form, how much would that be in dried form??
Amanda
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
March 30 2007, 12:47 AM
The nature day rep says:
"There are 333 mg. in the liquid and 700 mg in the pills, however that can't really tell you much since one is an extract and the other is a dried herb.
I would say in my own opinion that the liquid is about 6 times stronger then any pill out there."
What do you guys think??
Nature day says they are different because they are one of the only programs out there with the liquid extract, and thats much stronger, and better working than any pill.
rose
(Login rose34)
how much!!
April 2 2007, 9:34 PM
hi luvgirl
i have just ordered natureday and plan to use it after i give my programme another few weeks how do yu take a dropper is it 3 drops of fluid in the mouth or is it the whole dropper sorry if i am not making myself clear just a bit confused.... take care
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 2 2007, 11:13 PM
no...it isn't three drops. and you wouldn't just drop it in your mouth - you would gag if you did that! they call it three "droppers" - a dropper being the estimated amount of liquid that the dropper holds. Usually each bottle will hold less or more liquid in each dropper, so you should go by how many drops = a dropper. 1 dropper = 30 drops. So 3 droppers = 90 drops. Most people mix it in some kind of juice. Search the forum for Natureday, because there are other suggestions here on how to take it. The Natureday rep told me to do it all in one dose before bedtime.
Luvgrl
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Droppers
April 2 2007, 11:48 PM
Ya, no its not in single drops! Its exactly like Sophie said. I don't even count the drops. 30 drops is 1/3 of the entire dropper. lol... So I just take 270 drops, three entire droppers full every day. It would take forever to count that.
Anonymous
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 5:13 AM
wow! so you are doing 270 drops!? wow! maybe i should too! so you are doing 3 times the recommended amount? don't you feel hormonal and crazy?! when i first started on 30 a day i felt like a basketcase!
Luvgrl
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 5:35 AM
Ya I do!! But your only supposed to take that much for like 2 weeks, then "tone it down" ... I am already a pretty emotional person...so add some crazy in there and I can handle it. lol. I get really bloated, and I cry a lot when I do the three droppers, but in two weeks i'll start taking 2 droppers a day, then after like a month or so of that I'll probably tone it down to one a day. Boobs are worth it to me to be emotional over for sure!
Luvgrl
Anonymous
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 6:03 AM
haha! no....i'm a bit of a basketcase myself! i'm a pretty emotional person...and have a really sensitive system...so when i first started, i felt like i had the worst case of pms in the history of womankind. but things calmed down a bit. do you mind me asking what foods you eat? do you eat high protein - what sort of protein sources? i've sort of slacked with my protein cos i am lazy and don't like to cook. i just ate soy macaroni and cheese! high in carbs...but high in protein. probably not the best option though! ugh! i'm lazy about massage lately too....if boobs are one of my number one priorities, why am i slacking off?! ugh!
Luvgrl
(Login luvgrl)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 3 2007, 4:38 PM
lol, Your a lot like me, i'd say. lol.
I don't really eat anything focused on breast enhancement... I go off and on... some weeks i'll do really bad and eat WHATEVER I want...then other weeks i'll hate it cause I gained 5lbs, and i'll eat really healthy... like a lot of salads, and then whatever my mom makes for dinner (i'm 19, still live at home,lol)... I don't really eat anything special... Just normal stuff... A bagel with butter and a banana for breakfast, a salad for lunch, then usually meat potatoes bread and more salad for dinner... maybe some ice cream after that. And I eat a lot of frozen mini tacos from trader joes... lol. I drink tons of water (try to anyways) I do occassionally have a cup of coffee in the mornings... I do drink a diet soda every other day or so. But ya, I don't really focus too much on what I eat. I'm just concerned about keeping my weight off for the most part. But ya... I hate being emotional. Last night my boyfriend called me and I was half asleep when he was getting into bed, and he got off the phone without telling me he loved me and I FREAKED out. lol. I called him back crying and was like "What is wrong with you! Why are you being so mean! I can't believe you would so that!!" LOL! I hate being so emotional! And I know Im doing it when I'm doing it but I cant help it!! Its horrible! haha. Oh well. He knows why, and he just starts laughing and says "oh my god..." lol. Then I eventually laugh about it too. its great to have someone support you even when you are crazy. But I just started taking 5-htp, and L-tyrosine to help my mood and everything, and so far so good!! I have problems with depression, and thats why i'm on it. Have you decided how many droppers your going to take?
sophie
(Login sophie9)
Re: Nature Day Milligrams!
April 5 2007, 1:05 AM
hmmm...i don't know...since you told me you take 270....i started taking 100! haha! i don't know...you have had such good results. but it sure does taste a hell of a lot worse when you take all of it like that! ugh! well...i don't know...i sort of want to increase my dose now. because they say 90 drops a day max....but you plan on staying on more than that and have had more success on natureday here than anyone else. i also add fennugreek from greenbush to my delicious "orange juice"....don't know if it has made a difference or not yet. i use it in massage and i think it helps more in that. so maybe i will take 180 and see. that's what i'm thinking.
i've had major problems with depression and anxiety....started when i was 17....was the worst when i was your age exactly, though it has gotten a lot better recently. my boyfriend thinks i'm nutty too...but we are both water signs...and we both fit our sun signs so well, so we are very watery and emotional people. i think he is pretty understanding! though my nbe is a secret until he actually feels them and notices a major change! then i will laugh and tell him my secret! haha! it's good to be emotional though....i like that i can cry at commercials and at oprah. one time i was watching vh1 and they had the story of the olson twins on, and i actually cried because i was , "so proud of them!" this was before m.k. had anorexia and was when they were little and cute...years ago....but that was how i realized i was pmsing that month! but herbs for me just heighten my emotions.
yeah...i was wondering if you were a big meat and potatoes person! i eat mostly vegetarian out of laziness mostly. i eat a lot of soy and fish though (sardines out of a can?) that i douse in cayenne pepper. i eat a lot of dairy. i haven't gained any weight really. i eat really fattening stuff, and seem to lose weight when i do that rather than gain. but i do feel more bloated after my first month on nbe. i've gained about half an inch i think. we'll see when i get my period again. i'm going to try to eat healthier though. i was doing really good, but i ate donuts and ramen today!