08-03-2016, 14:31
14 years old
May 19 2007 at 6:05 AM Born Again Sheep (no login)
hi 14 years old...
if i take l-tyrosine, or prostate enlargment herbs..or any herbs to make my flat boobs bigger...could it affect my growth process...in any way..b/c i took 2 days of l-tyrosine....and i haven't taken any prostate enlargement herbs..and if i do like how would it affect my growth process cause i would like to know..cause i personally think it wouldn't...so i need sum advice...plzzz...i appreciate ur comments..thanxx
sandy
(Login sandy111)
SENIOR MEMBER
Don't
May 19 2007, 8:22 AM
Hi.Don't take anything of that plzzz..What u are refering to is saw palmetto and it blocks certain hormones that u still need..what u can do is check the food list on the main page that states the healthy food u can eat to promote growth and u can also massage like twice a day with olive oil..this will help u until u are old enough to take herbs or any other program.u will see results if u keep up with this,but it takes time..even the things we are doing takes a loooot of time ,so eat boobie friendly food and massage..it will need time but it works
Good luck
Big Mama Sheep
(no login)
Listen sweetie...
May 19 2007, 8:30 AM
I hadn't even started to develop at age 14. What is it with girls these days? You need some patience to let your body do it's job. It is never good to interfere with your own growth process using hormone altering herbs. If you still think you are under-developed when you are in your early twenties, THEN you might consider taking these herbal supplements. Please don't take anything right now, or you might damage your natural growth. These things take time you know. You will probably just have to wait a little and then your breasts will grow without the aid of herbs or pills.
Moon
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SENIOR MEMBER
Re: 14 years old
May 19 2007, 10:30 AM
I have an urge to send you to your room. NBE is not for kids. Your boobs aren't finished growing till earliest 18, in some cases up to 25. For many girls the development doesn't even start at 14 yet.
Young girls should stop being so eager to swallow these ideas they are fed by their peers that they should have boobs at the age of 10. Nature didn't mean for you to have them until well into the puberty.
I'm sorry, but whether or not herbs could cause harm at that age isn't a matter of what you or anyone personally thinks, but a matter of facts and the answer is yes, it's very likely that they would.
Having said that, once one is old enoguh and decides to try NBE, no one can tell you what will make you grow, cause it's different for everyone.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on May 19, 2007 5:46 PM
cutevelvet
(Login cutevelvet)
Re: 14 years old
May 19 2007, 12:58 PM
here here moon im with ya on that one!
Born Again Sheep
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question
May 20 2007, 10:46 AM
so how cum like sum teenagers that are like 13,12,11, 14...etc...could take birth control pills w/ loads of estrogen and progesterone and it doesn't interfere with their growth process???..not tryin to be rude..j/w
Born Again Sheep
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thank you!!!
May 20 2007, 10:48 AM
thank you'll so much for ur advice!!!....if it wasn't for you'll i would have taken em =(((
Angry Sheep
(no login)
Re: 14 years old
May 20 2007, 3:36 PM
QUOTE:
so how cum like sum teenagers that are like 13,12,11, 14...etc...could take birth control pills w/ loads of estrogen and progesterone and it doesn't interfere with their growth process???..not tryin to be rude..j/w
/QUOTE
ANSWER:
Simply because estrogen IS what is supposed to regulate the development during puberty anyway. If you take phytoestrogens during the time of life when your own body's estrogen is working non stop to turn you into an adult woman, the phytoestrogens will stick to your estrogen receptors INSTEAD OF THE REAL HORMONES! Estrogen is many many times stronger than any phytoestrogen which means that your body will lose out. All the real estrogen that you are producing won't get a chance in hell to do it's job if you interfere with plant hormones. Birth Control is different because those hormones are of similar strenght as the body's own ones.
Kids shouldn't mess with mother nature.
kiana
(Login kiana2)
Re: 14 years old
May 21 2007, 11:39 AM
Bull**** sorry to say but BCP will totally mess up a developing girls hormones also. They are synthetic and completely foriegn to our natural female hormonal system. I don't know how you can possibly say that these synthetic hormones are better and less harmful than natural plant and herb phytoestrogens which have been used for centuries by many tribal and indiginous cultures. The BCP is manmade and has been around for what 35 years or so. Do we really know how this s*** affects our natural intelligent hormonal system. I am still trying to undo the havoc that the pill has wrecked on my body. If used with the guidance of a qualified herbalist it is possible for a 14 year old to use some of the herbs for NBE. My advice is to consult a herbalist- they will be able to tell you which herbs are ok for you and the right quantities to use.
Halome
(Login Halome)
SENIOR MEMBER
BCP may have messed up yours..
May 21 2007, 1:56 PM
But uh, I was put on BCP when I turned 15 to help balance out my hormones BECAUSE my OWN body was screwing me up. They say you should be close to a regular 28 day cycle after 2 years of getting your period (give or take a few days), but there are people like me who after 3-4 years of having their period we were going from having our period every 2 weeks to every 8 weeks and anything and everything in between. I tell you, being 15 years old and bleeding every other week is not the greatest self esteem builder, especially if you're an athlete like I was and you never knew if you'd start bleeding in the middle of a track meet.
Try to watch your choice of words, you swear and say things like what you're saying is the cold hard truth and we're all wrong, but where you had a bad experience with something, someone else had a good one. Please try to stay mindful of that.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: 14 years old
May 21 2007, 6:44 PM
Besides, there are many different kinds of BCP that contain different forms of hormones and they have been improved a lot in the last descades. Also nothing works the same for everyone. I too have gone on BCP aged 15 and it solved some really nasty problems and improved my life grately. You can't claim something with that certainiy with having only yourself as an example, and even with having many examples, you'd pretty much have to have all the examples talk in your favor. Aside from that, I've heard from herbalists who are so closed minded and plain dumb that they claimed with certainity NBE is impossible. No matter how long in your profession, you can't claim that something is impossible just because you've never seen it, that is utter stupidity and a stupid prefessional can screw you up as much or more as a rational laic.
Fluffy Sheep
(no login)
Think before you post!
May 21 2007, 7:57 PM
Kiana - You have no idea what you are talking about.
Is it really possible for a 14 year old to use herbs for NBE if used with the guidance of a qualified herbalist? I don't think so. Your statement is irresponsible. You have no right to instruct minors to mess up their hormones. NONE OF US here have a right to advice minors to use NBE products. Guess why? Because this website could get in legal trouble if we did. Children are not to play with these herbs, capiche?
Dancing Sheep
(Login kiana2)
Re: 14 years old
May 22 2007, 3:02 AM
It is absurd that you can on one hand advocate the use of BCP for minors and at the same time be totally against using natural hormone balancing herbs that can be very effective. Because it is a pharmacuetical and so widely accepted makes it ok to give these strong synthetic hormones to our still developing children. How much do you really know about BCP or is it ok just because a 'doctor' says it is cause they know everything right? Do some reading on BCP and the proliferation of red blood vessels in the uterous and the brain. Why is it that so many woman get blinding headaches and minegrains each month when coming off the estrogen and progesterone? Apart from not being able to provide birth control, herbs as far as NBE and hormone regualtion goes are much safer and much easier to use in diluted doses and are less likely to do irrepairable damage. Some of these herbs i have used while breastfeeding my children to increase milk supply. Some of these herbs have been used historically by young women for the exact purpose that we are using them. I am not saying that she should blindly take whatever is recomended on this forum but to say that a 14year old can absolutely NOT take any herb or natural substance that would be in favour of NBE would be ridiculous.
Fluffy Sheep
(no login)
Re: 14 years old
May 22 2007, 5:50 PM
Wrong again. Nowhere in my post did I advocate the use of BCP for minors. In fact I don't think 14 year olds should use birth control either simply because they have no business having sex in the first place. They are KIDS. Neither sex, BCP or NBE are for 14 year olds.
All I did was try to explain that there is a difference between synthetic hormones and phytoestrogens.
May 19 2007 at 6:05 AM Born Again Sheep (no login)
hi 14 years old...
if i take l-tyrosine, or prostate enlargment herbs..or any herbs to make my flat boobs bigger...could it affect my growth process...in any way..b/c i took 2 days of l-tyrosine....and i haven't taken any prostate enlargement herbs..and if i do like how would it affect my growth process cause i would like to know..cause i personally think it wouldn't...so i need sum advice...plzzz...i appreciate ur comments..thanxx
sandy
(Login sandy111)
SENIOR MEMBER
Don't
May 19 2007, 8:22 AM
Hi.Don't take anything of that plzzz..What u are refering to is saw palmetto and it blocks certain hormones that u still need..what u can do is check the food list on the main page that states the healthy food u can eat to promote growth and u can also massage like twice a day with olive oil..this will help u until u are old enough to take herbs or any other program.u will see results if u keep up with this,but it takes time..even the things we are doing takes a loooot of time ,so eat boobie friendly food and massage..it will need time but it works
Good luck
Big Mama Sheep
(no login)
Listen sweetie...
May 19 2007, 8:30 AM
I hadn't even started to develop at age 14. What is it with girls these days? You need some patience to let your body do it's job. It is never good to interfere with your own growth process using hormone altering herbs. If you still think you are under-developed when you are in your early twenties, THEN you might consider taking these herbal supplements. Please don't take anything right now, or you might damage your natural growth. These things take time you know. You will probably just have to wait a little and then your breasts will grow without the aid of herbs or pills.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: 14 years old
May 19 2007, 10:30 AM
I have an urge to send you to your room. NBE is not for kids. Your boobs aren't finished growing till earliest 18, in some cases up to 25. For many girls the development doesn't even start at 14 yet.
Young girls should stop being so eager to swallow these ideas they are fed by their peers that they should have boobs at the age of 10. Nature didn't mean for you to have them until well into the puberty.
I'm sorry, but whether or not herbs could cause harm at that age isn't a matter of what you or anyone personally thinks, but a matter of facts and the answer is yes, it's very likely that they would.
Having said that, once one is old enoguh and decides to try NBE, no one can tell you what will make you grow, cause it's different for everyone.
This message has been edited by -Moon- on May 19, 2007 5:46 PM
cutevelvet
(Login cutevelvet)
Re: 14 years old
May 19 2007, 12:58 PM
here here moon im with ya on that one!
Born Again Sheep
(no login)
question
May 20 2007, 10:46 AM
so how cum like sum teenagers that are like 13,12,11, 14...etc...could take birth control pills w/ loads of estrogen and progesterone and it doesn't interfere with their growth process???..not tryin to be rude..j/w
Born Again Sheep
(no login)
thank you!!!
May 20 2007, 10:48 AM
thank you'll so much for ur advice!!!....if it wasn't for you'll i would have taken em =(((
Angry Sheep
(no login)
Re: 14 years old
May 20 2007, 3:36 PM
QUOTE:
so how cum like sum teenagers that are like 13,12,11, 14...etc...could take birth control pills w/ loads of estrogen and progesterone and it doesn't interfere with their growth process???..not tryin to be rude..j/w
/QUOTE
ANSWER:
Simply because estrogen IS what is supposed to regulate the development during puberty anyway. If you take phytoestrogens during the time of life when your own body's estrogen is working non stop to turn you into an adult woman, the phytoestrogens will stick to your estrogen receptors INSTEAD OF THE REAL HORMONES! Estrogen is many many times stronger than any phytoestrogen which means that your body will lose out. All the real estrogen that you are producing won't get a chance in hell to do it's job if you interfere with plant hormones. Birth Control is different because those hormones are of similar strenght as the body's own ones.
Kids shouldn't mess with mother nature.
kiana
(Login kiana2)
Re: 14 years old
May 21 2007, 11:39 AM
Bull**** sorry to say but BCP will totally mess up a developing girls hormones also. They are synthetic and completely foriegn to our natural female hormonal system. I don't know how you can possibly say that these synthetic hormones are better and less harmful than natural plant and herb phytoestrogens which have been used for centuries by many tribal and indiginous cultures. The BCP is manmade and has been around for what 35 years or so. Do we really know how this s*** affects our natural intelligent hormonal system. I am still trying to undo the havoc that the pill has wrecked on my body. If used with the guidance of a qualified herbalist it is possible for a 14 year old to use some of the herbs for NBE. My advice is to consult a herbalist- they will be able to tell you which herbs are ok for you and the right quantities to use.
Halome
(Login Halome)
SENIOR MEMBER
BCP may have messed up yours..
May 21 2007, 1:56 PM
But uh, I was put on BCP when I turned 15 to help balance out my hormones BECAUSE my OWN body was screwing me up. They say you should be close to a regular 28 day cycle after 2 years of getting your period (give or take a few days), but there are people like me who after 3-4 years of having their period we were going from having our period every 2 weeks to every 8 weeks and anything and everything in between. I tell you, being 15 years old and bleeding every other week is not the greatest self esteem builder, especially if you're an athlete like I was and you never knew if you'd start bleeding in the middle of a track meet.
Try to watch your choice of words, you swear and say things like what you're saying is the cold hard truth and we're all wrong, but where you had a bad experience with something, someone else had a good one. Please try to stay mindful of that.
Moon
(Login -Moon-)
SENIOR MEMBER
Re: 14 years old
May 21 2007, 6:44 PM
Besides, there are many different kinds of BCP that contain different forms of hormones and they have been improved a lot in the last descades. Also nothing works the same for everyone. I too have gone on BCP aged 15 and it solved some really nasty problems and improved my life grately. You can't claim something with that certainiy with having only yourself as an example, and even with having many examples, you'd pretty much have to have all the examples talk in your favor. Aside from that, I've heard from herbalists who are so closed minded and plain dumb that they claimed with certainity NBE is impossible. No matter how long in your profession, you can't claim that something is impossible just because you've never seen it, that is utter stupidity and a stupid prefessional can screw you up as much or more as a rational laic.
Fluffy Sheep
(no login)
Think before you post!
May 21 2007, 7:57 PM
Kiana - You have no idea what you are talking about.
Is it really possible for a 14 year old to use herbs for NBE if used with the guidance of a qualified herbalist? I don't think so. Your statement is irresponsible. You have no right to instruct minors to mess up their hormones. NONE OF US here have a right to advice minors to use NBE products. Guess why? Because this website could get in legal trouble if we did. Children are not to play with these herbs, capiche?
Dancing Sheep
(Login kiana2)
Re: 14 years old
May 22 2007, 3:02 AM
It is absurd that you can on one hand advocate the use of BCP for minors and at the same time be totally against using natural hormone balancing herbs that can be very effective. Because it is a pharmacuetical and so widely accepted makes it ok to give these strong synthetic hormones to our still developing children. How much do you really know about BCP or is it ok just because a 'doctor' says it is cause they know everything right? Do some reading on BCP and the proliferation of red blood vessels in the uterous and the brain. Why is it that so many woman get blinding headaches and minegrains each month when coming off the estrogen and progesterone? Apart from not being able to provide birth control, herbs as far as NBE and hormone regualtion goes are much safer and much easier to use in diluted doses and are less likely to do irrepairable damage. Some of these herbs i have used while breastfeeding my children to increase milk supply. Some of these herbs have been used historically by young women for the exact purpose that we are using them. I am not saying that she should blindly take whatever is recomended on this forum but to say that a 14year old can absolutely NOT take any herb or natural substance that would be in favour of NBE would be ridiculous.
Fluffy Sheep
(no login)
Re: 14 years old
May 22 2007, 5:50 PM
Wrong again. Nowhere in my post did I advocate the use of BCP for minors. In fact I don't think 14 year olds should use birth control either simply because they have no business having sex in the first place. They are KIDS. Neither sex, BCP or NBE are for 14 year olds.
All I did was try to explain that there is a difference between synthetic hormones and phytoestrogens.