28-04-2016, 23:56
(28-04-2016, 23:47)ellacraig Wrote:(28-04-2016, 21:46)anyover88 Wrote:(28-04-2016, 01:25)ellacraig Wrote: One minute this herb is good for this hormone and next minute turns out it's not and so forth...
Ie fenugreek is cancer protective next minute it's promoting.....
Pc cream is the best thing since sliced bread and supplies safe progesterone OH WAIT no it builds up in the body and takes months to leave and excess progesterone also puts you at risk for the big C...
Best thing... Use adaptogens.. Raise support or balance all hormones not bugger round with raising one then risk unbalancing the rest. Wish I'd taken that approach not mess myself up with said "safe phytoestrogens". ....
The "one minute" thing is what it looks like to onlookers, but that's not the case. There are different studies using different methodologies, and this is why it's important to also look at any factors that may have affected the results of the specific study and to look at them as a whole rather than a back and forth between one saying one thing and another saying another. One study is not a monolith that stands above the others. this is why meta reviews are good, and anyone can find these on the online public medical journals.
that idea about progesterone cream building up is nonsense though, and it's unfortunate that alternative health practitioners who advocated the use of progesterone spread this kind of misinformation. Bioidentical USP progesterone has a half life of 14 hours, just like the progesterone your body makes because they are exactly the same, hence bioidentical.
HOWEVER, progestogens, artificial and sometimes patented progesterone analogues, are the ones that build up, and those are the ones found in hormonal birth control preparations. There seems to have been some confusion between the progesterone in progesterone cream and the progestogens in the pharmaceutical drugs. there is a major difference between the two. Your body takes care of bioidentical quite easily while progestogens vary in their effect and half-life.
Of course it's good to look before you leap, but I don't think anyone should shy away from using herbals because they are afraid of the unknown or one lone study says something scary about a concentrated, isolated compound in vitro.
I can understand not wanting to use herbals though, it can be frustrating to try one thing after another and getting side effects or not getting the results you want, and then see all the studies contradicting each other. Perfectly understandable to just trust what you think you need first!
because when it comes down to it, it's not about what some study says, but about how we feel and the results and effects we get from it, and that's why we have this forum to talk about it
Hi. Ok so this is the pc cream I have
http://www.vivacehealth.co.nz/serenity-creams.html
This claims to be bio identical.
Can you link me to a study mentioning the 14hr half life? Much appreciated.
Mind you with that aside I do wake up unable to breath nearly EVERY time I used this pc cream for more than a day...
What that means for me (maybe I don't need it) .. That and I hVe read this is in fact a side effect I'm reluctant to use it VERY MUCH SOO
But thanks for clearing up the d3I actually forgot to take mine todY. Funny thing is, I live by the beach, plenty of sun exposure and yet my D3 test STILL was deficient!
As that is a topical product it actually CAN build up... but only in fatty tissue, and only if you apply it to a high subcutaneous fat area, like your hips, butt, or breasts. Apply it to your wrists, ankles, etc, like you're supposed to, with low subcutaneous fat and quick access to your bloodstream and build up in fat tissue is not a concern because the bloodstream does not deliver such large doses of progesterone directly into any single fatty tissue unlike a topical directly on that fatty tissue would. Some of it will still end up delivered to fatty tissues, of course, but it'll be thinly spread throughout all tissues, and there won't be any build up at all.