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Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder?
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Ok so here is an update:

I made a new cream and I have some advice if you want to make it yourself.

This time I bought a body butter (cheapy) from the drugstore. That doesn't really have much in it besides shea butter. And I also bought nutmeg extract 10:1 (voluplus), and also bought macademia oil
Here is the scientific paper for Voluplus: http://asia.in-cosmetics.com/__novadocuments/12507

I added this all together:
- 30 grams of the nutmeg extract (voluplus)
- 15 ml Macademia oil (in voluplus they use this as a carrier)
- 30 grams zhi mu extract 10:1 (volufiline)
- 250 gram of shea butter body cream (I saw they used Shea butter in Voluplus, not as a carrier I believe, but I just thought why not go with that too)

I had to mix every ingredient one by one slowly, and stirred about 10 min after adding each one.

And this has been working great! I really like it both of them. It is very slowly, so nothing overnight, very gradual results, but there for sure. I can pinch more every week.
This cream is really dark though, so no tops showing any cleavage this summer. I would not use this if you have a partner.

Do be careful about some ingredient in lotions: lotus extract and L-Carnitine counteract the effects. Also retinol and tretinion are stuff that could induce apoptosis of adipose tissue, we don't want that Big Grin

There is one thing I have to share. I use a dermaroller every month on my breast (1.5mm). This increases the amount of fibroblasts in the skin. The fibroblasts are the cells in these studies (mouse fibroblasts) that are able to differentiate into adipocytes (fat cells).
So you want a lot of fibroblasts in your skin!

I have been dermarolling for more than a year, so I am guessing I have had a lot of fibroblasts present.
Dermarollers are about 6 euro on ebay, look up on youtube how to use them, it is super easy and effective.

So in short: the fibroblasts change their cell identity to become fat cells.
If you don't have fibroblasts to begin with, well, then you most likely you won't have much fatty tissue conversion.



Also would like to point out about DSMO.
DSMO is one of the best carriers there is in medicine/cosmetic. 
If you want good absorptoin, use DSMO in your mixture, start at 5% and you can increase to 10%
But warning, this stuff can be hard on the skin for some, so very important to measure this correctly!!!
Weigh with a scale,or use a dropler, no tablespoons here Tongue

I think I will buy DSMO eventually. You can buy it on Amazon everywhere I saw.

I hope this helps Smile

Not using the Aloe Vera anymore, just playing around with some stuff.
Actually found out about 5 ingredients in total with scientific data to turn fibroblasts into adipocytes. Maybe I should start a thread on it, because some are really effective.

lots of luck loves! <3
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Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by growthspurt - 26-11-2015, 05:26
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 19-04-2017, 19:05
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 20-04-2017, 18:09
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by wagon train - 21-04-2017, 02:31
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by bettie32 - 21-04-2017, 15:56
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by newme17 - 09-05-2017, 22:41
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 23-04-2017, 15:26
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by newme17 - 09-05-2017, 22:44
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 20-05-2017, 21:09
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by newme17 - 21-05-2017, 19:30
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 22-05-2017, 17:58
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 30-04-2017, 13:03
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by sweetorange - 30-04-2017, 20:56
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by wagon train - 08-05-2017, 19:25
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by bettie32 - 30-04-2017, 14:05
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 20-05-2017, 21:05
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Bubbies - 08-05-2017, 12:24
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by wagon train - 09-05-2017, 20:36
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 20-05-2017, 21:31
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 20-05-2017, 21:24
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by newme17 - 23-05-2017, 03:20
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Miss Mad Scientist - 23-05-2017, 06:42
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by wagon train - 10-07-2017, 22:10
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by IDreamofPear - 15-07-2017, 16:03
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by hannah - 16-07-2017, 13:27
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by bettie32 - 16-07-2017, 13:55
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by BeautifulBambi - 19-07-2017, 07:42
RE: Has anyone ever tried Aguaje pills/powder or Zhi Mu powder? - by Gouldian92 - 07-09-2017, 14:47
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