(05-06-2017, 02:46)EllaC Wrote: Thats way to long to read so il do so later!
In.summary I asked a question. I did NOT insult nor try to insult anyone's culture/beauty or otherwise . These people on the boards who have known me for years know i do NOT get caught up in debates nor insult anyone.
My question was " worldwide maps show the cultures where soy , spices etc nbe herbs come from tend to lean on the smaller breast sizes and I FEAR those of us over consuming these things when it's not natural to us might not give us results" . I also asked for girls with permanent results come forward! I openly acknowledged my curiosity.
Also ive been here for years and seen girls come and go and seen the cases where girls took PM and got breast lumps. They then disappeared off the boards. Now THATS a concern.
I've seen so many girls get negatively effected by herbs so I've no qualms about airing my opinion esp when I have under 20 years old pm'img me about taking herbs at such a tender young age. There are some very young people on these boards and influenced by us.
In the beginning I was all for herbs. I tried em all! Now I wish I hadn't but that's my journey.
You are all welcome to take herbs! But if someone asks I'm going to share the harm they have done to me and others here.
Enough said.
Wow. Okay. It's apparent that you completely missed my point and have obviously taken offense here. I really wish you would have at least tried to read what I've written out thoroughly before responding back to me so hastily and with such defense, because perhaps then you would have seen my viewpoint and also realized that I was trying to be helpful (and to some extent, I think I did answer your question). I wasn't attacking your personal opinions or convictions, I quite understand and even agree with why you feel the way you do and I said as much. It hurts and alarms me that you so easily missed my point and intention, but then again, it's not like you read and took time to consider my words. Regardless, I don't at all regret what I've posted, because as I've stated, I felt the need to point certain things out, and not just for your benefit but for anyone else who might be visiting this thread. It's important to point out and confront ethnocentric mindsets while also illuminating why it is detrimental to adopt those perceptions. You took it as an attack on you or your opinions on herbs, when clearly that was not my intention at all, FAR FROM IT, and I can't help that. Not even going to try.
I'm not saying that things you just pointed out aren't true, but they are inherently biased because they encompass only one side of the spectrum. I answered your question very thoughtfully and tried to offer a different viewpoint, not for the sake of debating, but to bring to awareness why cross-cultural beauty/breast examinations and making encompassing generalizations of cultures, is at best futile but at worst harmful. I know that was not your intention, of course, but it's basically what you're implying. But for the life of me, I don't understand if you weren't "genuinely curious" and "open" to hearing other perspectives, why even pose the questions in the first place? Why not just state your stance and leave it at that, especially if you were going to be so offended when someone offered an opinion that doesn't fully align with your perspective? If you would have made this a thread about warning people of the possible adverse side effects (both short term and long term) of taking herbs, and/or your own personal experiences and why you feel the way you do, I would have totally got behind that and agreed with you, and added to that discussion. But that's not what you did. So don't take this as me being an advocate for herbs, because I realize that they are not for everyone and that it can sometimes come with negative effects, and I myself have stated so many times. This was more so about the implications of cultures, and not whether I'm "For" of "Against" herbs.
Well, like I said, I'm not here to argue or debate with you. If you can't see that, so be it. For anyone else who would like to comment on what I've posted or add to it, I would still enjoy hearing unbiased opinions who are not so easily offended. I'm not going to let your anger, effect my positivity and what I was trying to offer to this thread.
Xoxo