[EllaC]

Thats way to long to read so il do so later! 

In.summary I asked a question. I did NOT insult nor try to insult anyone's culture/beauty or otherwise . These people on the boards who have known me for years know i do NOT get caught up in debates nor insult anyone. 
My question was " worldwide maps show the cultures where soy , spices etc nbe herbs  come from tend to lean on the smaller breast sizes and I FEAR those of us over consuming these things when it's not natural to us might not give us results" . I also asked for girls with permanent results come forward! I openly acknowledged my curiosity. 
Also ive been here for years and seen girls come and go and seen the cases where girls took PM and got breast lumps. They then  disappeared off the boards. Now THATS a concern.
I've seen so many girls get negatively effected by herbs so I've no qualms about airing my opinion esp when I have under 20 years old pm'img me about taking herbs at such a tender young age. There are some very young people on these boards and influenced by us. 
In the beginning I was all for herbs. I tried em all! Now I wish I hadn't but that's my journey. 
You are all welcome to take herbs! But if someone asks I'm going to share the harm they have done to me and others here. 
Enough said.

Wow. Okay. It's apparent that you completely missed my point and have obviously taken offense here. I really wish you would have at least tried to read what I've written out thoroughly before responding back to me so hastily and with such defense, because perhaps then you would have seen my viewpoint and also realized that I was trying to be helpful (and to some extent, I think I did answer your question). I wasn't attacking your personal opinions or convictions, I quite understand and even agree with why you feel the way you do and I said as much. It hurts and alarms me that you so easily missed my point and intention, but then again, it's not like you read and took time to consider my words. Regardless, I don't at all regret what I've posted, because as I've stated, I felt the need to point certain things out, and not just for your benefit but for anyone else who might be visiting this thread. You took it as an attack on you or your opinions on herbs, when clearly that was not my intention at all, FAR FROM IT, and I can't help that. Not even going to try.

I'm not saying that things you just pointed out aren't true, but they are inherently biased because they encompass only one side of the spectrum. I answered your question very thoughtfully and tried to offer a different viewpoint, not for the sake of debating. But for the life of me, I don't understand if you weren't "genuinely curious" and "open" to hearing other perspectives, why even pose the questions in the first place. Why not just state your stance and leave it at that, especially if you were going to be so offended when someone offered an opinion that doesn't fully align with your perspective.

Well, like I said, I'm not here to argue or debate with you. If you can't see that, so be it. For anyone else who would like to comment on what I've posted or add to it, I would still enjoy hearing unbiased opinions who are not so easily offended. I'm not going to let your anger, effect my positivity and what I was trying to offer to this thread.


Xoxo

Hi. 
I was a little worried this thread would be turned into more than it was meant too. But such is life and clearly you don't know me but that's ok.
It was a genuine innocent question, we are pushed over the Internet that fenugreek soy fennel PM etc is the key to growth and yet these links would indicate otherwise.. simple question? 
I believe so... 
I'm not from wealth and also a mixed race. There's no bias here. 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I make no judgements nor did I.... 

Zara I wish to follow your progress and in a few months see how you go! I look forward to seeing your gains. You have invested a lot of time into this... 
By all means post your permanent PM success stories, that's after all what I asked to see. 
I DO believe the right PM in the RIGHT doses is good! Hence why I have a truckload here at home   I also know that a huge percentage of PM is not authentic. Am I trying to persuade people not to take it? No... I'm urging caution.. nothing more. 
Ive taken high doses of fenugreek and fennel and I got a boost. Temporary as with many others. Always pays to air on the side of caution. 
No ill will here. I'm on a journey of my own as we all are.